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Air Europa To Launch MIA-TFN  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10812 times:

Spanish airline Air Europa will launch weekly non-stop service between Miami and the Canary Islands in March 2009, operated with an A330:

http://www.miamiherald.com/business/breaking-news/story/771615.html

This will be the second European carrier to launch Miami services in March 2009, as CSA Czech is planning on launching weekly service to Prague the same month.

Miami has the largest Canary Island ex-pat community in North America.

Air Europa is the fifth new airline at MIA since August 2008, joining SLM Surinam Airways (17 August 2008), Insel Air (21 November 2008), Aero Galapagos (7 December 2008), and CSA Czech (March 2009).

[Edited 2008-11-14 15:09:24]


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10801 times:
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Nice, this flight will be packed; so many people here in MIA trace their routes back to the Canaries.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10793 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 1):
Nice, this flight will be packed; so many people here in MIA trace their routes back to the Canaries.

Indeed, including part of my family. Canarians are also like to fly home often, and Air Europa's high density, leisure-configured A330s are good for the job.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10723 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):

That's wonderful, I've never been to the Canaries, sounds like a great place to explore. Do you know how long the flight time from MIA to TFN is?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10700 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 3):
Do you know how long the flight time from MIA to TFN is?

Around 7h30m.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10681 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 4):

Thanks, that's not that long at all. So many places to go from MIA, its incredible!


User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10647 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 5):

Thanks, that's not that long at all. So many places to go from MIA, its incredible!

Yup. I'm glad it is one of my home airports. Also a relatively cheap market compared to other major hub cities!

I'll be trying that one out for sure.

Now if only someone could add MIA-MXP (cough! AA), the European puzzle would be complete, right SCL767!  Wink


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10635 times:
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Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 6):
Now if only someone could add MIA-MXP (cough! AA), the European puzzle would be complete, right SCL767! Wink

Don't get me started on MIAAMI-MILAAN!!!


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10635 times:

Barcelona, Milan and Moscow are the three big pieces missing from MIA.


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User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10546 times:

Once a week only though? What type of market are they targeting?

I'm surprised a nonstop MIA-BCN flight wasn't launched first?

Funny how the article also mentions more then 300,000 descendants from the Canary Islands live in Florida. I wonder if they are referring to the 280,000 or so Cubans that claim to have Canarian ancestry, but have closer ties to Cuba then they do to the Canaries? My family (for instance) are Cuban born, but their "great" grandparents descended from the Canarys to Cuba back in the 1800's. Although our family descended from there, we have absolutely no ties to the Canarys since the last 3 generations were born in Cuba and now starting with me, the USA. I understand this isn't the case for everyone.

I think Venezuelans would have stronger ties to the Canaries then most Cubans in Miami considering there is nonstop CCS-TFN service and maybe they want to compliment or target the Venezuelan community living in Miami for this flight perhaps?

Anywho, I'm certainly glad that MIA now has another nonstop European destination from its footsteps and wish the flight a success.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10529 times:

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 9):
Once a week only though? What type of market are they targeting?

VFR. The Canary Islands have also long sought this flight to market the Canary Islands to American tourists, so I fully expect some sort of tourism campaign.

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 9):
Funny how the article also mentions more then 300,000 descendants from the Canary Islands live in Florida. I wonder if they are referring to the 280,000 or so Cubans that claim to have Canarian ancestry, but have closer ties to Cuba then they do to the Canaries?

The actual immigrant community of Canarians who actually were born in the Canaries and moved to Miami is around 35,000, IIRC. It's the third largest direct diaspora from Europe in Miami after Russia and Italy. Though there are also many who, like you said, trace their ancestry to Cuba, but there are a significant number who moved to Venezuela in the 80's and 90's, and then moved to Miami in the 00's.

There are some business ties between Miami and the Canaries, although the flight is not targeting that market. The ties are mainly in exports, and the Canary government's business council, PROEXCA, has it's North American headquarters in Coral Gables.

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 9):
considering there is nonstop CCS-TFN service

No, there is not. Both Iberia and Santa Barbara have discontinued CCS-TFN. Though, just like with the MIA flights, those services were 1x weekly.

[Edited 2008-11-14 17:14:47]


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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10520 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 1):
Nice, this flight will be packed; so many people here in MIA trace their routes back to the Canaries.

Very true, however most Latin Americans (Mainly Cuban, Venezuelan, and Puerto Rican) have lost most ties with their ancestral home land. The last wave were those fleeing Franco, but most returned to the Canaries post Franco.

Having said that, I still think the flight will do great. Funneling passengers to all parts of Latin America and the U.S..



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10510 times:



Quoting AA767400 (Reply 11):
Very true, however most Latin Americans (Mainly Cuban, Venezuelan, and Puerto Rican) have lost most ties with their ancestral home land. The last wave were those fleeing Franco, but most returned to the Canaries post Franco.

Venezuelan Canarians, however, still maintain very, very close ties to the Canary Islands, and in the mid-2000's, many of them fled Venezuela and now live in South Florida or, more specifically, Doral.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10500 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):

Yep, and they love to travel.


User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10476 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
VFR. The Canary Islands have also long sought this flight to market the Canary Islands to American tourists, so I fully expect some sort of tourism campaign.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
No, there is not. Both Iberia and Santa Barbara have discontinued CCS-TFN. Though, just like with the MIA flights, those services were 1x weekly.

Thank you for the information.

I'm surprised Delta hasn't ventured into the Canarys yet...LOL.

At first I thought this would be the first flight ever between the US and the Canary Islands, but PanAm did serve the island back in its days. In fact, it was also involved in a terrible tragedy with a KLM 747 as I'm sure many of you know.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10469 times:



Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 14):
At first I thought this would be the first flight ever between the US and the Canary Islands, but PanAm did serve the island back in its days. In fact, it was also involved in a terrible tragedy with a KLM 747 as I'm sure many of you know.

That involved a charter flight. However, I do believe that Pan Am and TWA offered scheduled service to the Canary Islands at some point from New York and/or Boston. I believe Iberia has also flown between New York and the Canary Islands as well.

However, I think this is the first scheduled U.S.-Canary Islands route since at least the 1980s.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10451 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
However, I think this is the first scheduled U.S.-Canary Islands route since at least the 1980s.

I think so, PA operated seasonal charters from JFK, (along with TW). On a side note, PA maintained scheduled JFK-SMA-LIS service for a while.


User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10377 times:

Very nice news!

when is IB suppose to start BCN-MIA nonstop as reported earlier?

any chance AA will challenge this new TFN route with a 752?



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10348 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 3):
That's wonderful, I've never been to the Canaries, sounds like a great place to explore.

Being from Northern-Europe the Canary Islands and Teneriffe especially (with Gran Canaria) first sounds VERY touristic, the place to meet Germans, British and Nordics  Wink Something like Acapulco for Americans? The Canaries still are the number one winter holiday destination for Finns, been there several times and enjoyed the sun therapy ,)

And yes, the Canaries are beautiful, great climate and some great nature behind the tourist ghettos.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 1):
Nice, this flight will be packed; so many people here in MIA trace their routes back to the Canaries.

Thats something I didn't know.


User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2447 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10319 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Miami has the largest Canary Island ex-pat community in North America.

I wouldn't have imagine that the Canary Islands has a big ex-pat community here in South Florida. Last week I went to the Spanish Consulate in Coral Gables and talking to the guy in charge of "Citizen Registration" (Spanish living abroad) he said that no particular "Provincia" had an outstanding number of people living here in South Florida...

Anyway, if fares are competitive, I might try this flight one way, because a 1x week is not quite appealing...


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10234 times:



Quoting MIASkies (Reply 17):
any chance AA will challenge this new TFN route with a 752?

Doubtful, as always....

though it's within 752 range from both JFK and ATL:
talk about Widget-fodder!  Wink


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10096 times:

Why TFN ?

I thought they would chose rather TFS or even LPA ...

Though it should be mostly O/D traffic, does UX plan also to set the schedule of this new flight to offer connecions to/from its mainand Europe destinations ?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10056 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 21):
Why TFN ?

I thought they would chose rather TFS or even LPA ...

Actually, I might jumped the gun on that, because the article doesn't say which airport, but TFN, as the most important airport in the region, makes the most sense.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 21):

Though it should be mostly O/D traffic, does UX plan also to set the schedule of this new flight to offer connecions to/from its mainand Europe destinations ?

As it will be their only long-haul flight from the Canary Islands, I think it's fair to make the assumption that it will be routed MAD-TFN-MIA.



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User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10019 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
Both Iberia and Santa Barbara have discontinued CCS-TFN.

S3 discontinued MAD but for now keeps TFN with Icelandair ETOPS 752, if at the end CCS-TFN ends unserved, UX will step in.

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 11):
The last wave were those fleeing Franco, but most returned to the Canaries post Franco.

Can't tell you about Cuba or Puerto Rico, but in Venezuela very few of the now elders who fled Franco have gone back to Spain as they are well settled in Venezuela, most of venezuelans living in the Canaries now are the sons and grandsons of them fleeing Chavez and enjoying the benefits of dual citizenship.



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9948 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22):
TFN, as the most important airport in the region, makes the most sense.

Not exactely ...

South Airport (Reina Sofia, TFS) is by far the busiest Tenerife airport. TFS takes most of the incoming international tourist traffic. It has a longer main runway and plans for a second runway, running parallel with the existing one, have been agreed.
Also the weather conditions at TFS are often better than in TFN.

North Airport TFN (Los Rodeos) is used primarily for domestic flights to mainland Spain and the other Canary islands. Maybe that's why they chose TFN ...


25 Post contains links IBERIA747 : Just for the record. Total passengers in 2007: LPA: 10354903 TFS: 8639341 TFN: 4125131 Traffic from January to October 2008: LPA: 8438939 TFS: 690595
26 Acelanzarote : Wonder if Air Europa will set up a code share with Islas Airways to allow connections to/from the other islands into the flight, Binter seem tied in w
27 Boeing74741R : The American tourists will get a shock once they head to the resort towns on the south coast and see the amount of British "pubs" and mini-markets se
28 AA767400 : Very true. As well as the Italian, Portuguese, and German descendants enjoying dual citizenship from their respective countries. I think the flight w
29 FlySSC : MIA-TFN is 6270 km / 3896 mi About similar distance to BCN-JFK, AMS-IAD, MXP-BOS, FRA-YYZ, SYD-SIN, SCL-HAV. TFN-MIA should be around 8 hours while t
30 ZRH : I am wondering why tourists from Florida should go to the Canary Islands. What do they have FL does not have? It is nice to go there from Europe but
31 Post contains images FlySSC : What do they have ???    What you say is funny ! It's like saying "why people who live in Paris would go to visit Venice or Rome, after all, they a
32 MAH4546 : The same reasons Floridians flock to the Caribbean, Cartagena, Punta del Este, Uruguay, and Salvador, Brazil. Culture and location can't be duplicate
33 ZRH : Yes, I know Florida and the Canaries and from a tourist view I prefere Florida by fare. I think the Canaries are very spectacular.
34 UPPERDECKFAN : Where does the link says that it will be TFN instead of TFS? BTW, since the sources aren't from a UX spokesperson but gov't officials (Canaries&Miami
35 BBADXB : Can´t believe I´m reading this news. While I´m very happy to read about it, I hope it works. Binter couldn´t make Milan or Paris work; I hope UX c
36 Post contains links MAH4546 : MIA held a press conference today regarding the new route, with officials from the Canaries on hand. http://www.elnuevoherald.com/101/story/325394.htm
37 SCL767 : Nice article, interesting to note that over half a million residents here in South Florida trace their routes back to the Canaries.
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