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9 Hours In A 757.  
User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22447 times:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/0/0/1427003.jpg

Okay, saw this photo and in the caption it says 9 hours over the Atlantic. Are there routes with 757's with 9 hours of flight time and if there are please let me know what they are so I can stay away from them.


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User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22470 times:

Okay, the caption is missing but the picture is on the front page right now on airliners.net.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22446 times:

My Wife and I flew EWR-BCN-EWR on a CO 757-200, I think the return flight was about 9 hours.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1109 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22410 times:

I think it might be charter carrying only a few people or something since NW does not have TATL ops out EWR to my knowledge.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22415 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
I think it might be charter carrying only a few people or something since NW does not have TATL ops out EWR to my knowledge.

AMS-EWR


User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22410 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
I think it might be charter carrying only a few people or something since NW does not have TATL ops out EWR to my knowledge.

Possible. I just know 9 hours is ALOT of time in that thing.



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22350 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
I think it might be charter carrying only a few people or something since NW does not have TATL ops out EWR to my knowledge.

They alternate with KL on AMS-EWR services. Currently, they are running flight NW63 on an A333, but during the summer schedule (until 10/1), it was a 752W.



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User currently offlineRandyWaldron From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 324 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22351 times:

Anything from Europe to the US East coast is going to be pushing 8:00 or more scheduled time.

For example, NWA's 757 routed AMS-JFK is scheduled at 8:50 block-to-block. Therefore anything to EWR, PHL, IAD from most points in Europe is going to be 8+ hours scheduled.

I don't know how often you travel the Atlantic, but 757's have been doing the crossings for some time now. If you want to "stay away from them" it just takes a little more research on your part or a consultation with your airline/travel agent to ensure you're not booked on one.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22319 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
I think it might be charter carrying only a few people or something since NW does not have TATL ops out EWR to my knowledge.

NWA flies EWR-AMS, right now though the aircraft is a A330.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7653 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22330 times:

I spent 11 hours of flying time (plus 2 tech stops) in a 757, twice back in 1996 and I quite enjoyed it (with the exception of having two people sitting beside me). After the first couple of hours, you don't feel any different than you would on a widebody.

[Edited 2008-11-23 15:07:19]

[Edited 2008-11-23 15:11:26]


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User currently offlineAndyDTWnwa7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22297 times:

This past easter I went with my German class to Germany. Our tour company booked us on CO DTW-TXL via EWR. (We took an ERJ-145 DTW-EWR and EWR-DTW) and EWR-TXL-EWR was on a 757. It actually wasn't that bad. Albeit im not huge (5'7'') but it was fairly comfortable. The food was good, F/A's were great, seats were comfortable, and the PTV AVOD was nice. Overall great TATL experiance (out was around 8.5 hrs, back was a little over 9)

User currently offline764 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22299 times:

Actually I recently flew one of the last NW93s from DUS to DTW. The flight did indeed take around nine hours and had the plan be full, it would have been a long flight. However, it was a slow midweek flight with a load factor of around 50% or so and hence everybody had enough room to stretch out. Actually NW's transatlantic 757s offer more legroom than their 330s and a s***load more than Continental's 757s. So actually it is not such a bad choice. There is no in-seat-video in Economy of course, but I can still remember the days when nobody had that. Not too bad really.

I was very sad to see DTW-DUS discontinued as I fly between GFK and DUS a lot and really liked connecting in DTW (I strongly dislike AMS). Oh well, that's another topic.

To answer the original question: Yes, there are 9+ hour flights on NW's 757, though only westbound (eastbound they are obviously shorter). And it's not too bad an experience either. Just don't compare it to CO's cattle cars..... (And I say this as an otherwise great fan of CO by the way!)


User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22267 times:



Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 8):
Anything from Europe to the US East coast is going to be pushing 8:00 or more scheduled time.

For example, NWA's 757 routed AMS-JFK is scheduled at 8:50 block-to-block. Therefore anything to EWR, PHL, IAD from most points in Europe is going to be 8+ hours scheduled.

I don't know how often you travel the Atlantic, but 757's have been doing the crossings for some time now. If you want to "stay away from them" it just takes a little more research on your part or a consultation with your airline/travel agent to ensure you're not booked on one.

I know that using the 757 is very popular now to Europe. I've been to Europe many times and at most travel time was 8 hours give or take and that was from Prague. 9 hours just seems like a long time from my travel history but of course its happened to people.



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 22199 times:

Finnair use B752 for LONG holiday charter flights, from Finland to all directions: Asia, South-America, North-America, Caribbean... It seems their record this winter is HEL-PTY via Halifax, total travelling time 15h 15min.
My personal record on their B752 is 6h on HEL-LPA, that was long enough ,)


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21991 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 6):
Is it just me or does that picture look like it's from FS to anyone else?

IDK how much you use FS9 or FSX, but I would LOVE for my FS9 to look like that pic.



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User currently offlineCO 757-300 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2001, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21968 times:

i flew TXL-EWR last month in the 757, i am 6'2, and i didn't get up the whole flight, not even for the bathroom. no complaints. 9 hours 10 minutes block time.

User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21907 times:

I know this is not out of EWR, but it is a long 757 flight: CO135 CDG-CLE is scheduled at 9:10. When I flew on this flight, the time between wheels off and wheels on was only 7:51 though. Still, quite a long flight on the 757.

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User currently onlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21873 times:

I almost booked NW43 AMS-IAD for an upcoming January trip but didnt think I could take 9.5 hours on a 757 do I booked a different carrier.

User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3592 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 21914 times:
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Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 5):
Possible. I just know 9 hours is ALOT of time in that thing.

I did ADA-AVB-LGS-PHL, changed planes and then PHL-SEA all in one day in 2 757s...

A long day regardless of type of aircraft......



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User currently offlineDingDong From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 21690 times:



Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 23):
I know this is not out of EWR, but it is a long 757 flight: CO135 CDG-CLE is scheduled at 9:10. When I flew on this flight, the time between wheels off and wheels on was only 7:51 though. Still, quite a long flight on the 757.

It's an even longer flight if one is stuck in a charter 757 with nonexistent seat pitch.  Silly

Though I can see tolerating a flight of that duration if with reasonable international seat pitch.



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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 21432 times:



Quoting CO 757-300 (Reply 21):
i flew TXL-EWR last month in the 757, i am 6'2, and i didn't get up the whole flight, not even for the bathroom. no complaints. 9 hours 10 minutes block time.

To be honest, that's probably not the best idea -- with the threat of DVT, you should probably get up and walk around at least once or twice to get the blood flowing in your legs.


User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 21163 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Thread starter):
Are there routes with 757's with 9 hours of flight time and if there are please let me know what they are so I can stay away from them.

If you're in Y in a 17.5" wide seat with 31-32" pitch it doesn't make any difference if it is a 757, 767, 777, 747 or a 330....I've done them all at 8hrs+ and they are all the same in terms of comfort. (and/or lack thereof).


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 21048 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 5):
Possible. I just know 9 hours is ALOT of time in that thing.

Try flying LAD-ATL with a tech stop in SID on Delta in June. That's 7001 miles without stepping foot outside of a 757. Fun stuff!



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User currently offlineRev3oh2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 141 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 20748 times:
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Have done long stretches in 707s going back a few years. Not unpleasant at all. Never done the crossing in a 757 but can't see as it would be any different, other than perhaps better.


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User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2400 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 20327 times:

The 757 is great plane, fun to fly on. But I love widebodies, and given that they're so rare domesticially nowadays, I'd seize opportunity on TATL to get on one. Then again, extra legroom or AVOD can be nice on 8+ hour flights, if not offered by the widebody alternative.

Quoting CO 757-300 (Reply 21):
i flew TXL-EWR last month in the 757, i am 6'2, and i didn't get up the whole flight, not even for the bathroom. no complaints. 9 hours 10 minutes block time.

Damn, just thinking about that hurts my bladder!  Wink



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25 Etops1 : i worked a flt from bru to phl last month and it was 9hrs on the nose. strong headwinds.
26 Planesarecool : Scandinavian operators such as Finnair, TUIfly and Air Finland operate their 757s on much longer routes, with much less legroom. Try doing Helsinki-Ph
27 L1011buff : really there is no big difference between the seats is there? And since US turned their TATL 333s into cattle cars, the 757 is probably much better
28 Andaman : They got A332 for the HEL-HKT service this winter but yes plenty of other long 757 charters still left, with the killing 29" seat pitch. Exit seats a
29 SBON : You and I must be twins. I never get up and I never complain! Oh, I also never sleep.
30 L1011buff : guess you dont drink beer on board!LOLOL and a 29inch seat pitch is barbaric!!!!!
31 Evan767 : I see you're HEL-HKT, 5000 miles, and raise you this: 7000.
32 Andaman : Yes but unfortunately reality on some European holiday charters... not just on AY 757 mentioned above.
33 Scipio : Are you one of those people who never gets up during a flight? Whether you have two aisles serving 7 seats (B767) per row or one aisle serving 6 seat
34 Modesto2 : I flew the aforementioned EWR-BCN-EWR route last week with the return segment flight time of about 8-1/2 hours. It's not horrible, but I do prefer the
35 FlyDreamliner : Airlines that put Y on the top floor of 747 - the top level of 744 is just exactly like a 757. In the old PanAm days, you could fly around the world
36 Boeing727 : Came back from AMS to CVG on a DL B757ER this fall and it took us a little over 9 hours. Actually very comfortable, even with a 2 year old. Boeing727
37 HangarRat : I did a 11-hour trip in 1997 EWR-UIO-EWR that ended up being EWR-BOG-PTY(overnight)-UIO in a CO 757. Aside from being the most irregular flight I've e
38 PlanenutzTB : My thoughts exactly. I've done them all myself, so I don't understand the concern about doing a long flight on a 757. Once your strapped into a coach
39 DingDong : I agree with some of the above, and disagree with some of it. 757 in Y is reasonably 'comfortable' if it's got a seat pitch of at least 31 inches. 75
40 YULWinterSkies : Of course it does for the 757 vs the 767, but there are also long-haul routes served by 747s, 777s with 3-4-3 abreast, and now even A380s.... Double-
41 Wjcandee : For me the only issue on TATL, particularly over the North Atlantic in Winter, is flight comfort, based on a couple of factors. I find the 757 to be a
42 Wjcandee : I actually thought of this, too, but here's how: One has to take into consideration the Clueless-Traveler factor. By that, I mean the person who stan
43 Threepoint : You have perfectly described the bane of the flying public everywhere. How easy is it to grab your overhead bag upon landing and then SIT BACK DOWN?
44 Wjcandee : Or Bouncers. In the early 1980s, there was an airline that flew DC9s to ORD and elsewhere from ACY, and later (unfortunately, because it wiped them o
45 Post contains links Upcfordcruiser : Hmm... maybe a future for "Terrible" Terry Tate, I could see him as the airline line backer. LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRkiouh5NEI
46 B707forever : I've flown on the 757 JFK-BHX-JFK and EWR-MAN-EWR (last week). Both return trips were troublesome. It wasn't the pitch, as I was in "J" class in both
47 BubbaJin : I recently traveled to the states via KLM AMS-JFK in a 744 Combi and the flight time was just over 8 hours. I returned on a NWA A330 from BOS-AMS and
48 Kappel : I flew PBM-JFK-AMS on an ATA 752 charter once (1995). It was fine, but it helped that my girlfriend and I were the only ones on the 3 seat row and th
49 TCX757330 : I have flown TCX 757 Man-Yyz numerous times longest flight time on this route was 8hr32mins and we had to divert to Ottawa for fuel as we didnt have e
50 DocLightning : *sigh* Folks, it makes no difference what kind of plane you are flying in. The seats, including materials, recline, pitch, and just about everything e
51 Kappel : You can sigh all you want, but for many people, a 757 is for many people just too narrow to fly long-haul in. A widebody has much more open space whi
52 Aircatalonia : I think this must be one of the longest non-stop TATL on a 757 right now. Proof of that are their frequent fuel diversions...
53 Andaman : EWR-BCN 3344 nm EWR-ARN 3415 nm ...any longer there?
54 Brilondon : That was back in the day when flying was an experience not an endurance test. I will bet that they had larger seat pitch and smoking lounges and food
55 DZ09 : I used to be very skeptic about flying on a 757 across the Atlantic. I have done it a few times already with CO (ewr-ham-ewr, ewr-cph-ewr, ewr-mad-ewr
56 Packcheer : Yes there are some longer..... Some of Delta's new international service beginning next summer, both on 757's from Great Circle Mapper (which also ha
57 Post contains links Andaman : Sorry but do you mix miles and nautical miles?... I got different numbers but me not any expert here. I used this site: http://gc.kls2.com/ PHL-CDG 3
58 Cubsrule : We're having a units problem; those distances are in miles. I believe airlines have operated or announced 5 nonstop 752 flights in excess of 3400nm E
59 Xdlx : Feels no different than in a Tower Air 747 or Condor 767, max density seating is the worst..... CAL has the best service TATL in Yclass
60 Packcheer : Ah yes I see, I forgot to check the box for (nm) instead of miles, My bad.... CDG-RDU is still going to be a LONG flight.
61 Andaman : Thanks for the info! So the EWR-HEL 3585nm could be possibe for 752, hoping to see CO in HEL...
62 Cubsrule : I don't know; they've upgraded TXL, which might suggest that they were having operational problems with the 752 on the route. Note that the longest r
63 LAXdude1023 : I did SJU-LAX on an AA 757. Thanks to the storms in the Carribean we had to fly around, the flying time was 8 hours and 2 minutes, vs the normal 7 and
64 Planesarecool : I'm going to assume that Delta's 757s are a LOT more comfortable than Finnair's. I spent 6 hours in a 757 with a similar configuration to Finnair's,
65 Andaman : Thats a fact but they are different products, AY's 752s are used for holiday charters primarily. They use 752 from HEL to BOS and YYZ in summer, they
66 Ikramerica : 707 flights were routinely longer than this, as were DC8 flights, so it can't be that unbearable. It's a very, very remote risk, not a "threat." Way o
67 Theginge : 757's can go a long way. Having said that an A320 can stay in the air for 7.5 hours if it has to, I know of a BMED A320 that has done FRU, hold at EVN
68 Ikramerica : Yeah, the 757 with the highest GW has about a 2 hour advantage over the best A320 and 737NG (non-VIP versions).
69 Planesarecool : Obviously, I'm just stating that 9 hours in a comfortable Continental 757 with AVOD is considerably luxurious compared to other products out there.
70 LHR777 : If some folks here have trouble in a 757 across the atlantic, you're not going to enjoy a 737-BBJ or A319 either. I flew on AC's now-cancelled A319 YY
71 RussianJet : This is not intended as any kind of provocation, just a simple question - why does that matter? Was it comfortable? Did it get you there safely and o
72 EMB170 : Did ARN-EWR on CO 69 this past summer in a 757-200. Didn't have to worry about legroom because I had the emergency exit row, but no PTVs (apparently s
73 2travel2know : Why people tend to forget those days when B707 flew JFK-EZE or transpacific with hardly any on board entertainment? I've flown severaltimes CM B737-70
74 Viscount724 : 747s pass most other types also. I recall being on a VS 747-400 a few years ago LHR-IAD and watching as we passed a US Air A330-300 that was clearly
75 Gigneil : You don't get any more personal space on a widebody. On many, you get less. NS
76 Threepoint : It makes you wonder how most of the "never-again-on-a-narrowbody" brigade would have fared 50 years ago when longhaul trips were a lot more uncomfort
77 ACDC8 : Where can I book?
78 Threepoint : I've never set foot inside a Connie, but I've been lucky enough to fly in DC-6s in some pretty incredible locations and flight profiles. There's few
79 AirWales : BRS - EWR is a CO 757 and that is not quite 9 hours but not far off. The longest I have ever done in a 757 was 5 hours and to be honest, after take of
80 Ikramerica : I've done the HAM-EWR run, and it was great. Now of course, I was in J with AVOD, so my experience is a bit skewed, but then again, I rarely ever fly
81 LAXdude1023 : The plane itself is more roomy. Im not speaking specifically about the seats. I like to spend time in the galley to strech my legs (as I mentioned, I
82 FlyASAGuy2005 : Flew on a NA 757 Norfolk to Bahrain and that SUCKED (we had a lot of stops).
83 TN757Flyer : Agreed. It's not necessarily the airplane, but the airline and how they fit the plane. Personally I think the 757 gets a bad rap. It's a great airpla
84 Richierich : I completely agree. As far as I know, 707s and VC-10s both flew 9-10 hour routes routinely. I would think that the 757, which is very similar in size
85 Viscount724 : You're overlooking that the 707, DC-8 and other early jets operated by the major scheduled airlines generally had 34 inch pitch seats in economy clas
86 TuRbUleNc3 : I did a flight from manchester to barbados via bangor maine in the mid 90's joining a cruise with Monarch on a 757. Luckily i cant remember much of it
87 LHR777 : I don't quite understand your question - I stated it just 'felt' small and insignificant, because a A319 next to a B747 is small and insignificant! I
88 LHR777 : CO, DL, NW and every other transatlantic 757 operator has a flight planning department, that is acutely aware of the limitations of the B757 on the N
89 Threepoint : Yes, we both both know that, and we also know that there isn't any more personal space in a 747 than in a 757 in the steerage section. But the averag
90 Malaysia : Yeah he probably was looking at it before the ZOOM IN and it looked jaggy, but even looks better than my FSX too, or I could try suggesting that pers
91 IAirAllie : I did EWR-BCN-EWR. It was miserable I think CO makes their 757 seats out of cement.
92 Brilondon : If you are in any kind of shape you should not get DVT. Only people with bad circulation would actually be indanger of DVT. This is a problem with th
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