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Come To Jamaica And Feel Alright..Thread #4  
User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 18358 times:
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One Love, One Heart..Come to Jamaica and Feel Alright..

Welcome to Jamaica the third largest island of the Caribben and the birthplace of Bob Marley . A place that is both unique and familiar with beaches that strecth "clear blue" forever and the seemingly endless hours of warm Caribbean sunshine. Come to Jamaica and Feel Alright...The Land of Wood, Water and Sunshine....The time has come for your winter vacation; look no further, come to the place of tranquility, where crystal blue waters relaxes your soul while being pampered with the ultimate Jamaican hospitality..

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Welcome to our 4th Thread..Congratulations, we have completed another leg..Kudos for your support and big up to all 'Yardies"...As always, a special thanks to our contributing Caricom members....

This thread will be dedicated to our main industy, Tourism..A special thanks for all those involved in making Jamaica #1...

The Land



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The People






The Experience
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The National Airline.


Updates..

JM March ,2009 divestment on schedule..
BA has requested subsidy to serve the LGW-KIN route...Mettings will be held with BA, JTB and Spanish Investors..
DL has threatened to withdraw it's NW services....Requests guarantees..
JTB Board has resigned...
Increased European and Canadian carriers for the winter..
VS in talks to upgrade MBJ flights.....
TUI hosted Jamaican fam trip..
DOT stats shows improvements in lfs...The company has a high rasm of .815.


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User currently offlineMcmurdomech From Argentina, joined May 2008, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 18351 times:

Thread looks like advertizing to me.

User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 18338 times:



Quoting Mcmurdomech (Reply 1):

Perhaps it is



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User currently offlineDubliftment From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 18287 times:

hi folks,

I went to Jamaica both in summer of 1998 and 1999. I have very nice memories about that (staying mainly around Port Antonio and Winnifred Beach), except for one thing. I went with BA and I can't figure out what equipment they were using at the time - 767 or 777? I went from LGW (It might have been LHR as well) to KIN. any idea?

salut
dubliftment


User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 18276 times:

Great Photos. Jamaica is indeed beautiful.

Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):
BA has requested subsidy to serve the LGW-KIN route...Mettings will be held with BA, JTB and Spanish Investors..

I more see Ed gravitating towards giving them a subsidy for LGW-MBJ if they do get one. To facilitate connections from Europe as that is high on their agenda.

Quoting Mcmurdomech (Reply 1):
Thread looks like advertizing to me.

Well the name JAMAICA alone advertises itself.



greenheart
User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 18270 times:



Quoting Dubliftment (Reply 3):



Quoting Dubliftment (Reply 3):
I went with BA and I can't figure out what equipment they were using at the time - 767 or 777? I went from LGW (It might have been LHR as well) to KIN. any idea?


I think at the time of your visits BA used DC10s on LGW-KIN. They currently use B772 3x weekly.



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 18263 times:

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 2):
I went with BA and I can't figure out what equipment they were using at the time - 767 or 777? I went from LGW (It might have been LHR as well) to KIN. any idea?

It was LGW. DC10 as far as I remember.

[Edited 2008-11-19 10:00:08]


greenheart
User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 18263 times:
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Intl arrivals for Tuesday Nov 18, 2009

LM A332 MXP
AC A319 YYZ
WS 73G YYZ
VS B744 LGW
TOM B763 LGW
TOM B763 BHX
TCX A306 LGW via YQX
SWG B73W YYZ
TS A332 YVR....Flight time of 7.04 mins...

NW flight to MEM went tech..Flight was ferried to MEM this morning.....


JM News from Toronto...

Mike Henry was at a meeting in Toronto..He mentioned the following:

The GOJ intends to absorb JM's debt...They are still in talks with Air China....Several other investors have shown interest...
The GOJ will not give a license to no entity to operate as a national carrier until JM is divested.....( A big obstacle for Airone)
The GOJ is reclaiming London..They have given into the demands of the Jamaicans in the UK and plans are in place to return by summer 2010....Discussions will be held with VS...
By making the LHR slots apart of the overall package, JM will be far more attractive...
Returning to London will boost JM's promotion as they plan to be the carrier of the Jamaican Olympic Team...However, alot of groundwork is needed a they don't want to end up with a money loosing route..
YYZ will see a second daily flight..The A321 is limited in seats...They were looking at a larger aircraft, but instead opted for a second flight which they claim will arrive in KIN to connect to the EC..Mrs Williams will elaborate on what new routes JM will open..
The EC has become a money maker and they are focusing on that market....

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 5):
I think at the time of your visits BA used DC10s on LGW-KIN. They currently use B772 3x weekly.

Correct...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 4):
Great Photos. Jamaica is indeed beautiful.

I agree...



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 18241 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
JM News from Toronto...

Interesting.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
They were looking at a larger aircraft, but instead opted for a second flight which they claim will arrive in KIN to connect to the EC

And also having a choice of flight times will be convenient for passengers. Are they still planning YYZ-MBJ ?

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
Returning to London

LHR ?



greenheart
User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 18235 times:

Indeed - Jamaica is very beautiful. I have visited 4 times, the last being in 2000 when I flew with JM from POS. I covered that trip in a trip report on that forum - it was my first such report in the forum just after it opened that year.

Insofar as a JM return to LHR is concerned, I hope that it works out for them. They may however have to start with LGW - I do not see anybody giving up LHR slots to them - not even VS, although a VS tie-in would be excellent for marketing. If they can tie-in with the major travel agents to offer holiday seats as well as obviously caterig for the home crowd they can pull it off.

We're jammin...

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineDubliftment From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 18226 times:



Quoting LimaMike (Reply 5):
at the time of your visits BA used DC10s

puh... actually the only thing I'm almost sure about is that it was a twin-jet.


User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 18222 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
YYZ will see a second daily flight..The A321 is limited in seats...They were looking at a larger aircraft, but instead opted for a second flight which they claim will arrive in KIN to connect to the EC..Mrs Williams will elaborate on what new routes JM will open..
The EC has become a money maker and they are focusing on that market....

I always wondered why JM had not considered increasing frequencies to YYZ. Travelled KIN-YYZ-KIN two weeks ago and on the return YYZ-KIN the flight was full to capacity...and it took me four days to get my luggage! Additionally, they haul a lot of cargo on that route as well. The 321s always seem to be struggling to do the early-morning climb out of KIN.

In regards to a second daily flight timed to allow connections to the Eastern Caribbean, this seems as if it would require an evening KIN departure, layover in YYZ, then a morning departure back to KIN. However, given the attempts at keeping route costs minimal, I thought there was a drive to keep layovers to a minimun. For example the current KIN-YYZ-KIN rotation eliminates the need for the aircraft to remain overnight plus allow for a better utilization of the aircraft as it can then be deployed elsewhere, (as with KIN-YYZ-KIN-JFK).

Perhaps JM is trying to make the first strike in an apparent void in services between YYZ and BGI/GND but especially GND, granted it seems JM 's proposed service isnt non-stop.



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User currently offlineJM079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 18213 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
JM News from Toronto...

Mike Henry was at a meeting in Toronto..He mentioned the following:

The GOJ intends to absorb JM's debt...They are still in talks with Air China....Several other investors have shown interest...
The GOJ will not give a license to no entity to operate as a national carrier until JM is divested.....( A big obstacle for Airone)
The GOJ is reclaiming London..They have given into the demands of the Jamaicans in the UK and plans are in place to return by summer 2010....Discussions will be held with VS...
By making the LHR slots apart of the overall package, JM will be far more attractive...
Returning to London will boost JM's promotion as they plan to be the carrier of the Jamaican Olympic Team...However, alot of groundwork is needed a they don't want to end up with a money loosing route..
YYZ will see a second daily flight..The A321 is limited in seats...They were looking at a larger aircraft, but instead opted for a second flight which they claim will arrive in KIN to connect to the EC..Mrs Williams will elaborate on what new routes JM will open..
The EC has become a money maker and they are focusing on that market....

The GOJ does not want to hamstring the divestment of JM and as such will make the carrier an attractive investment. The debt will be absorbed by GOJ but will not be apart of the national debt. I understand that a technical team is to established to renegotiate JM debt.
The IFC is apart of that move to shift the debt.

The carrier will be in a position to strenghtened its market share and will now focus on its core market which includes the UK that has a heavy VFR.

The drive is to get the carrier back by summer of 2010 in time for the summer games. JM will use the olympic as a marketing tool. It will be the carrier for the Jamaica Olympic and with the incredible performance of our national team in China you can expect them to make much of this.

As for the YYZ market it was JM that opt out of the code share with AC as Jm wanted to maximise on this opportunity and feel that this market has great potential for growth.

The information session got an opporunity of hearing about what JM will be doing for the eastern caribbean. Barbados is about to enjoy a huge increase from JM


User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 18209 times:



Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
And also having a choice of flight times will be convenient for passengers. Are they still planning YYZ-MBJ ?

It might actually be a good idea to route the new flight YYZ-MBJ-KIN. It would be a good compliment to the existing YYZ-KIN. Plus, given that JM is also aiming at connections to the Eastern Caribbean with this extra service, this routing would make connections easier. The GND service currently operates out of MBJ to allow easier connections so a YYZ-MBJ routing would benefit from that. But perhaps JM would also need to move BGI back to MBJ?



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User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 18182 times:

I am not sure how they intend to get back to LHR since no airline is willing to give up slots and even if they do they would cost a great deal of money to tha Tax payers. LGW is their best bet and the a/c type would be intersting to see what they get.


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User currently offlineJM079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 18173 times:



Quoting Caribbean484 (Reply 14):
am not sure how they intend to get back to LHR since no airline is willing to give up slots and even if they do they would cost a great deal of money to tha Tax payers. LGW is their best bet and the a/c type would be intersting to see what they get.

JM will not be a government own airlines by the summer of 2010.

With that in mind the new owners will be free to run the show.


User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 18145 times:
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Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
And also having a choice of flight times will be convenient for passengers. Are they still planning YYZ-MBJ ?

I assume the new service will connect both cities..

Quoting Trintocan (Reply 9):
I do not see anybody giving up LHR slots to them - not even VS, although a VS tie-in would be excellent for marketing.

The deal is still under investigation by The Contractor General..Mike Henry can speak with confidence as there are too many inconsistencies with this deal and fingers are pointing at the three persons involved......It will be interesting to se how VS will counteract JM's re-entry..

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 11):
always wondered why JM had not considered increasing frequencies to YYZ. Travelled KIN-YYZ-KIN two weeks ago and on the return YYZ-KIN the flight was full to capacity...and it took me four days to get my luggage! Additionally, they haul a lot of cargo on that route as well. The 321s always seem to be struggling to do the early-morning climb out of KIN.

Aircraft shortage is the biggest problem.....I heard they may add extra flights during the winter...The proposed flight will depart KIN at 10am and return at 8:30pm.....Another cash cow route for JM....

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 11):
In regards to a second daily flight timed to allow connections to the Eastern Caribbean, this seems as if it would require an evening KIN departure, layover in YYZ, then a morning departure back to KIN. However, given the attempts at keeping route costs minimal, I thought there was a drive to keep layovers to a minimun. For example the current KIN-YYZ-KIN rotation eliminates the need for the aircraft to remain overnight plus allow for a better utilization of the aircraft as it can then be deployed elsewhere, (as with KIN-YYZ-KIN-JFK).

The problem with YYZ is the size of the station and the landing fess.....The proposed flight from MBJ should connect Canada and the EC..They have yet to finalise the flight time....If they plan to target VFR pax, the only option I can see is an overnight stop....

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 13):
It might actually be a good idea to route the new flight YYZ-MBJ-KIN. It would be a good compliment to the existing YYZ-KIN. Plus, given that JM is also aiming at connections to the Eastern Caribbean with this extra service, this routing would make connections easier. The GND service currently operates out of MBJ to allow easier connections so a YYZ-MBJ routing would benefit from that. But perhaps JM would also need to move BGI back to MBJ?

Its cheaper to operate from BGI..To facilitate the crew and aircraft rotation...KIN-BGI does well without the connecting pax..They also have pax connectiong through BGI on LI..

Quoting JM079 (Reply 15):
JM will not be a government own airlines by the summer of 2010.

Interesting times ahead....

Unconfirmed, NA will operate the JFK-KIN-JFK with a B763.....



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 18139 times:



Quoting JM079 (Reply 12):
JM will use the olympic as a marketing tool. It will be the carrier for the Jamaica Olympic and with the incredible performance of our national team in China you can expect them to make much of this.

Smart move by JM.

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 11):
Perhaps JM is trying to make the first strike in an apparent void in services between YYZ and BGI/GND but especially GND

Agree.

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 13):
It might actually be a good idea to route the new flight YYZ-MBJ-KIN. It would be a good compliment to the existing YYZ-KIN. Plus, given that JM is also aiming at connections to the Eastern Caribbean with this extra service, this routing would make connections easier. The GND service currently operates out of MBJ to allow easier connections so a YYZ-MBJ routing would benefit from that.

Agree. This makes a lot of sense.



greenheart
User currently offlineJM079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 18128 times:



Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 17):
Smart move by JM.

It is a great move on there as the olympics will be held in a city that caters to a corporate/VFR as well as a leisure market. When the team went home for the official welcome it was VS that flew the team home. It is going to be an awesome piece of PR to relaunch service to the UK .
I am sure there is alot of work going on behide the scene but at least when JM returns it will do so under new owners and debt free.

What is of interest is whether or not it will be LHR as the gateway. Gravely doubt that as so far LGW is showing up to be a viable option as the cost associated with LHR is very heavy.

As for aircraft type I am going to speculate that it will be airbus as JM is looking for commonality.

As for YYZ we already know that there will be several 319 joining the fleet by summer of next year. So, with this additional service it should commence by the summer of next year for the busy seasons.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 18114 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
The GOJ intends to absorb JM's debt...They are still in talks with Air China....Several other investors have shown interest...
The GOJ will not give a license to no entity to operate as a national carrier until JM is divested.....( A big obstacle for Airone)
The GOJ is reclaiming London..They have given into the demands of the Jamaicans in the UK and plans are in place to return by summer 2010....Discussions will be held with VS...
By making the LHR slots apart of the overall package, JM will be far more attractive...
Returning to London will boost JM's promotion as they plan to be the carrier of the Jamaican Olympic Team...However, alot of groundwork is needed a they don't want to end up with a money loosing route..
YYZ will see a second daily flight..The A321 is limited in seats...They were looking at a larger aircraft, but instead opted for a second flight which they claim will arrive in KIN to connect to the EC..Mrs Williams will elaborate on what new routes JM will open..
The EC has become a money maker and they are focusing on that market....

Nice summary Hummingbird. London would be a good move, need to see a caribbean carrier on the route again. Most likely it will be LGW, but I dont the problem with that. VS and BAs caribbean services, are ex LGW generally speaking and they do just fine.

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 13):
The GND service currently operates out of MBJ to allow easier connections so a YYZ-MBJ routing would benefit from that. But perhaps JM would also need to move BGI back to MBJ?

They are trying to make sure that noone else gets into the GND market. Even AA is seeing trouble with their new flight, and BW well they are just left behind. No worries there, we Grenadians are very pleased and very attached to JM.



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User currently offlineJM079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 18107 times:



Quoting Captaink (Reply 19):
They are trying to make sure that noone else gets into the GND market. Even AA is seeing trouble with their new flight, and BW well they are just left behind. No worries there, we Grenadians are very pleased and very attached to JM

Wow, the loyalty of Grenadians is similar to the committment that Jamicans have for JM

Quoting Captaink (Reply 19):
and BW well they are just left behind

This statement is not gonna go down too well with alot of people.


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days ago) and read 18077 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
They are still in talks with Air China

I take it they are still the front runners.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
The GOJ intends to absorb JM's debt

Definitely necessary. How much debt has been accumulated? USD 500m?

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
The GOJ will not give a license to no entity to operate as a national carrier until JM is divested

Good call (even though I don't like protectionist situations) in this case it would be plain stupid to allow AirOne to operate in JAM unless the Gov't was closing down JM- which clearly isn't going to happen.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
The GOJ is reclaiming London..They have given into the demands of the Jamaicans in the UK and plans are in place to return by summer 2010....Discussions will be held with VS...

Great to see our sister carrier expressing plans to be back in London in the near term. I think CAL remains cautiously optimistic about returning to London.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
By making the LHR slots apart of the overall package, JM will be far more attractive...

Well I hope for JMs sake they get these slots back, but I think it's unlikely that they'll get the slots back.

Quoting JM079 (Reply 20):
This statement is not gonna go down too well with alot of people.

Not at all. I think many would like to see BW re-enter the Jamaican market. It's just everything in its itme. One step at a time- Trinis will be dominating the GND aviation scene soon enough once the previous trends for their banking and manufactured good persist! hehe

AA1818



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8815 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 3 days ago) and read 18075 times:
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Quoting Captaink (Reply 19):
Even AA is seeing trouble with their new flight, and BW well they are just left behind. No worries there, we Grenadians are very pleased and very attached to JM.

AA is seeing a poor LF on the route; however, many Americans are just not traveling due to the recession and credit crunch. But most importantly, this flight is subsidised, so AA isn't loosing out.

Quoting JM079 (Reply 20):
This statement is not gonna go down too well with alot of people.

No worries; BW will eventually fly to GND. However, as previously mentioned, BW is suffering from a lack of aircraft, pilots, and flight attendants. But most importantly, BW is focusing on increasing yields, so that by the end of the year Caribbean Airlines will announce a nice profit!


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18061 times:

Those are interesting polans for JM's return to London by 2010. MInd, the London Olympics are 2 years later (2012) although the need to establish their presence on the route once again would require the two additional years. About the LHR slots, it is interesting to see what comes of it but I doubt that JM would get them back easily. VS seemed very eager to get hold of additional slots after being blanked by Trinidad for BW's slots - the issue there being that VS was not interested in serving POS and wanted to keep merely its weekly TAB service whereas BA, who got the slots, was happy to add POS to its route network.

AA1818, I imagine you are referring to the GND market re BW, they never left KIN. Insofar as GND is concerned, they are not really left behind but instead took a strategic decision to focus on POS and GEO in a bid to restore profitability. GND will return in due course. For the moment though JM seems to be doing very well though.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18030 times:



Quoting Trintocan (Reply 23):
AA1818, I imagine you are referring to the GND market re BW, they never left KIN.



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 21):
I think many would like to see BW re-enter the Jamaican market.

Yes I did mean Grenada and not Jamaica. Typo!

AA1818



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25 AirJamaica : Thats what I am thinking as well. One thing that is certain is that flying to LGW will be more cost effective for JM. Very much so. What is BA's freq
26 SCL767 : BA flies LGW-UVF-POS 3x weekly; along with LGW-ANU-TAB 3x weekly. I think so as well; unless they have 55-60 million USD to acquire them.
27 AirJamaica : OK. I see.
28 JM079 : I was looking at the Boeing as an option even though we recognize that Airbus is the way that JM will go but if we were to ask would the 767-400 seri
29 HummingBird : These statements were made by Omar Davies regarding the slot sales.. "The final decision to go with Virgin Atlantic was due to the fact that its propo
30 SCL767 : Was there an anti-corruption clause in the agreement between VS and JM?
31 Caribbean484 : I don't know how they expect to get those slots back, since it was a transparent deal and the UK aviation authorities approved this transfer. The onl
32 SCL767 : Or they can try to buy slots for around 60 million USD to operate at LHR.
33 HummingBird : No, it was a cash transaction...This goes to show the mentality of the previous admin...They did not consider JM's future during the deal.....They co
34 Caribbean484 : Those slots are not of the property of JM but of the BAA, they could not lease the slots to anyone at anytime. Its a use it or lose it situation but
35 SCL767 : Not surprised; this does not bode well for JM at LHR. However, the reality is that both BWIA and JM's slots were sold at undervalued prices; they cou
36 HummingBird : VS purchased seven slots for LHR, then transferred the flights to LGW....In fact, they have only used 2 of the seven slots for the flights to Jamaica
37 AirJamaica : I'm not certain I am fully clear on the " which requires transfers to MBJ from KIN" part of Audley Shaw's statement re VS. What exactly is he trying
38 HummingBird : He was referring to the proposal by Conway to use the A319s as shuttle betwween MBJ and KIN....BA would have offered 6 flights to Jamaica..4 to KIN a
39 LimaMike : Ok so if VS has only used two of the seven slots for services to Jamaica, have they utilized the remaining five, and to where?
40 AirJamaica : OK. Much clearer now. Interesting days are ahead for sure in the near future. Wasn't aware that Conway mentioned the B777. As much as I would like to
41 Post contains links AirJamaica : In the news................... ISSA: GIVE HOTELS EXPORT STATUS http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...r/20081120/business/business2.html
42 HummingBird : They were used for LHR expansions..Last time I heard some were used to BGI... [/quote] Bartlett has, however, maintained that the tourism sector woul
43 Captaink : Under all the 'old talk' forgetting about competition, business etc, Let's just think about the industry as our passion. My favourite moments where w
44 Post contains links JM079 : The slots issue is closed because when the GOJ transferred JM from the ministry of transport to the ministry of finance they took the matter out of Mi
45 JM079 : Guys, on a matter unrelated to airline but the reggae boyz despite beating Mexico, Honduras and Canada will not be playing in South Africa as they bea
46 AirJamaica : Agree. OK.
47 AA1818 : The problem that many Trinis (and likewise J'cans) forget is that the slots were sold at a cheap price to entice BA (in Trinidad, VS in J'ca) to star
48 JM079 : LOL....it is an incredible performance by the team. The only reason they were eliminated is because the overall goals that they score over the season
49 JM079 : Am not sure I understand that, please explain.
50 JM079 : Report out of St Vincent today has it that there was some breech at the airport last night as two young boys, aged 11 and 12 scaled the airport fench
51 Trintocan : I have to agree with AA1818 here, the slots from both BW and JM went for much less than market value becuase the respective Governments insisted on ai
52 SCL767 : That will be great! Maybe there will be a new color scheme. However, B772s are hard to come by, and very expensive. LOL, maybe they will be in GEO by
53 Captaink : We have some very interesting/funny security breaches in the Caribbean. Better that way I suppose.
54 Post contains links HummingBird : Tourism woes hits Bahamas... http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/293138590710658.php .....................................................
55 Post contains links JM079 : The beautiful spice island of Grenada and its airport is shown in this pic. Absolutely inviting and I hope to visit you soon. http://www.airliners.net
56 Post contains links HummingBird : Breathtaking.. News Troubled tourism sector calls for help.. http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magaz..._TOURISM_SECTOR_CALLS_FOR_HELP.asp Caribbean hote
57 Post contains links JM079 : If LGW is to become a private entity as suggested in the link below will it not affect the ability of carriers such as JM returning to London and oper
58 JM079 : Humminbird, I read that article this morning and I was completely dumfounded by its timing. Even, though it is a very informative and well research a
59 Post contains links JM079 : What a remarkable difference between now and in the summer. There was palpable fear that the cost of fuel will hike and send economies around the worl
60 HummingBird : Another example where the writer lacks understanding.....It was Barbados who designated JM as the flag carrier based on the benefits that could be de
61 Post contains links JM079 : Information from the region is not good. Trinidad is feeling the effect. While in Jamaica, www.jis.gov.jm is reporting that the minister of finance wi
62 AirJamaica : Airport security breach is serious business but this story is humorous. Nigaritis kicked in I guess. Great airport shot. Very scenic. My aunt who res
63 Post contains links JM079 : Air Jamaica optimistic about passenger load for the up winter despite a decrease in booking from tourist. Instead Jamaicans have offset that decrease
64 SCL767 : Jetfuel prices are not the same as current oil prices; and BW WILL produce a profit by the end of the year. Luckily, T&T has a SWF and a huge budget
65 AirJamaica : Commendable. They really have some great deals ATM. My grand-aunt is one of those patriots. She is flying JM 078 YYZ-KIN on Monday Nov 24th and she w
66 Post contains links JM079 : I am off to GRU/GIG for a week starting on monday and I will be flying Continental for the first time. My itinerary list EWR as the connecting city bu
67 Captaink : I hope you write a trip report. I am using Continental in a few weeks for the first time, PVR/IAH/LGA, all narrowbody medium haul flights, but I am i
68 HummingBird : lol... BA recently voted Grenada as their most popular destination...Job well done... This is what drives JM yields...Despite the high fares, Jamaica
69 JM079 : Will certainly do. I used NW in the summer to FLL/SFO/LAS and DTW and was on the 320/319 and the 757 but in all honestly the interior of the 757 was
70 AirJamaica : KIN-MBJ-MCO for me on Monday Nov 24th as well on JM. I doubt I will get to experience their A319 as it is expected to do MIA.......JM 021/020, 025/02
71 JM079 : A relative flew AA last month from LHR/ORD/YYZ.... his experience on the 777 was quite pleasant/economy was very roomy.
72 A340Jamaica : Well, after an absence of around 4 years, I am back posting under a new user name. Nice to see a Jamaican thread going with informative posts. I look
73 AirJamaica : My cousin flew AA LHR-MIA-MBJ and back and she said the B777 was comfortable as well. Her luggage got left behind in MIA on the return leg but it was
74 JM079 : Welcome back, a nuff ah wi round yaah... Looking forward to your imput
75 AA1818 : I do 3 rountrips- POS-MIA-LHR (sometimes POS-MIA-ORD_LHR) on AA each year and used to do it in Y and I never had a serious complaint. Same for the pa
76 SCL767 : JFK-MBJ-JFK is operated by a 763 until the end of January, 2009, when it will revert back to 752 service. KIN gets four 738s daily, MIA-MBJ will oper
77 AA1818 : Other than the lack of PTVs the 763 are almost identical. The J-class product is basically the same (at least I couldn't tell any difference). AA use
78 Captaink : That is correct, the 767 fleet, the 200s and 300s have the updated interior, and are quite nice airplances to fly on. I flew each type once. The only
79 Post contains links HummingBird : It seems the A321 will be dispatched on your flight to MCO..... Don't forget your camera.. I have never experienced their B737s.. I experienced their
80 Captaink : Wasn't MRTC a dream come through. It really set AA apart in those days.
81 HummingBird : It was certainly an experience...I heard the MD's were the most comfortable.... I also experienced the A300 with seatback videos on a flight from JFK
82 AirJamaica : Their system is displaying the equipment as a B752 throughout the winter. Earlier this year for the winter it displayed the A300, then the B767 & now
83 Post contains links AirJamaica : In the news................. TOURISM PLAYERS BRACE FOR IMPACT OF FINANCIAL CRISIS http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20081123/lead/lead5.html CRIS
84 Captaink : The old birds continues to give very pleasant flights. Very quiet (row 17 to the front), peaceful smooth flights.
85 Post contains links AirJamaica : More News............. AIRONE EXECS BLAST GVT ON DELAY OF LICENSE APPROVAL http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magaz..._ON_DELAY_OF_LICENCE_APPROVAL_.asp
86 Post contains links JM079 : Wow, guys Airone certainly has some major supports as we have seen a sleuth of articles from the Observer attaching JM and they are using all angles
87 A340Jamaica : What is with these Airone individuals? Can't they understand that for the time being, JM needs to be offered to potential buyers with the best possib
88 AirJamaica : Obviously there is an agenda here. Even if I had no travel plans during this season, these fares would make me easily change my mind as they are quit
89 JM079 : [quote=A340Jamaica,reply=87][/quote You know what there is just a little bit of anti-JM coming from those people at the Jamaica Observer and as I have
90 Caribbean484 : I think the folks at Airone are underestimating the aviation industry quite siginificantly in this region. There is a bias against JM from the Observ
91 SCL767 : NK may have decreased services to the Caribbean, and this may seem as if NK is doing poorly against the "big boys." But its quite the opposite; NK no
92 LimaMike : A question I would like to throw out is, given the current state of the world airline and travel industry, do you think that even if Air One were to
93 HummingBird : It is my aircraft of preference......IMO, the A321 is more interesting than the A320.. I have also heard the presentation is impressive... I am being
94 Caribbean484 : No its not, we have seen NK reduce flights to the Caribbean significantly where there are three players in town or AA dominates the Connecting market
95 SCL767 : Not really, AV flies FLL/MIA-BOG-MIA/FLL, AA flies MIA-BOG, LAN flies MIA-BOG-SCL, NK enters, and fares have dropped significantly. Same for LIM, AA
96 HummingBird : BGI/GND news.. BGI services will operate with an A320. GND services will operate with an A321.. BGI-KIN traffic has alot of locals and connecting traf
97 Post contains links JM079 : A major boost to Jamaica image and a great day in the life of Usain Bolt, guys http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/13482/48/ LimaMike, I also thi
98 Captaink : I suppose this is for the Christmas period. Since baggage is under control now, with the new weight the restrictions, the A321 can do what it does be
99 Caribbean484 : And this is where they have already started of badly, they want to position the airline the same way as in their telecommunication market. C&W was th
100 HummingBird : Correct.....Another travel period where the A321s will be strecthed and used only on trunk routes... News ...........................................
101 Post contains links JM079 : I saw that article and will comment on it later as it will be apart of the masterplan for the Vernamfield develoment. http://www.airjamaica.com/speci
102 HummingBird : Unbelievable....A major aim at commanding a higher market share....Good marketting move on their part...
103 JM079 : JM off time last week was off the chart and so far today they have continued the trend. I subscriped to there email list and I woke up to that news. I
104 Post contains links JM079 : Hey, guys Jamaica is predicting that it will weather the economic storm and that its planned investments in tourism, privatisation of NMIA, AIr Jamajc
105 AA1818 : T&T in fiscal year 09 is expecting a $6bn reduction in revenues. Remedial action is being taken. Is there any fallout in revenues or increased expendi
106 Post contains images AirJamaica : Arrived in MCO at 1:40pm today. 15 minutes early. Took 96 photos ( poor camera ) between KIN-MBJ-MCO so I will prepare a comprehensive Trip Report whe
107 Post contains links HummingBird : Good news..My source has revealed there will be a media update regarding the divestment....The documents should be signed by the end of the year...I
108 Captaink : The A319 is my favourite in the series, moreso because the little plane has some serious 'legs'.
109 Post contains links AA1818 : I don't know if this was mentioned here before but I came across an Air Jamaica Investment ad in the UK version of The Economist for the week ending N
110 Yellowtail : IF you compare CO to US etc...yes..the fuss is worth it....but if you are comparing it to Y in other parts of the world...don't hold your breath...
111 AirJamaica : Sure did. Babybus did JM 021 and was on-time. Took photos of her taxing to RWY 30 for departure. I will use photobucket and include them in my Trip R
112 SCL767 : Air Jamaica recently sent out e-mails offering good fares from the U.S. to KIN/MBJ/CUR/GND/BGI, and the JTB has increased advertising dramatically he
113 Speedbird2263 : Everytime I see a BW/CAL 738 out of MIA I smile and Im proud....more so when i see a JM 'bus but proud of my caribbean airlines to the hilt non the l
114 JM079 : An exhausting flight guys but GRU is an amazing place. CO from EWR followed a rather unique flight path as the flight over BDA over the atlantic while
115 HummingBird : Can't wait to see those pics! Since the 1990s..JM is the official handling agent for their flights to Jamaica....Their codeshare flight is CU6061/606
116 HummingBird : How was the service to GRU? Should be a spotters paradise....
117 Speedbird2263 : Would most certainly like to do that leg sometime sounds like a rather interesting flight plan.
118 AirJamaica : I am confident that we wont fear off too badly even if there is a decrease in arrivals this winter. Good to see them being aggressive with promoting
119 AA1818 : Hey guys- any more info on the MBJ-MEX link supposed to come online in January? If it's still on track surely something official will be have to be an
120 Post contains links HummingBird : Thanks.... I assume it was a medical stop... The GOJ to increase advertising budget.. http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/13563/26/ Bahamas to t
121 Yellowtail : I think the union is jsut trying to be difficult.....I have been to KIN quite a few times recently...and not found any of the hotels or transport to
122 AA1818 : Sweet! With CM already in the Caribbean, AM about to enter Jamaica (MBJ) and TA being wooed to enter POS, it's just great to see the links between Ce
123 SCL767 : I wouldn't hold my breath on that one! Since the POS Gov't recently announced massive spending cuts, it will be less likely that this flight will eve
124 JM079 : It certainly was as I know that it was raining at Newark when we departed fr GRU but what I failed to mention was that CO from IAH was delayed arrivi
125 Post contains links HummingBird : News Lynch is new Director at JTB... http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/13579/26/ GOJ to provide incentives for hoteliers.. http://www.radiojama
126 F9Animal : It has me sold! I have wanted to visit Jamaica so badly. The Sandals resort looks tempting for my next vacation. However, I am not sure who to fly. I
127 LimaMike : LOL Quite frankly, like many of you, I think the "safety" excuse by BA is quite ludicrous. I'm intrigued as to how many incidences they know of where
128 SCL767 : It's not, U.S. flight crews have been robbed and assaulted in multiple countries throughout Latin America and the Caribbean.
129 JM079 : There are several otions available of getting there.... SEA to ORD and then MBJ with AA or UA SEA to ATL to MBJ with Delta Or SEA to CLT to MBJ with
130 Post contains links HummingBird : I am also curious, regarding the number of incidents where crews were assaulted whilst in Jamaica...In my previous hotel, we handled 6-8 airline crew
131 AirJamaica : Or SEA-DFW-MBJ on AA. For travel on JM as stated by JM079 you would need to choose one of the mentioned option. Also if you could get SEA-MCO by noon
132 Yellowtail : But it makes the flight less profitable and more likely to get axed. But in Jamaica?....and I would also like to assert that they are foreign flight
133 Post contains links HummingBird : IDB donates millions to help sell Air J The Government has received a multi-million dollar package from the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) to a
134 AirJamaica : The thing is this scenario can happen at virtually any city in the world and I don't think it is more likely to happen in KIN than anywhere else. Jus
135 HummingBird : Indeed...The divestment is on schedule as planned...A media presentation will be held shortly.. Sounds like fun...It should be warmer next week..This
136 F9Animal : That is the winner! LAX to MBJ on JM is the way to go!
137 AirJamaica : Looking forward to hear details. Plus the LAX-MBJ departure is way in the evening ; not before 10:30pm so plenty of time to connect.
138 Post contains links HummingBird : Hope you enjoy your Jamaican experience.... News Tourism Ministry gears up for rough seas.. http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20081128/news/news
139 AA1818 : Would love to do a KIN-GEO-JFK routing. Would certainly light a fire under Caribbean Airlines' arse and get them to think bigger and more quickly! Wh
140 BW424 : Please do get more info.Will be interesting..... LOL!LOL!It sure would!! Yeah,what happened to the 2 additional 319's that were to enter service with
141 HummingBird : I have heard the statement that BW is short on aircraft, but looking at how the GEO market is expanding ( look at DL)...I believe GEO deserve it's no
142 AirJamaica : Sir Ed is really working overtime. Very commendable. Interesting. I am aware that if anything should come to frutation where this development is conc
143 Captaink : There was a rumour that the DL CEO took a walk down Church Ave, in East Flatbush, and decided that the 767 would be appropriate for the weekend fligh
144 AirJamaica : ...Who knows....probably he actually did.
145 JM079 : I see that the JTB executive director is also doing the job as chairman of the same board that is called being an "executive chairman" and i thought t
146 JM079 : Hey, guys with the divestment of Air Jamaica coming on stream shortly and the imminent sale of the sugar company of jamaica to the Brazilian (where I
147 HummingBird : With the expected shortfall in arrivals, he will be giving the full hundred..Next year planned marketing will be even more aggressive They approached
148 BW424 : I agree 110%!!DL is making loads of money on this route.Hopefully when CAL get 1 or 2 extra aircraft(after the 8th),GEO will be one of their main pri
149 AirJamaica : A pity. I have been seeing them. Heavy rotation. Well, there is no ''if'' or ''maybe'' that GEO is lucrative as we all can clearly see now. DL is smi
150 Post contains links JM079 : http://www.jis.gov.jm/Jamaica2030.pdf Jamaica has launched a development plan to advance the country to first world status http://www.jamaicagleaner.c
151 Post contains links JM079 : http://www.caribbean360.com/News/Bus...ies/2008/11/27/NEWS0000006622.html Jetblue will be increasing capacity to Bermuda for a short time in the new y
152 Post contains links HummingBird : Well it looks like the pullout of charters from the market has increased the yields to GEO.... This is an interesting story from Travelspan.. http://
153 Post contains links HummingBird : JM had an A321 flight 1028 from MIA this morn that catered to commericial agricultural workers... Miami Air has a flight routed PIE-MBJ-BOS yersterday
154 AirJamaica : JM 081 MBJ-MCO for Sun 3011 was delayed approximately 1 hour due to the tornado watch that was in effect for the area. One touched down near Disney a
155 HummingBird : I beleive the A321 was used on that day.... I think Sandals is ahead of Super-Clubs.. Pace Airlines will be in MBJ today..The flight originates in FD
156 A330Jamaica : Yes, I was on Westjet YYZ - MCO on Sunday and we were delayed into MCO because of the rough weather. We fought 200 kt headwinds the whole way down fr
157 AirJamaica : O.K. Tech or medical ? I remember a few years ago this AC aircraft was flying from YYZ to MBJ/KIN and had to make an emergency landing in MIA for mec
158 Post contains links HummingBird : This should come as no surprise as to why the GND flights were reduced... http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...r/20081203/business/business7.html My
159 Speedbird2263 : Right on the money Seems Mr. Bartlett is really starting to display his weight in gold.
160 LimaMike : CM 418/417 PTY-KIN-PTY was an E90 yesterday. Normally CM flies PTY-KIN-PTY on Wed/Sun using 737s. Is it that CM has increased service on the route by
161 HummingBird : He will be pushing further in order to bring calm to the current turbulence.....The Aeromexico arrangements should be finalized soon..... The current
162 JM079 : So, much has been happening since I left home for work and some vacation but here is something that is totally unrelated to travel. We elected a minor
163 2travel2know : As PTY-KIN-PTY is a heavily Higgler dependent route, I wonder how much baggage will be left in PTY those days the flights operate w/E190.
164 AirJamaica : Must be quite a line up down there during peak hours with all these increased services. Sounds like a very interesting country. I wasn't too surprise
165 Captaink : I think for an island like Grenada, 3 times a week is good enough to start. Airlines like US did it once a week. Most airlines, BA, VS, Charters from
166 AirJamaica : Agree. Good to see JM successfully servicing JFK-GND with multiple weekly flights that have healthy loads.
167 HummingBird : I saw their new brochure...I must commend Butch for transforming Sandals into a world class hotel.....I am impressed with the butler service.. I will
168 2travel2know : This Monday, Digicel became the 3rd mobile provider here in Panamá. I suspect that the Caribbean-Irish company entrance in our market had something t
169 HummingBird : CTO head says positive signs ahead for regional tourism Hugh Riley, interim secretary general of the Caribbean Tourism Organisation (CTO) on Wednesday
170 Post contains links HummingBird : He has no intention of stopping his Central American expansion... http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...r/20081205/business/business1.html ---------
171 2travel2know : Now that CM flies 4 x week to KIN, getting from KIN to SDQ or CCS/MAR can be done in one afternoon, yes, I know, only 4 times per week. At least CM K
172 AirJamaica : Babybus probably working too hard. Stress Is this service still once weekly or have their frequencies been increased for the holidays ? Returned home
173 Flyinryan99 : That's right! I am flying DTW-MIA-MBJ 12/6 for a week of R&R (Rum and Relaxation...hehe).
174 BW424 : Looking forward to it!
175 JM079 : Now, that I am back in office, there is tons of stuff to cover so much has been said in earlier posting. Have not had a chance to do a trip report. Pl
176 AirJamaica : NW flies DTW-MBJ on certain days. Was it fully booked ? Good that you decided to make it Jamaica. Great choice. Same here. I wonder what was his reas
177 JM079 : There were two reasons: they were earning alot of money plus they had lots of benefits which obviously he did not want to continue paying. Secondly,
178 Flyinryan99 : Yeah. I really wanted the N/S but it was booked to the second highest fare class already. At least this way, I get to notch off 2 new airports along
179 HummingBird : Hopefully if the demand grows, it will be daily in 2009... Today it was late in operating 025... Am glad you took the cold front home, lol.....Lookin
180 Post contains links AirJamaica : OK. Impressive indeed. OK. I see. May visit my family in DTW next spring. Not certain if JM served that city when I was a toddler but when he was at
181 Post contains links JM079 : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28022324/ Look at some of these deals that MSNBC is reporting that JM has for the upcoming Jazz and Blues festival in 2009
182 Post contains links HummingBird : It was on the wish-list, but NW jumped at the oppurtunity.. Pretty soon it will be MBJ/KIN-ATL-DTW.. Job well done, nice pics.. With these fares, I e
183 Post contains links JM079 : http://www.airjamaica.com/BBCheckedBaggage.aspx In looking at JM baggage allowance for this season I notice that JM has three classes of service out o
184 LimaMike : Hey you did an excellent job!!! Very detailed. Well done.
185 A340Jamaica : " target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...8151/ Very detailed trip report AirJamaica. I did not realize that so much more has been done
186 Speedbird2263 : Hear Hear.....Very Interesting trip report and I certainly look forward to more reports on excursions from our little corner of the world. I second t
187 SCL767 : I think that the writer of the article forgot that Caribbean Airlines flies into the Kingston Norman Manley International 9x weekly; and is the only
188 SCL767 : Sorry for the double post, the edit feature is not working for some reason. It's very common; e.g. AA/LA/4M all fly red eye flights on the MIA-EZE/SC
189 Post contains links JM079 : http://www.yvr.ca/authority/news/whatsnew.asp?vid=canadaline I came across this link that I want to share with you. In the 5 years that I lived in Van
190 AirJamaica : Great deals. Will the change be a permanent one ? Thanks. Was a lot of work but I enjoyed it. Took many more photos but could not possibly include al
191 Post contains links JM079 : Lonely planet has a link to various countires and here is what they have to say about Jamaica http://www.lonelyplanet.com/jamaica Here is a link to th
192 Post contains links JM079 : The finance minister said JM will be a big part of Jamaica development even when it is divested next year http://www.jis.gov.jm/finance_planni...AIR_J
193 Post contains links JM079 : Liat pilots wants to strike and is make there unhappiness known. http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/13909/88/
194 Captaink : Jamaica is indeed different from the rest of the Southern English Speaking Caribbean. The music is one reminder of that..
195 HummingBird : They offer three classes..Econ, Econ Premium and Upper Class..Am curious as to the load for flights to KIN.... This airport has so much potential, ho
196 Captaink : Why are we speaking in present tense, didn't JM drop London? Or did I miss something huge here.. hehe Please update.
197 JM079 : JM code share with VS
198 Post contains links JM079 : http://www.airjamaica.com/massivesale.aspx JM has just sent via email this notice that they are having a massive seat sale for the new year and will e
199 AirJamaica : I remember AM L101 was a regular on the DTW-MBJ route as well as their B752 at times. Do you think Ed and the gang will comply ? I know the mid-west
200 Post contains links JM079 : On several ocassions that has happen. There is no traffic in the air which wold cause them to hold so take can be a mad rush. http://www.jis.gov.jm/i
201 JM079 : Air Jamaica will be using NA 767 on the busy JFK/KIN/JKIN run during the busy season as this becomes effective as of December 18. The 321 which usuall
202 HummingBird : A rather interesting incentive to support the hotels and the festival.. It's a sticky situation.....I believe the DTW flights are 2 weekly..DL has be
203 AirJamaica : Good news. The hard work Ed and the gang is doing is certainly paying off. I am also very happy that they are also fucussing on a more diversed touri
204 JM079 : AA will be using there Airbus out of MIA KIN over the holiday season which will be a switch from the 737. Quite a bit of additional capacity but stron
205 AirJamaica : Great development. I really enjoy viewing the A300 in action. Interesting indeed. I think I will have to visit MBJ before the winter season is finish
206 HummingBird : I heard it will operate JM017/016....It was always interesting to see the pax on this flight...You swore you were in a Fashion Parade....I have never
207 AirJamaica : I figured. I saw a photo ( don't remember if it was on A'.net or JetPhotos.net ) that displayed a 25 departure and it was during a cold front where t
208 JM017 : I didn't think they ever happened. But i have actually had one myself and seen one. Both were A310s. My landing was very hard. But it was nice to get
209 AirJamaica : Interesting. I always wanted my aircraft to do a 25 arrival or departure for a change but no such luck as yet. Also when landing on 07 from KIN usual
210 A340Jamaica : I have actually seen several runway 25 departures and arrivals and also been on board for a 25 arrival and a 25 departure. Usually, they occurred ear
211 Post contains links JM079 : CBC out of BGI has carried this release in which BA is advising that the route has been quite profitable and despite the downturn in travel they are h
212 JM079 : Air Canada direct/non-stop flight from YVR to MBJ will commence on December 19 and news out of Kingston today from the tourism board has indicated tha
213 HummingBird : I will post the new thread later today.. The interesting thing about runway 25; it rarely last beyond 6pm....I have seen night arrivals and departures
214 AirJamaica : OK. " target=_blank>http://www.cbc.bb/index.pl/article?i...62622 " target=_blank>http://www.cbc.bb/index.pl/article?i...15907 Good news here. Saw thi
215 JM079 : Several times it has happen to me especially during the late afternoon arrival and departure into KIN/ Just outside of Spanish town we were in a hold
216 AirJamaica : Interesting. Probably at Gudil. ( If it still have the same name ) Not bad at all. Hopefully when I am ready to venture to a Caribbean destination on
217 Post contains links JM079 : Awesome news out of JM today guys. The national carrier will be operating YYZ/MBJ/KIN for the holiday seasons. An 320 will be use on that route depart
218 A340Jamaica : Yeah, I am pretty certain we were at or near MTOW that day. I have never been on any other 320 flights and I would say I have been on quite a few 320
219 AirJamaica : What will be the frequency of this holiday flight ? Will the north-bound flight originate in KIN as well ? " target=_blank>http://www.superclubs.com/
220 JM079 : It is 3 times weekly for the season and I was informed today that the capacity exist for this service and JM will give review the loads in January to
221 AirJamaica : I see. Very interesting. What flight # will it be designated as ..... 2079/2078 ? I know usually when they have these holiday only additional service
222 HummingBird : New thread is ready...Sorry for the delay was sent on a goose chase with these pics, lol
223 LimaMike : JM1079/1078
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