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DL's International 764/752 Routes  
User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5763 times:

Hi everyone,

I noticed that DL does not currently fly their 764s to CDG any more... what routes do those currently operate? Any planned changes for spring/summer that are already known about?

On a similar topic, where do the internationally configured 752 fly to? Are there any routes where the ones with domestic first are used internationally or are those strictly for domestic flying?


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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5749 times:

Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
Are there any routes where the ones with domestic first are used internationally

Yes, but not on trans-Atlantic duties. Think Central and South America.

Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
On a similar topic, where do the internationally configured 752 fly to?

DUB, MAN, AMS, BRU, SNN, FRA, EDI, AGP, and soon GOT, ZRH, VLC, ROB, ABV, LAD, SSG.

[Edited 2008-11-22 00:21:56]

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5680 times:

The international "75E" also does domestic U.S. hops from JFK in between missions. JFK-MCO for example, as well as JFK-LAS and a few others.

User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 5386 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 1):
Yes, but not on trans-Atlantic duties. Think Central and South America.

Isn't the only domestically configured 764 on the international front running between ATL and LIM these days?



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2190 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 5366 times:



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 3):
Isn't the only domestically configured 764 on the international front running between ATL and LIM these days?

I think that's correct. There's not that much of a fleet left and they are pretty much Hawaii, Salt Lake City and Lima bound.

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 1):

DUB, MAN, AMS, BRU, SNN, FRA, EDI, AGP, and soon GOT, ZRH, VLC, ROB, ABV, LAD, SSG.

A couple of seasonal adjustments also like CVG-LGW which goes to a 757 this winter.

Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
I noticed that DL does not currently fly their 764s to CDG any more... what routes do those currently operate? Any planned changes for spring/summer that are already known about?

764s will operate all Delta flights to LHR next summer (obviously not NW's flights). A 764 will operate DL11/12 to LGW from January until March.


User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3738 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 5306 times:



Quoting Runway23 (Reply 4):
I think that's correct. There's not that much of a fleet left and they are pretty much Hawaii, Salt Lake City and Lima bound.

I was on 832 and 834MH to and from Hawaii last month out of ATL.



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User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 5290 times:



Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
what routes do those currently operate?

For December 2008 the 764s will fly:
ATL-SCL
ATL-GIG
ATL-GRU
ATL-LIM (Domestic)
ATL-DKR-JNB
ATL-MAD
ATL-AMS
ATL-MUC
ATL-FRA

I think that's it for next month. In the summer, you'll see a shift of these planes from South America (SCL, GIG, GRU) to Europe (BCN, SVO, FCO, MXP, VCE, etc.) You'll most likely see a lot more routes receiving 764's as by next summer Delta will have the final 7 or 8 converted from domestic to international configuration. Also, 764's will be taken off of ATL-JNB freeing up a couple more for use.

Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
On a similar topic, where do the internationally configured 752 fly to?

For December:
JFK-SNN
JFK-DUB
JFK-EDI
JFK-AMS
JFK-BRU
JFK-FRA
ATL-REC-FOR
ATL-UIO
ATL-GYE
JFK-LAX 2x


Again this will change greatly in the summer while Delta expands to underserved markets in Europe and Africa in the summer as mentioned above.

Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
Are there any routes where the ones with domestic first are used internationally or are those strictly for domestic flying?

I'm pretty sure all 757's being used internationally have now been converted to have Business Elite and AVOD in coach. Delta used to fly JFK-SNN with a domestic configuration for the longest time but it's international now.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineNomadicNonrev From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5219 times:



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):

Quoting Haggis79 (Thread starter):
what routes do those currently operate?

For December 2008 the 764s will fly:
ATL-SCL
ATL-GIG
ATL-GRU
ATL-LIM (Domestic)
ATL-DKR-JNB
ATL-MAD
ATL-AMS
ATL-MUC
ATL-FRA

Not sure if you wanted the domestic routes as well, but the 764 also flies to HNL, JAX, LAX, MCO, SLC, SFO, and TPA.


User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1343 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5154 times:

Even noticed an international 764 on BOS-ATL in Nov.


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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4946 times:



Quoting NomadicNonrev (Reply 7):
Not sure if you wanted the domestic routes as well, but the 764 also flies to HNL, JAX, LAX, MCO, SLC, SFO, and TPA.

Actually, the 764ER no longer flies to JAX, SFO, and TPA. The largest aircraft those airports get are the domestic 763s.

Also, we soon could see some NW 753s on the ATL-Florida runs, as they are the ideal aircraft for such routes due to its very low CASM.



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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4847 times:



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 3):
Isn't the only domestically configured 764 on the international front running between ATL and LIM these days?

yes.

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 4):
I think that's correct. There's not that much of a fleet left and they are pretty much Hawaii, Salt Lake City and Lima bound.

I think they still have 1-2 LAX turns.



yep.
User currently offlineJigarciar From Colombia, joined May 2005, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4170 times:



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):
For December:
JFK-SNN
JFK-DUB
JFK-EDI
JFK-AMS
JFK-BRU
JFK-FRA
ATL-REC-FOR
ATL-UIO
ATL-GYE
JFK-LAX 2x

Should we add the JFK-BOG route, which will start on December 18th ?


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4136 times:



Quoting Jigarciar (Reply 11):
Should we add the JFK-BOG route, which will start on December 18th ?

JFK-BOG will be operated using a domestic-configured 757, meaning no Business Elite seats. So, no, it shouldn't be included in the list.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4895 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3463 times:
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Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):
For December:
JFK-SNN
JFK-DUB
JFK-EDI
JFK-AMS
JFK-BRU
JFK-FRA
ATL-REC-FOR
ATL-UIO
ATL-GYE
JFK-LAX 2x

Also JFK-LYS, JFK-AGP, JFK-MAN.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3406 times:



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 6):
JFK-LAX 2x

only 1x with C seats. the other 75 flight has 26F seats



yep.
User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4895 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3351 times:
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Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 14):
only 1x with C seats. the other 75 flight has 26F seats

All those schedules for the 752 on domestic runs are incredibly unreliable..there are constant equipment switches to an ex-Song 757 or a regular 75 - particularly bad during the summer but sseems to be more reliable now in the winter (probably because the international utilization is not as heavy).

Am waiting for my SFO-JFK redeye now - scheduled to be a 752, and amazingly, it is being operated as scheduled by a 752 with the BE seats!


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3274 times:



Quoting Panamair (Reply 15):
Am waiting for my SFO-JFK redeye now - scheduled to be a 752, and amazingly, it is being operated as scheduled by a 752 with the BE seats!

nice. I'm pissed......i lost my 75E on the ATL-JFK runs. I still have 76Es though.



yep.
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2851 times:
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I believe the new service to FOR/REC will be on a 752 with BE. Am i correct ?


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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7117 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

The all Y transatlantic 757's were the best way to cross the Atlantic, especially when skyteam elite pax were allocated first class seating.


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User currently offlineNomadicNonrev From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2713 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 9):
Quoting NomadicNonrev (Reply 7):
Not sure if you wanted the domestic routes as well, but the 764 also flies to HNL, JAX, LAX, MCO, SLC, SFO, and TPA.

Actually, the 764ER no longer flies to JAX, SFO, and TPA. The largest aircraft those airports get are the domestic 763s.

It may not be daily, but DL still uses the 764 on those routes...I'm actually taking the ATL-JAX flight on a 764 in December.

All utilizing 764s
ATL-JAX is flight 1072 (my flight)
ATL-SFO is flight 701
ATL-TPA is flight 1038


User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

one of the four JFK-SLC flights is a 757 with BE seats. I flew one last week and sat up front... Very nice seats! I'm scheduled for another on the 12th; hopefully I'll be upgraded, which is probably very rare with the lowered front cabin capacity on this plane.


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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

What are the chances of more 764s being ordered? Slim to none?


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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2488 times:
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Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 21):
What are the chances of more 764s being ordered? Slim to none?

Even DL now using them on busy routes to Europe and South America, In my view, none. It's just a bigger 763 while the 772 can allow more flexibility and seats.

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 4):
764s will operate all Delta flights to LHR next summer (obviously not NW's flights). A 764 will operate DL11/12 to LGW from January until March

These birds to LHR are the ones that will receive the new seats on BE.



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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2428 times:



Quoting NomadicNonrev (Reply 19):
It may not be daily, but DL still uses the 764 on those routes...I'm actually taking the ATL-JAX flight on a 764 in December.

That's a special two day equipment upgrade. The 764 is not a regularly scheduled aircraft on ATL-JAX.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2368 times:



Quoting NomadicNonrev (Reply 19):
ATL-JAX is flight 1072 (my flight)
ATL-SFO is flight 701
ATL-TPA is flight 1038

Looking at the schedules, I am only finding the 764ER on ATL-JAX on November 29/30, and on ATL-SFO November 29/30 and December 1.

However, on ATL-TPA, I found a few 764ER flights on December 8, 11, 12, and 15.



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25 Papatango : Those were domestic 767-400's. I flew one rt JFK-MAN for the British Open in Liverpool.
26 Evan767 : Delta also flew 757's in domestic configuration when they received them from AA. Most notably, JFK-SNN was flown by a domestic 757.
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