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User currently offlineEyeSky From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 312 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3475 times:
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Can anyone tell me how many 720's Pan Am had in their fleet and what routes they operated them on? I flew BOS-BDA-BOS on a Pan Am 720 back in '73 and if I recall correctly they picked up some ex-Lufthansa aircraft. Did they purchase/lease 720's from anyone else?

Thanks in advance for your help on this.

EyeSky

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User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3425 times:

To the best of my recollection, Pan Am had a total of 9 720-B's, all of which were delivered directly from Boeing. They were used in both the Caribbean and Latin American routes as well as BOS/BDA/BOS. The JFK/BDA/JFK flight was always operated with a 707 back then as this a/c was scheduled to turn to PA002 that evening JFK/LHR and round the world in a special 32/96 config.

Rgds,
Ed



Ed
User currently offlineXdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

I saw a couple of those in SJU in early 70's.

User currently offlineSimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 918 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Great question, thanks for asking it! On a similar vein, where did the 707-120s end up flying after the -320s had all arrived? I'd imagine similar flights.

User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3806 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

Pan Am operated a total of 9 720Bs at various times from 1963 to 1974. Three ex-American 720-023Bs were leased from Patricia Leasing Corporation, from 1963, then bought from same in 1964. The other six were purchased from Lufthansa. Here's a synopsis of the history of each 720B ever operated by Pan Am:

N780PA 720-023B del. new to AA; leased then owned by PA 1963-74
N781PA same as N780PA
N782PA same as N780PA except withdrawn from use in 1972, then sold in 1974
N783PA 720-030B del. new to LH, PA bought 1964, sold to Avianca 1973
N784PA same as N783PA
N785PA 720-030B del. new to LH, PA bought 1966, sold to Ariana Afghan 1973
N786PA 720-030B del. new to LH, PA bought 1965, sold to Avianca 1972
N787PA 720-030B del. new to LH, PA bought 1966, sold to Alia Royal Jordanian 1972
N788PA 720-030B del. new to LH, PA bought 1965, sold to Alia Royal Jordanian 1972

Unfortunately, Pan Am timetables (like American's) issued during the years they operated 720Bs did not distinguish between 707 and 720 models  In fact, during the years Pan Am's fleet included 707s, 720Bs and DC-8-30s the ultra-generic designation "Jet" covered all three in their timetables. Although, suffice it to say, the fan-engined 720B (as operated by Pan Am) was known to have a good "hot and high" performance and was conceived especially for routes too thin traffic-wise to support the larger 707s and DC-8s, so put these two strengths of the 720B together and one can well imagine the routes on which they would have served, even if the timetables leave us guessing. It is also interesting to note that, for a time, the 720B could claim to have the longest range of any commercial aircraft type.

[Edited 2008-11-24 12:10:12]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25700 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3091 times:



Quoting Clipper002 (Reply 1):
To the best of my recollection, Pan Am had a total of 9 720-B's, all of which were delivered directly from Boeing.

Not correct. All were acquired used, 3 from AA and 6 from LH.

As you mention, they were almost exclusively used on Caribbean and Latin America routes.


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User currently offlineEyeSky From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3060 times:
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Thanks for the info - much appreciated!

EyeSky


User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

Hello EyeSky, well, we used to have those magnificent Pan Am´s 720s at MEX all the time.

I flew " Jet Clipper Bonita " , N782PA, between MEX nd HOU, many, many times during those glamorous and flamboyant sixties !!!

You just can´t imagine how much I miss Pan Am, my favourite airline ever !!!

The attached photo of N782PA was taken by myself from the viewing deck at MEX in 1966. Sorry for the poor quality, I hope you enjoy it, anyways ...

...

Wow, Pan Am´s " Jet Clipper Bonita " at MEX back in 1966 !!!



Best regards


Well, it looks like something went wrong in uploading my photo, so here we go once again. Apologies all around !!!

[Edited 2008-11-24 13:45:10]


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User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Allthough normally served by the 707-320 I can recall seeing the occasional 720B as a kid in TPA on the MIA-TPA-MID-MEX and return route in the late 60's early 70's.

Regards

LGA777


User currently offlineBluemeatball From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

My ultimate ride was in August of 1970 from SAO (VCP) to IAH via GIG, BSB, PTY, GUA, and MEX. This was a Sat only flight (#502) that allowed for connections in PTY to MIA or LAX.

User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8437 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2802 times:
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Did Pan AM fly the 720's from MIami to BAQ during their tenure at PA?

User currently offlineA999 From Norway, joined Mar 2004, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2560 times:

PanAm's B720B fleet with 18.000 lb JT3D-3 engines,range 5000 st.miles

Mfr.no. 18033 N780PA Clipper Carib
18036 781 Flying Arrow
18937 782 Desoto
18057 783 Bonita
18059 784 Panama
18060 785 Balboa
18248 786 Winged Arrow
18259 787 Guiding Star
18251 788 Nonparel


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