Ovrpowrd727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 96 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8257 times:
In light of the DHL pullout of the United States operations I raise the question; How many other airlines have needed to pullout of the U.S. in order to downsize their respective operations in recent time? My follow up question would be; How many of those airlines have continued international service from their countries around the world?
ex: VARIG (RG)
American 767 From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 3320 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8199 times:
Biman Bangladesh is another example. They used to fly the DC-10 aircraft to from BRU to JFK until the middle of 2005. They stopped flying to the US probably for two reasons:
-they did not meet the FAA standards
-Jet Airways got the slot in BRU for a India-BRU-JFK network.
For a while SAA was banned to fly to the United States for political reasons during the apartheid era but in 1991 when it was abolished SAA was allowed by the US government to return to the United States.
I'm not sure Malev still flies to the US. Weren't they talking about suspending long haul operations? I don't see them in JFK anymore.
For a few years Tarom stopped flying to the US when they grounded their 2 Airbus A310 aircraft, those returned to service about a year ago.
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EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7170 posts, RR: 45 Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8203 times:
JR - Aerocalifornia ceased flights to the U.S. if I am not mistaken. I am not sure if they are still flying domestically in Mexico or if they went out of business altogether.
PWM2TXLHopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1216 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8152 times:
Iran Air use to fly to the USA prior to 1980. The Tehran-New York City route was inaugurated in 1975, first with Boeing 707s making a stop-over in London Heathrow Airport, and shortly thereafter, the route was converted into a non-stop flight using Boeing 747SP
Iraqi Airways use to fly to New York in the 70's. First with 707's and then 747's until they were grounded by UN sanctions in 1990.
Nigerian Airways flew to the USA at some point as well.
I don't know for sure, but I'd suspect Cubana probably flew to the USA prior to Fidel coming to power?
Quoting American 767 (Reply 1): 'm not sure Malev still flies to the US. Weren't they talking about suspending long haul operations? I don't see them in JFK anymore.
They were, at least at the end of August. Their flight, using a 767-200, was at the gate next to my Air Berlin flight to DUS from JFK. The flight taxied out in front of us.
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8097 times:
Cedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2686 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8079 times:
MEA use to fly Beirut-New York between 1983 and 1985. Started on a twice weekly basis, it was increased to three times weekly for the Summer schedule. The 12:30 hour flight from Beirut to JFK was routed via Paris Orly using the Boeing 747-200. New york was suspended due to political issues
DUALRATED From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1001 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8043 times:
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4652 posts, RR: 27 Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 7931 times:
Quoting American 767 (Reply 1): Jet Airways got the slot in BRU for a India-BRU-JFK network.
What has Indian bilaterals rights with the USA got anything to do with Bangladesh? I suggest you take out a geo-political map and familiarise yourself because there is no better way to offend a Bangladeshi than to refer to him as an Indian!
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Warren84 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 68 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7845 times:
Quoting American 767 (Reply 1): I'm not sure Malev still flies to the US. Weren't they talking about suspending long haul operations? I don't see them in JFK anymore.
AirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 634 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7730 times:
Ghana Airways (BWI/JFK)
It looks like Air Greenland is no longer flying into BWI.
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Warren84 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 68 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7696 times:
Quoting Ovrpowrd727 (Thread starter): How many other airlines have needed to pullout of the U.S. in order to downsize their respective operations in recent time? My follow up question would be; How many of those airlines have continued international service from their countries around the world?
ex: VARIG (RG)
Quoting AirGabon (Reply 12): Air Afrique (RK) from Abidjan and Dakar to JFK with A300-600R and A310-300
Did Air Afrique pull out of the US to shore up their operations prior to their demise in 2002, or was it simply a matter of not flying anywhere at all, and therefore stopping flights to JFK?
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Adriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 493 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7597 times:
JAT used to fly to Chicago, New York, Los Angeles and maybe more..from Belgrade and Zagreb and some charters to other Yugoslav cities. Those days are gone.
UnitedTristar From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1240 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7591 times:
JK - Spanair use to serve IAD from MAD with a 767 they got from SAS
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FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7312 posts, RR: 61 Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7586 times:
Quoting Warren84 (Reply 14): Did Air Afrique pull out of the US to shore up their operations prior to their demise in 2002, or was it simply a matter of not flying anywhere at all, and therefore stopping flights to JFK?
Air Afrique did not pull out from JFK. They stopped serving the U.S when they stopped all their operations early 2002
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6172 posts, RR: 74 Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7553 times:
Garuda Indonesia...
Used to be DC10 DPS-BIK-HNL-LAX and MD11 DPS-HNL-LAX...
Dropped both in 1998 due to the Asian financial meltdown... and now... we're FAA Cat2 so we can't reopen...
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GECMD11 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7444 times:
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If I recall correctly, back in the 90s Luxair offered summer-only service to Europe from Newark-Liberty using wet-leased 767s from Citybird Airlines. Some say that their relatively low trans-Atlantic fares supplied many backpackers their first European adventure.
Ovrpowrd727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6785 times:
just to tack on to the VARIG example, they have resumed international operations to most of their original South American destinations and i believe although i am not sure they have resumed to serve Europe however effectively remain out of the U.S.
25 MSYtristar: Balkan Bulgarian used to fly SOF-JFK with 767-300's for a short time.[Edited 2008-11-11 09:31:42]
26 Embajador3: Viasa airlines (Venezuela) used to fly to, at least, MIA and JFK from CCS, using from A300s to DC-10s and B747s.
27 TXJim: Absolutely! You will find that a couple of the original Southwest pilots flew the Cubana Connies.
28 GARUDAROD: Technically it was CGK-DPS-BIK-HNL-LAX for the DC10 and CGK-DPS-HNL-LAX for the MD-11, and you forgot the B747 Combi that used to run as well. Ahh th
29 Drerx7: Viasa also served IAH with an A300/DC10 from MIA after arrival from CCS..
31 Viscount724: Several Canadian airlines that no longer exist once served the US. A few that come to mind: CP Air, Canadian Airlines, Pacific Western Airlines, Norda
32 AbleToFly: GL stopped their route to Baltimore after less than a year. The route was doomed before it even started I think. ///Abel
33 Viscount724: A few others: Swissair - routes taken over by LX after Swissair went bankrupt. Swiss World Airways - defunct GVA-based carrier briefly operated GVA-EW
34 AirFranceJFK: JAT used to serve JFK (and I believe ORD or LAX) from various points in the former Yugoslavia. Flights suspended after the breakout of war in the Balk
35 HAJFlyer: Zambia Airways used to fly from LUN to JFK with their DC 10-30 for a short period of time.
36 Rleiro: In Venezuela Viasa, Avensa, Servivensa Zuliana served the US. All of these are now bankrupt. Viasa served in different moments: LAX, IAH, MSY, MIA, MC
37 B747_A340: Aviateca served ORD, MIA, IAH, MSY, LAX and I think a couple more destinations from GUA Nica and Lanica served MIA from MGA Sahsa and Tan served MSY a
38 Highflier92660: http://miamiheritage.org/2008/08/10/cubana-airlines-miami-to-havana/ Here is a postcard of a Cubana 1049 Super Constellation on the Miami to Havana r
39 Viscount724: And a Cubana L1049G at JFK (then IDL) in 1958. In addition to the daily New York-Havana nonstop then, CU had 5 daily MIA-HAV flights using Vickers Vi
40 Aleksandar: Those three were scheduled services. Add Detroit and Cleveland as seasonal charters. They were flying mainly to Zagreb and Belgrade, but some flights
41 Aviateur: Garuda Tarom Balkan Bulgarian Iran Air Tarom was a long time visitor to JFK. Balkan never had service for very long. Iran Air pulled out not long afte
42 AirGabon: Also AOM from Paris-ORY to LAX (then continuing to Tahiti) with DC10 and even with A340-200 to LAX and to Noumea, New Caledonia as a complete transpac
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