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User currently offlineLXA333 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 287 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6839 times:

Will we ever see Thai return to New York since crude oil prices have dropped? Also, what would be considered the best route to take from New York to BKK?


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17126 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6826 times:



Quoting LXA333 (Thread starter):
Also, what would be considered the best route to take from New York to BKK?

Maybe via Europe or NYC-LAX-BKK, or NYC-SIN-BKK. There are a lot of options. Depends on which alliance/carriers you prefer.



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6711 times:

Even at the best of times, that route for TG was very low yielding so I would think it is pretty unlikely unless TG USA Sales has managed to somehow miraculously work their magic with revenue management.


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User currently offlineEconojetter From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 430 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6711 times:

Fares tend to be lower if you fly transpacific.

One-stop services NYC-BKK:

Japan Airlines or All Nippon JFK-NRT-BKK
Continental/Northwest EWR-NRT-BKK (probably CO/UA combination later next year)
Korean or Asiana JFK-ICN-BKK
Cathay Pacific JFK-HKG-BKK

or you could go via Taipei with China Airlines or EVA Air (out of EWR), but with these two you'll get an extra refueling stop in ANC


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6643 times:



Quoting Econojetter (Reply 3):
One-stop services NYC-BKK:

Japan Airlines or All Nippon JFK-NRT-BKK
Continental/Northwest EWR-NRT-BKK (probably CO/UA combination later next year)
Korean or Asiana JFK-ICN-BKK
Cathay Pacific JFK-HKG-BKK

Not forgetting...
Egypt Air BKK-CAI-JFK
Qatar Airways BKK-DOH-JFK
Emirates BKK-DXB-JFK
Etihad Airways BKK-AUH-JFK
Kuwait Airways BKK-KWI-JFK

However I do not know if these services connect to one another. Im sure the Emirates services will come close as they operate multiple operations to both Cities.

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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3009 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6588 times:



Quoting B742 (Reply 4):

you can add
LH via FRA
BA via LHR
AF via CDG
KL via AMS
TK via IST
to that list as they also offer good connections with only 2-3h layover at their respective hub.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6389 times:



Quoting LXA333 (Thread starter):
Will we ever see Thai return to New York since crude oil prices have dropped?

not nonstop, in the foreseeable/conceivable future... but perhaps someday.


User currently offlineSRT75 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6192 times:



Quoting LXA333 (Thread starter):
Will we ever see Thai return to New York since crude oil prices have dropped?

The price of crude may not be a driving factor. The strength of the Thai economy during the recession would be a big factor.

How much O/D between NYC (EWR and JFK) and BKK? If there's going to be less business traffic, that would make reviving the route less attractive.


User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5891 times:



Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Not forgetting...
Egypt Air BKK-CAI-JFK
Qatar Airways BKK-DOH-JFK
Emirates BKK-DXB-JFK
Etihad Airways BKK-AUH-JFK
Kuwait Airways BKK-KWI-JFK

However I do not know if these services connect to one another. Im sure the Emirates services will come close as they operate multiple operations to both Cities.

I don't think these are transpacs, which is what Econojetter was referring to...



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User currently offlineB767300ER From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 184 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5451 times:
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An interesting routinmg via El Al, JFK-TLV-BKK.

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17126 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5330 times:



Quoting B767300ER (Reply 9):
An interesting routinmg via El Al, JFK-TLV-BKK.

Well another interesting is via SK and TG or only SK all the way EWR-ARN-BKK, or EWR-CPH-BKK



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User currently offlineTriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 760 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5161 times:
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There is also AA JFK-NRT and connect to JL NRT-BKK. These are both Oneworld partners


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User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5002 times:

I flew NYC-BKK a lot of time.. usually did JFK-NRT-BKK or JFK-LHR-BKK.
I think one of the fast way to go to BKK from NYC is to go via ARN:
EWR-ARN-BKK (by SK, TG or SK all the way in some season)
from BKK to NYC... I still think that go through NRT, ICN, HKG are all almost the same and pretty fast.


User currently offlinePVG From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2004, 727 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4951 times:

If you're flying C class, can go SQ: EWR-SIN-BKK one stop as well!

User currently offlineJoemugg From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

My vote is on EWR-SIN-BKK. In C class.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3667 times:

Here is a rather exotic paring.

Olympic Airways A340-300, Thai Airways 777-300
JFK-ATH-BKK

Aeroflot 767 and IL-96*
JFK-SVO-BKK


Iberia A340-600, Thai Airways 747-400
JFK-MAD-BKK





* I've done one that myself


To bad LAX is the only US city getting Thai Airways service.
I'd love it if they came here to San Francisco.



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3660 times:

I have done JFK-BKK (TG) ATL-FRA-KUL-BKK, EWR-ARN-KUL-BKK, IAD-JFK-JED-BKK, IAD-LHR-FRA-BKK, LAS-BOS-LHR-BKK etc but I do not really feel more comfortable than just going Trans-Pacific even from the East Coast. The last time I did eastbound CI JFK-ANC-TPE-BKK was a bit of a nuisance, the wake up call in ANC... is a turn-off for me. cause I like sleeping all the way. And the sleep portion of the east bound Europe connection can be a little hard sleeping only 3-4 hours on plane then layover in Europe a bit then finally get sleep again on the SE Asia leg.

Best route from JFK I took would be JL JFK-NRT-BKK, that was decent for me, if you want an international departure out of JFK.



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User currently offlineLXA333 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 days ago) and read 3451 times:

Thanks guys, I'll probably be looking at a route via Europe most likely ARN, ZRH or LHR. I'll be flying Y by the way since I'm only a student and do not wish to be spoiled to the parents hehe.

Do companies charge more if when I come back I want to stop in Europe for a week?

Thanks



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17126 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 days ago) and read 3442 times:



Quoting LXA333 (Reply 17):
I'll probably be looking at a route via Europe most likely ARN, ZRH or LHR. I'll be flying Y by the way since I'm only a student and do not wish to be spoiled to the parents hehe.

Well if you are flying in Y I would recommend BA for you, JFK-LHR-BKK.
If you want try something not so common I would go EWR-ARN-BKK. That is a nice routing, and ARN is a nice airport, so no stress or anything like that compared to LHR.



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User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1857 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3297 times:



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 5):
you can add
LH via FRA
BA via LHR
AF via CDG
KL via AMS
TK via IST
to that list as they also offer good connections with only 2-3h layover at their respective hub.

Flying USA-BKK via CDG with AF is not really an option as the layover in CDG will be very long. With the notable exception of AF067 LAX-CDG which arrives at 5:30 pm, almost all other USA flights arrive in CDG between 6:00 am and noon. And the AF flight to BKK departs CDG only at 7:35 pm.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40035 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

Pardon my laziness, but what are the layover times for the routes I suggested?


Olympic Airways A340-300, Thai Airways 777-300
JFK-ATH-BKK

Aeroflot 767 and IL-96*
JFK-SVO-BKK


Iberia A340-600, Thai Airways 747-400
JFK-MAD-BKK


It might be worth it to get some cool aircraft types and possibly some exotic carriers as well.



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User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3066 times:



Quoting LXA333 (Reply 17):
Do companies charge more if when I come back I want to stop in Europe for a week?

I have done that once with SQ (bought through travel agent) and another time with BA (from their website)
-I did EWR-AMS/CDG-SIN-BKK, at the time SQ flew EWR-AMS but you can still do the same on their JFK-FRA, then fly out from any other place SQ flies to in Europe.
-I did BA and stop at both Paris and London (add another short hop between LHR-CDG) when i did JFK-LHR-BKK
I think the way to get this cheap is to do through travel agent. If you try to do stop over from airlines website it usually is super expensive.

I also like to stop by Tokyo sometimes when i did JFK-NRT-BKK because the flight is pretty long (almost 14 hrs on JFK-NRT) but much shorter the other way around.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
what are the layover times for the routes I suggested?

Most TG flights leave Europe around noon time (except Munich and Moscow) so if you fly from the east coast and arrive Europe before 11am should make the connection.


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

And a speciality for those MD-11 lovers on AY website: JFK-HEL-BKK  Wink
MD-11 still available on JFK-HEL this winter season, will be replaced by A333 next spring. The AY connection means a LONG layover in HEL, plenty of time for sight seeing...


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17126 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2727 times:



Quoting Andaman (Reply 22):
The AY connection means a LONG layover in HEL, plenty of time for sight seeing...

Too much time for spotting  Wink But that is a interesting routing



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User currently offlineDennys From France, joined May 2001, 895 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

my vote is for EWR SIN BKK C CLASS either !!

dennys


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7619 posts, RR: 42
Reply 25, posted (6 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2266 times:



Quoting Econojetter (Reply 3):
Continental/Northwest EWR-NRT-BKK (probably CO/UA combination later next year)

Actuallly the new DL is bringing back JFK-NRT, so JFK-NRT-BKK will be now possible.



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