Allrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2757 posts, RR: 5 Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 21126 times:
It's time to celebrate the Australian Aviation Threads 21st! Unfortunately, VAustralia isn't able to take advantage of this auspicious occasion to have a piss-up upon arrival at LAX, but I'm sure the schoolies on the Gold Coast are drinking right now on it's behalf.
I'd recap what went on in our last thread but am utterly sleep deprived from my newborn son and don't wish to overstimulate myself by reading it. That shouldn't stop you, however, so let's get this party started!
Smi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 21045 times:
Glad to see another new destination, just wish we could get some more here in Melbourne, although perhaps Perth is in more need.
Qantas commences non-stop services from Sydney to Buenos Aires Latest News
Sydney, 24 November 2008
Qantas today became the first airline to operate non-stop services between Australia and South America.
The inaugural Sydney to Buenos Aires flight left Sydney this morning and is scheduled to land in Buenos Aires at 11.00am local time.
Qantas Group General Manager Sales and Distribution, Mr Rob Gurney, said response to the new Buenos Aires services had been very positive.
"Argentina is a popular destination for Australian travellers and we are seeing continued passenger growth between Australia and South America," he said.
"These new services will enable us to grow business and leisure travel to and from Argentina and strengthen tourism and trade links.
"They will also offer passengers connections to other destinations in South America, including Brazil."
Qantas will operate three return services per week on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays, using three-class B747-400 aircraft.
The airline previously offered one-stop services to Buenos Aires, via Auckland, between 1998 and 2002.
"We have maintained services to South America via our successful codeshare with oneworld™ partner LAN since then and will continue to offer six services per week from Sydney via Auckland to Santiago, Chile," Mr Gurney said.
777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12944 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 20889 times:
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I've been told that FJs OOL-NAN route bookings isn't doing well. Next month FJ will operate 9x B738 services offering a total of 1458 seats. Only problem is 900 of those seats havn't been sold, so only 558 seats have been sold. This works out to 62 pax per flight on a 162 seat B738. Rumor is FJ is going to replace the B738 with B737-700 on all 9 flights.
TN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 1030 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 20880 times:
DJMEL, thank you for the info re my request on previous thread. After your reply I checked out QF timetable Launceston Melbourne and do have in fact QF 2286 (dash8-300) 1700- 1820 which fits with DJ 8286. Thanks again.
On another note, just looked out the sitting room window after hearing the unmistakeable throb of 4 engines on an EK340 on its approach from the south into melbourne (summer time 2020hrs), twilight and it makes a beutiful sight turning right and setting up for approach, last vestiges of sun glinting on the fuselage, yummy.You know the world is still OK when you see sights like that. (now, now, be nice!!). Too high for this amateur photographer, still 20 mins to touchdown.
remember the t shirt "I own an airline"on the front - "qantas" on the back
Allrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2757 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 20811 times:
Quoting TN486 (Reply 2): Congrats mate, is it your first. If not you are a tiger for punishment (relating to sleep deprivation that is). Kids are a joy, have a long and happy one.
Thank you! Yes, he's my first. I'm hoping to infect him with the travel bug as soon as possible and was doing some research on flying with infants. Interestingly, with both QF and JQ infants fly free domestically. In Qantas there is a charge for international flights, but with JQ infants fly free trans-tasman and to Japan, though not elsewhere. Trans-tasman I can understand - it's virtually domestic anyway - but why the Japanese exception? (Not that I'm complaining seeing as its my favourite destination).
Aussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 20670 times:
Things not too healthy at QF with a wide range of flights looking to be chopped or cut. Clearly announcements of whats being cut is yet to be announced.
My money would be a cut to LAX and LHR flights along with MEL to PVG for starters.
Qantas slashes profit forecast, cuts capacity
Qantas has just announced capacity cuts equivalent to grounding ten aircraft, with outgoing ceo Geoff Dixon saying the global financial crisis was continuing to affect passenger demand.
"We are in unpredictable times and the international business market, in particular, has slowed," he said.
The capacity cuts are in addition to reductions announced earlier this year, and will include halting all planned domestic market growth for both Qantas and Jetstar.
QF will also not take up the planned lease of two A330-200 aircraft and will change the flying patterns of existing aircraft "to free up the equivalent of six B747-400s, three B767-300s and one A320-200 aircraft between now and mid-2010".
Dixon said the carrier's actual flying in the next six months will be four percent below the equivalent period in 2008, and said that although no further job cuts were expected the carrier would "be seeking further efficiencies by implementing an accelerated leave program."
He said the slower demand meant Qantas was now expecting a pre-tax profit for 2008-09 of around $500 million.
VHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5534 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 20660 times:
Brisbane Airport profit up 23 per cent
BRISBANE Airport Corporation's net profit rose by 23 per cent to $91.6 million in 2007-08.
But officials have warned a major runway and domestic terminal expansion may be affected by the credit crunch.
The airport, which handled a record 18.5 million passengers in 2007-08, has substantially completed a $350 million international terminal expansion.
It is now looking at expanding the domestic terminal precinct, due to be completed progressively by 2012, and building a new parallel runway, expected to open in 2018.
Chief financial officer Tim Rothwell said the corporation was strongly positioned at June 30 with $320 million of unused facilities and $93 million in cash, but funding of the major projects was a challenge and neither would proceed beyond the design stage until commercial terms were agreed and funding was in place.
GarethW From New Zealand, joined Apr 2006, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20508 times:
Quoting REALDEAL (Reply 12): don't think a 332 could do BNE/LAX (with any pax) & esp not LAX/BNE.
Quoting 777ER (Reply 13): The A332s range is 12500kms and BNE-LAX is 11525kms. The A332 could even do SYD-LAX according to its range
I agree REALDEAL, theoretically yes the A332 could fly those legs but not profitably. A 77E/77W on the other hand....... but thats a whole other story, and a whole lot of ground that's been covered on here this year!
Sydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3647 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 20465 times:
Quoting Aussie747 (Reply 8): My money would be a cut to LAX and LHR flights along with MEL to PVG for starters.
The other thing to contemplate with the 744's retirement is that QF are receiving A380's through next year. So its more a case of replacing 744's to LHR with A380's rather than actually cutting routes. Certainly the 3rd daily LAX service from SYD that QF flies occassionally will drop off. I'd also not be surprised to see a couple of frequency reductions to places like PVG and maybe Mumbai along with some trans tasman capacity cuts. But overall they are not predicting a significant decline in fleet capacity due to the A380's coming along so I don't think there will be much room for cuts.
ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5543 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20338 times:
Are they actually retiring those 6 744s and 3 763s or just reducing flights and utilization? Currently the 744 fleet is maxed out same with the 763 I guess.
I doubt they will cut LHR flights, maybe a few LAX services as you say the third SYD-LAX will go anyway I think, maybe BNE-LAX non stop reduced and routed via AKL a few days and MEL-AKL-LAX reduced as more A380s on non stop MEL-LAX come online with AKL-LAX remaining daily with 4 weekly MEL-AKL-LAX and 3 weekly BNE-AKL-LAX with a mix of 744s and 332s or maybe 332s daily?
Alangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 20282 times:
UK Chancellor of the Exchequer Alistair Darling, who had been considering replacing the Air Passenger Duty with a direct "per-plane" fee levied on airlines, yesterday made the surprise announcement that the APD will remain under a new scheme that will impose ascending fees on passengers based on the distance travelled to/from UK airports.
Darling explained to parliament that he has developed "a four-band [APD] system ensuring those that travel further and have a larger environmental impact meet that cost. . .This will be effective in reducing emissions from aviation."
Band A, covering EU flights, will rise from the current £10 ($14.90) each way to £11 on Nov. 1, 2009, and to £12 in November 2010. Band B, for flights up to 4,000 mi. (covering, for example, US flights), will increase from £40 one-way to £45, then to £60. Band C, covering longer distances including Caribbean flights, will lift from £40 one-way to £50, then £75. Band D, covering the longest flights such as those to Asia, will increase from £40 one-way to £60, then £85. APDs on premium passengers will be double those rates.
85 pounds is going to be a huge tax on travel to/from Australia/NZ. This tax is a punishment for flying. So the incentive for Qantas will be to move all their flights to Europe to Frankfurt or Paris, and all passengers will catch A320s to finish their flight to the UK. You will need three A320s to feed all the passengers onto one A380 - surely three departures/arrivals at LHR would be less environment friendly than one?
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 6266 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 20242 times:
Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 20): 85 pounds is going to be a huge tax on travel to/from Australia/NZ. This tax is a punishment for flying. So the incentive for Qantas will be to move all their flights to Europe to Frankfurt or Paris, and all passengers will catch A320s to finish their flight to the UK
There are a couple of other ways it could go.
It makes DXB look good as a hub, as it's in band B and can be done non stop from Oz, which CDG or FRA can't.
The Oz government could decide to fight it. In which case it could impose a reciprocal tax on BA and give the proceeds to QF to compensate them. I don't think this would even require legislation as I think this sort of thing was covered under the 1980s "claw back" laws, but even if it does I don't see it as a problem.
Aviation still works on BI-LATERAL agreements, ironically enough mainly at the insistence of the UK, pollies would do well to remember that.
Sydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3647 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 20192 times:
Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 18): Are they actually retiring those 6 744s and 3 763s or just reducing flights and utilization?
From the sounds of it they are reducing utilisation rather than retiring. Certainly it would be good for QF to have some spare capacity sitting around the place.
Quoting Ben175 (Reply 19): Could we see PER-NRT and PER-HKG gone soon?
PER-NRT will stay. PER-HKG could be marginal depending on traffic although PER would probably still be a strong performer given the economy hasn't really put a lid on mining activity just yet apart from some Iron Ore cuts.
Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 20): This will be effective in reducing emissions from aviation."
This will be effective in raising revenue to help the British Government funds its record deficits. It'll do nothing for aviation.
Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 22): BOM could well go, given that only 45% of traffic currently travels direct on QF metal, the remaining traffic connecting on 9W over SIN.
QF should be daily to BOM if they were serious about capturing traffic. 3 per week was never going to cut it long term.
: QF's 747-300, inlight of the huge downturn, are now almost worthless on the used market.
: And before the downturn they were probably worthless becuase of the cost of fuel and their age!
: This morning Air Asia X launched flights ex KL to London Stansted x 5 weekly. Sale fares from $260 one way until 30/11/08 for travel 11/03/09 through
: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...story/0,28124,24707419-643,00.html More info on the Qantas mainline cuts. In summary - - No planes to leave the
: Please note that the first part of my last post was a quote from the British Government announcement. Important thing to notice - it is a tax on passe
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: What if QF changed the flight numbers for instance if SYD-BKK became QF 100 and BKK-LHR became QF 1? How would tax be calculated on this? Would taxes
: I relisied that, the point is still its a uni-lateral decision in a bi-lateral environment. Other governments can take retaliatory actions, whether t
: HNL going to an ALL JQ operation would make sense. I reckon MEL-PVG will go, but I reckon BOM will stay. Or perhaps the 333 MEL-HKG leg could be cut
: Friends and I were going to spend a day on London on either side of our trip to Croatia next year but this additional tax makes Frankfurt, Rome or Du
: NZ does it every thu, now an Australian tour operator is auctioning seats to USA,Canada & Japan on ebay.com.au Don't have the links, but search for Qa
: Australia and Asia are in the same band. This is why Emirates and Etihad passengers would pay a lower cost. Qantas would need to make Dubai their sto
: Air Asia X have always said that they are not selling through travel from Australia to UK. You would have to book separate sectors Aus - KUL, then KUL
: Yes but they are Low Cost! I agree with: Anyway on a brighter note it seems like the whispers were correct: VIRGIN BLUE PREMIUM ECONOMY GETS AN UPGRA
: LoL...typical PR! I think the product should do well, especially as it is cheaper than QF's full economy price. So for less than the full flex Y QF t
: It looks like Garuda Indonesia won't be commencing services to Brisbane come 14DEC (all flights have been zeroed out until APR09). Supposedly forward
: or price sensitive pax will simple get to AMS or CDG or somewhere else in Europe to fly to OZ, so UK govt won't get any revenue out of them. They are
: Good news for Pac Blue I would imagine!
: Qantas - Changes to bookings to/from Thailand The Thai government has advised us that on 24 November 2008, the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD)