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MSY To Sign Leases; New Concourse To Be Built  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 51
Posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

MSY is in the process of renegoiating leases with its air carriers as well as rental car agencies and concessionaires. Also mentioned in the article are future plans for the airport for 2009 and beyond, which includes expansion of Concourse D and a new Concourse E as well as a consolidated rental car facility and a rebuild of Concourses A and B.

http://neworleanscitybusiness.com/uptotheminute.cfm?recid=21472

Looks like the aviation director is thinking big, which is nice to see.


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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7502 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

So how about the new combined Delta moves into the new terminals  Wink


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3044 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 1):
So how about the new combined Delta moves into the new terminals

Let's put it this way. I doubt I'll ever see Delta leave D at MSY in my lifetime. They used to have the entire concourse to themselves for around 50 years until CO moved in. In fact when the concourse rebuild was completed in 1995, the local newspaper ran an article which made the front page of the paper entitled 'Delta's Big D".  Wink



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User currently offlineBRJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Link is not working for me tonight.

I'm from New Orleans originally, and all for some airport expansion at Moisant Field, but why the need for a new concourse? Is it really needed? Aren't there unused gates on Concourse C? And where would they build it?

I definitely agree that A & B should be rebuilt though, they don't match C & D at all!

But I say...do whatever it takes to get Delta 767's back to MSY!!  bouncy   bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2800 times:



Quoting BRJ (Reply 3):
but why the need for a new concourse? Is it really needed? Aren't there unused gates on Concourse C? And where would they build it?

I agree, is MSY currently operating at max capacity? I would love to see the airport expand, but is there enough demand for this expansion. And where would it be built...in that area right west of Concourse D???

Also, what ever happened to that proposed new runway that would have been in St. Charles Parish, west of runway 10 (by the I-310)?



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2714 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
and a rebuild of Concourses A and B.

Was anything about rebuilding them stated?
All it said was "replace", which could very likely be done by an expanded D and a new E.

Quoting BRJ (Reply 3):
And where would they build it?

Though everyone and their mother would love to see it built where the GenAv stand currently sits, residential and transportational issues will probably put a hitch in any such plans.

Most models, all the way up until Katrina, depicted E as a boomerang-shaped concourse to the immediate west (slightly northwest) of D.

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 4):
is MSY currently operating at max capacity?

Nowhere near it.

Half-dozen gates empty in B, two or three gates unused in A, and Int'l Arrival + Common Use gates sit idle most of the day in C. TACA, Air Canada, USAirways-west, Frontier, and Midwest have not returned to claim their gates since the storm.

The only concourse with 100% occupancy is D, and even then, the carriers there could squeeze in higher utility if they truly desired. Plenty of remote stands available for that concourse as well.

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 4):
Also, what ever happened to that proposed new runway that would have been in St. Charles Parish, west of runway 10

Got quiet during all the talk of the mega-cargo airport proposal for Iberville/Ascension/St.James parishes... and hasn't been heard about at all since Katrina.

Sorta makes sense though-- who could really talk about runway addition for an airport that at one time seemed like it was only going to do 1/3 of its typical annual traffic flows, in the months following the storm. We're still about 2M-2.5M annual pax below 2004 levels.


User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 705 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

It sounds like they are still thinking about designing the airport as planned if you go by the model that is/was in the Main lobby down by Whitney Bank. Its been a long time coming. I just cannot remember if the USPS will have to move their facility.

I could not help notice that the article states that A and B concourses cannot handle aircraft larger than a 737. Well when I worked on Concouse A when at US we had 757's and A321 scheduled regularly and handled them with no problem. Also NW operated 757's on A Con. Concourse B when I worked for Piedmont I personally worked a PanAm 747 and a World Airways DC10. Also CO regularly worked 752 & 753 on B and AA and National had DC10's.

Anyhow I am glad to see this plan finally coming together.

MD


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2644 times:



Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 6):
the model that is/was in the Main lobby down by Whitney Bank

Still there

Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 6):
I could not help notice that the article states that A and B concourses cannot handle aircraft larger than a 737. Well when I worked on Concouse A when at US we had 757's and A321 scheduled regularly and handled them with no problem. Also NW operated 757's on A Con. Concourse B when I worked for Piedmont I personally worked a PanAm 747 and a World Airways DC10. Also CO regularly worked 752 & 753 on B and AA and National had DC10's.

Agreed, that's not true.

I recall seeing Britannia put a 762ER into B as well once, as it'd already cleared customs elsewhere. The aircraft had no problem maneuvering in right next to WN737s.


User currently offlineBRJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2568 times:



Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 7):
I could not help notice that the article states that A and B concourses cannot handle aircraft larger than a 737. Well when I worked on Concouse A when at US we had 757's and A321 scheduled regularly and handled them with no problem. Also NW operated 757's on A Con. Concourse B when I worked for Piedmont I personally worked a PanAm 747 and a World Airways DC10. Also CO regularly worked 752 & 753 on B and AA and National had DC10's.

Continental used to bring in the A300s to Concourse B as well in the mid 90s...I flew it once on a late night flight from IAH. At one time, they were overnighting (2) A300s at MSY.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2548 times:



Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 6):
I could not help notice that the article states that A and B concourses cannot handle aircraft larger than a 737. Well when I worked on Concouse A when at US we had 757's and A321 scheduled regularly and handled them with no problem. Also NW operated 757's on A Con. Concourse B when I worked for Piedmont I personally worked a PanAm 747 and a World Airways DC10. Also CO regularly worked 752 & 753 on B and AA and National had DC10's.

Yeah the article was definetely off on that one. I boarded an AA DC10 from B-4 in 1992. Also even today it's not true because you still see US 321's on A from time to time.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 5):
All it said was "replace", which could very likely be done by an expanded D and a new E

I wouldn't mine seeing A being shut down and moving US to B.

Quoting BRJ (Reply 3):
But I say...do whatever it takes to get Delta 767's back to MSY!!

I miss those days. Perhaps we'll see them again if DL starts up MSY-CDG.



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User currently offlineDonInDC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

Hey - I'm new here after about a 4 year absence.

Trying to patch the existing 1959-era terminal is like putting lipstick on a pig. For many travelers, their first impression of a city is the airport. I’m envious of Indianapolis. They had an old broken-down terminal just like MSY, but now they’ve built and moved into a sleek, modern and impressive new facility. That’s what needs to happen at MSY, even if it has to be built in stages to overlap on the site of the current terminal. I think it could be done similar to how MDW and PVD were rebuilt on existing sites. No matter how much you refurbish or even rebuild the concourses, you’re still left with an outdated design, inefficient multiple security checkpoints, inefficient placement of airport concessions, a dank and inadequate baggage claim area with low claustrophobic ceilings, and a terrible exterior roadway system that backs up during peak arrival times, and traffic that often blocks the departures ramp. Planning for a new terminal should have occurred years ago and it should already be built. MSY is way behind the curve, and it’s still not even on the drawing board. Sad.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2435 times:



Quoting DonInDC (Reply 10):
That’s what needs to happen at MSY, even if it has to be built in stages to overlap on the site of the current terminal. I think it could be done similar to how MDW and PVD were rebuilt on existing sites. No matter how much you refurbish or even rebuild the concourses, you’re still left with an outdated design, inefficient multiple security checkpoints, inefficient placement of airport concessions, a dank and inadequate baggage claim area with low claustrophobic ceilings, and a terrible exterior roadway system that backs up during peak arrival times, and traffic that often blocks the departures ramp. Planning for a new terminal should have occurred years ago and it should already be built. MSY is way behind the curve, and it’s still not even on the drawing board. Sad.

Can feel ya on that.

Before Katrina... Nagin wanted to shut down MSY altogether and create an all-new airport, with parallel runways and the IATA code "JZY", in Eastern NOLA.

At the same time, there was also talk of wanting to create an all-new airport (not just runway) in the St.Charles estuary just to the west of where MSY sits. That stalled when environmentalists (conveniently) "discovered" a rare crab species that doesn't appear to exist anywhere else in the state  Yeah sure

Then, there was always the much less popular proposal of putting a pax terminal in the newly proposed superairport in Iberville/Ascension... but considering that that airport would be centered in an area with less than a 20,000person population, and about 45min from MSY and 30min from BTR.... no way that'd ever fly without first razing both existing airports and creating highspeed transport to and from the new hub. ....that sorta thinking, in Louisiana? Ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

Also, would like to add:
I sincerely hope whoever is planning these concourses would have enough foresight to build them with acceptably sufficient space for both retail (particularly, popular food options) and airline lounges.

It's a friggin' shame that CO and AA don't have lounges here at MSY, considering the relative traffic they bring.


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