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Eastern Airlines Making A Come Back For 2009?  
User currently offlineWepaMan From Puerto Rico, joined Nov 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 10620 times:

This was intresting reading while I was getting some info about EAL... Can some one inform me a bit more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines

Wepa


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User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 10376 times:

I doubt any come backs in 2009. I doubt we will finish 2009 with the airlines we have today.


I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 10314 times:

This rumor has been around for awhile. IMO aint gonna happen, especially now with this economy.

User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 10289 times:

Coming back to operate in MIA - I just don't know if that is a good idea. AA is large. FLL is a large base for low cost carriers. If you fly as an airline out of MIA you have to match some fares from airports nearby. I'm sure they could have a pretty good operation but I wouldn't make it my primary hub. I think the secondary cities will make come backs for smaller airline cities.


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User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 10084 times:

Hes already working on one down there now,,but wants another lcc carrier,,,and learned the hard way as and exec.The word is neelman of old jet blue will run it in conjuntion with a latin american company, How did that get in wiki so fast i dont think hes 100 percent sure on it yet from what i hear and he has to get the bugs out of the other airline first.


i can see for 80 miles
User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 10049 times:



Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 1):
I doubt any come backs in 2009. I doubt we will finish 2009 with the airlines we have today.

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Best to let some that have passed stay passed. As has been mentioned, resurrection of Eastern has been discussed pretty much since the day they stopped flying. With airlines screaming about over capacity in '09 already, the last thing we need is more loss making airlines. Sorry, not gonna happen.


User currently offlineStratoduck From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9674 times:

Google listed a mailing address:

Eastern Airlines

1221 Brickell Ave
Miami, FL 33131
(305) 536-2246


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9597 times:

Source: wikipedia

Need I say more?



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User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9581 times:



Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 7):
Source: wikipedia

Need I say more?

Amen. While it may contain some good info on certain subjects, when it comes to the airline industry, it is notorious for being out of date or just flat out wrong. I would never use it as a credible source for airline information unless is was history only - even then I might be a little suspect.


User currently offlineRW170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9501 times:



Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 7):
Source: wikipedia

Need I say more?

The Wikipedia article is just referencing this news article:

http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2008/04/14/story1.html



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User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3277 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8659 times:

Air Tran is actually the Eastern Airlines of the 21st Century.


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User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8273 times:



Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 10):
Air Tran is actually the Eastern Airlines of the 21st Century.

How's that?

I see where AirTran flies some of the same Domestic routes, but other than that?



I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3138 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8159 times:



Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 4):
How did that get in wiki so fast

How long does it take to edit a Wiki? Minutes. May well have been written by the person heading the start-up, or maybe one of us in A.net who reads the Miami Herald!

Quoting TN757Flyer (Reply 5):
With airlines screaming about over capacity in '09 already

I still think it's a myth. Passenger demand is off this year, but won't be for long. Where there is demand, comsumers would prefer to have more choices rather than fewer. I think there is a bit much redundancy in some areas (NYC-Chicago?, NYC-Florida?), but for every consolidation, there is a subsequent blooming of new entrants. Let 'em bloom.

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 3):
Coming back to operate in MIA - I just don't know if that is a good idea. AA is large. FLL is a large base for low cost carriers. If you fly as an airline out of MIA you have to match some fares from airports nearby. I'm sure they could have a pretty good operation but I wouldn't make it my primary hub. I think the secondary cities will make come backs for smaller airline cities.

I would agree. They could attempt focusing on places like Tampa or RDU. Does it have to be East Coast? If not, BNA, PIT, or soon to be quiter CVG or CLE could be an option (and better hubs for the purposes of connecting). It doesn't have to be a large airline, and may find it better to occupy a niche. And if WN is a problem, capture smaller markets with turboprops or larger regional jets, depending on the size of the city and distance. Or try domestic widebodies.

I think many of the airlines (and some of you) are too rigid and miss opportunities.
I think a lot of things can work if done right (and travel picks up a bit, an important assumption... so, no, not exactly right now). Growth is important for this industry. Let it happen, and be willing to let it happen outside of the "top 6".

-Rampart


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16870 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8090 times:

I hope not, to me there will only be one Eastern Airlines. They were my favorite airline and started my love with aviation, my first flights were 1976 EWR-ATL-MCO, MCO-JFK.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8072 times:

Call it Eastern, Pan Am, National, Piedmont, America West, Mickey Mouse, Hooters, Carnival, Daffy Duck, no one has been able to revive an old airline successfully, and nowhere close to the level that they were previously. No one could compete against the current airlines and their FF miles, their networks, their routes, their alliances, nothing.
We know about Southwest, we know about Air Tran, we know about Virgin, but they don't come close to being the type of airlines that used to operate in years past.
Why do we keep bringing this topic up?
As far as the listed address, it's not uncommon for someone to buy the rights to a name and list a business address for this purpose.

FLY2LIM



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13602 posts, RR: 61
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7995 times:
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Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):
I hope not, to me there will only be one Eastern... They were my favorite airline

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User currently offlineDUALRATED From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1001 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7890 times:



Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
I hope not, to me there will only be one Eastern... They were my favorite airline


Eastern was the best, The Great Silver Fleet.

Quoting FLY2LIM (Reply 14):
Call it Eastern, Pan Am, National, Piedmont, America West, Mickey Mouse, Hooters, Carnival, Daffy Duck, no one has been able to revive an old airline successfully,

Ever hear of Frontier?



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User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3138 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7743 times:



Quoting DUALRATED (Reply 16):
Ever hear of Frontier?

 checkmark  Heck, even Southwest is a recyled name.

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/pc.htm

And Republic? (not the same airline at all, but the name's been re-used for sure)

-Rampart


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 44
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7570 times:

Wasn't it.... Eastern Air Lines?


Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineRW170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7466 times:



Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 18):
Wasn't it.... Eastern Air Lines?

Yes. And of course Delta Air Lines. Are there any other airlines that spell it Air Lines the way these two did?



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User currently offlineRedTailDTW From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 754 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7145 times:



Quoting RW170 (Reply 19):
Yes. And of course Delta Air Lines. Are there any other airlines that spell it Air Lines the way these two did?

I think United may have done it as United Air Lines at one time, correct me if I am wrong...


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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6681 times:

I am all for it - I sincerely hope Eastern will make a come back!


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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6459 times:



Quoting RedTailDTW (Reply 20):
Quoting RW170 (Reply 19):
Yes. And of course Delta Air Lines. Are there any other airlines that spell it Air Lines the way these two did?

I think United may have done it as United Air Lines at one time, correct me if I am wrong...

I can't correct either one because you are both correct. A few of us have the scheds to prove it.
safe



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25332 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6379 times:



Quoting RedTailDTW (Reply 20):
Quoting RW170 (Reply 19):
Yes. And of course Delta Air Lines. Are there any other airlines that spell it Air Lines the way these two did?

I think United may have done it as United Air Lines at one time, correct me if I am wrong...

UA changed their marketing name to "Airlines" some years ago but their legal corporate name is still United Air Lines, Inc.


User currently offlineDavidkunzVIE From Austria, joined Mar 2007, 431 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6108 times:

I think it's pathetic to abuse the legacy carriers' brands a reputations like that. Look at what has become of PA.


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