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User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5576 posts, RR: 63
Posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1350 times:
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Hi all

I came across this information today, maybe old news to some.

London Heathrow Airport regulars should be careful in checking just which departure terminal to use in the future. British Airways is getting together with Heathrow Airport Ltd to make infrastructure changes which will allow T1 to handle some long haul flights. On completion some 25 daily short haul flights will move from T1 to T4 and about 10 long haul services will transfer to T1.

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Now, I am flying to/from Heathrow in Ausust so I wonder where I will be Big grin

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Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland


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User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1290 times:

Hi!

I haven't heard anything about that - but I'm rather interested: When will these changes occur? Which flights are likely to change terminals?

Looking forward to more infos

Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineMrjworth From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1281 times:

Terminal 4 is always very overcrowded, with most long haul flights having to hold for a stand to arise. Too many flights not enough gates.

I can understand why there are considering this move, but does Terminal 1 does have the space and the
facilities which Long Haul passengers would expect?

This would be a temp move untill Terminal 5 is completed, i would have thought.


User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1335 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1270 times:

I doubt that BA long-haul flights will move from T4 to T1 as I would have thought that the gates weren't large enough to cater for B747/B777. Anyone else got any more information?

User currently offlineAussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 780 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1265 times:


We have already been told that longhaul flights will be moving to T1 once the aircraft stands and jetties are completed. There has been no notification as to what flights will move. There is to be 10 new jetties to enable jumbos and 777s to operate from T1.


User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1335 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

I'd be surprised if it happens.

User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1259 times:

What about B767s? They can easily be accomodated at T1, right? After all, some of the European flights are operated by 767s. So which BA long-haul flights are currently operated by 767s and could be moved immediately? There have to be some...


Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2601 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1237 times:
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South African Airways have been flying from Terminal 1 at LHR for many years now, all their flights are operated by B747s - so there are obviously several T1 gates that can accomodate the B747. Air Alliance also served T1 with their B747s in the mid-1990s.

If British Airways are planning to move some long-haul services to T1, this will probably be dependant on modification of some gates to accomodate additional large-widebody aircraft...

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1335 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1234 times:

Aussiestu - I must agree that my first reply was slightly daft! I'll explain the rationale behind my initial replies.

Having looked at an aerial map of LHR, I would imagine that major amendments will be made to the Bravo cul-de-sac (?) if BA were to expand in T1. [Has anyone got specific details?]

My surprise comes from the fact, as Mrjworth hints at above, T1 as it stands, hasn't really got the floor-space/facilities to cater for B747/B777 passenger numbers and any changes would necessiate major construction works. This isn't to say it "won't happen" but I was under the impression that, in the short to medium term, BA were hell-bent on T5 so that they could merge short & long haul ops under one roof, so this "latest news" doesn't fit that well with BA objectives.

Also, wouldn't a long-haul split between T1 and T4 complicate BA ground ops even further? I know several long-haul flights operate out of T3, but a move to T1 means transferring support staff and equipment back from T4 to T1! Not exactly a cheap operation and loss of economies of scale. I hasten to add I could be very wrong!

Note to Ikraus; BA does operate B767's out of T1 already, eg on routes to Cyprus etc.


User currently offlineAussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 780 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

To G-IVP I can only go as to what we were told in our BA newspaper and company reports. The work has already started and while somebody else says that SAA already serve 747s to T1 thats the only gates that will accomodate them. BA is planning to move from 10+ longhaul flights to T1 and so will need many more gates. While it may not make sense to most people T5 is a long way off and this apparently makes sense in the interim. We already operate longhaul from T4 and T3 so why not T1 as well. I would think that the T3 operations will cease and be moved to T1 or T4 once all these longhaul gates have been added.

User currently offline747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

I think this is so that BA can increase their flights to the US. This arrangement will do, so they think, until a complete openskies takes effect and the new T5 is complete. Look for BA to transfer some USA flights to LHR from LGW and make a token offer to permit more US carriers access to LHR.

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