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LOT Transatlantic Service Cuts?  
User currently offlineKochamLOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 301 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4526 times:

I have not seen or heard of any LOT transatlantic cuts but flights from Poland to the US and Canada are less and less. I understand 2 older 762s have been given back but they still have I think at least 4 763s.

My parents are headed to Poland and the travel agent said that LOT has been cutting flights to every other day (from ORD).

Chicago is their most important transatlantic destination and in the summer they can have up to 3 flights to ORD from KRK and WAW.
Me and another airline nutjob like myself went for a stroll in the international terminal and saw that LOT had cancelled BOTH flights from Poland to ORD.
I checked flightaware these past 2 weeks rarely seeing an ORD-Polska route.
I usually see 1 763 to PL from NewYork or toronto.

Anybody know whats up?

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User currently offlineKonrad From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4261 times:

I did KRK-ORD-KRK back in October and both flights were full and on-time.

Maybe those are just the seasonal cuts - November being the low season - or they have a technical problem with one of their 763s again. The two 762s SP-LOA and LOB are gone.


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3516 times:

Just a slight update of LOT's transatlantic programme for next summer.

10 weekly Warsaw - New York JFK
Daily Warsaw - Newark
11 weekly Warsaw - Chicago
Daily Warsaw - Toronto
1 weekly Krakow - New York JFK
1 weekly Krakow - Newark
6 weekly Krakow - Chicago
1 weekly Rzeszow - New York JFK
1 weekly Rzeszow - Newark


Source: http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/

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User currently offlineLH431 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3448 times:



Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
1 weekly Krakow - New York JFK
1 weekly Krakow - Newark
1 weekly Rzeszow - New York JFK
1 weekly Rzeszow - Newark

Is there really demand for once-a-week flights???
And what about Rzeszow/Reichshof?  Confused Or is it via KRK, but with same-plane/flight number



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33035 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3371 times:



Quoting LH431 (Reply 5):

Is there really demand for once-a-week flights???

Yes.

Quoting LH431 (Reply 5):
And what about Rzeszow/Reichshof? Confused Or is it via KRK, but with same-plane/flight number

No, it is non-stop. This has been operating for about 2 years now.



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User currently offlineUzzzer From Ukraine, joined Dec 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3291 times:



Quoting LH431 (Reply 5):
And what about Rzeszow/Reichshof? Confused Or is it via KRK, but with same-plane/flight number

This is a smart marketing move for LO. Besides aiming at Malopolska/Podkarpacie Polish clients, many travelers are also from Western Ukraine. Lviv - the biggest city in the region is just 180 km from RZE.


User currently offlineKochamLOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

Reducing regional routes?
What will happen to the e170/5s they have then?

Whats the use of MORE regional flights? Who other than bussiness man can afford to fly 1-350 miles for a flight and for the ticket price that it would cost.

I have family who take a bus to London to save money (which i think is too bad) but I doubt too many people could make that work.

Plus the only aircraft other than those jetstreams are embraer brasilias that could do the job.

Why did LOT get rid of the e145s?


User currently offlineKochamLOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

back to the transatlantic topic though, I only see 2 flights between PL and N. America; LOT does have more than 2 767s....I thought they had 4 or 5 763s!? no?

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2754 times:



Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 7):
back to the transatlantic topic though, I only see 2 flights between PL and N. America; LOT does have more than 2 767s....I thought they had 4 or 5 763s!? no?

Are you using flightaware? It sometimes doesn't show TATL flights.

I show 3 flights today.

LOT5 EPKK-KORD
LOT11 EPWA-KEWR
LOT41 EPWA-CYYZ



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User currently offlineKochamLOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

yeah. i use flightaware. is there any other flighttracker for tatl flights?

User currently offlineKonrad From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2426 times:



Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 7):
back to the transatlantic topic though, I only see 2 flights between PL and N. America; LOT does have more than 2 767s....I thought they had 4 or 5 763s!? no?

The are left with 5 763 - LPA, LPB, LPC, LPE and LPF. Due to reduced demand the winter schedule is operated with 3 763 (20 weekly rotations from Poland to the US/Canada). Remaining two aircraft are either wet-leased for some charters or in storage at WAW. It is interesting to see what happens for summer 2009 season, since 762s - LOA and LOB - are gone, LOT needs to get two extra 763s to offer the same number of flights as this past summer.

Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 6):
Why did LOT get rid of the e145s?

Not economical nowadays, much better performance with 170/175. Not to mention the comfort.

Also, on some fairly long routes (WAW-MAN comes to mind) ER4 had to make a fuel stop now and then if the flight was full and got strong headwings.


User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

Toronto has a strong Polish immigrant population so Warsaw - Toronto isn't in any danger of being cut....

Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 7):
LOT does have more than 2 767s....I thought they had 4 or 5 763s!? no?

AC which used to codeshare LOT flights just dumped their remaining 767-200s. Not sure how many 762s LOT has left but LOT was an early customer for 767s so their 767-200s must be getting old...



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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1896 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2261 times:



Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 11):
Not sure how many 762s LOT has left but LOT was an early customer for 767s so their 767-200s must be getting old...

LOs 762s are gone. One is already with MX, the other is about to join in shortly.
LOs 763s will remain until 787s arrive. If this "airline" does not go out of business before then...



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2139 times:



Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 9):
is there any other flighttracker for tatl flights?

No; I used a combination of the Star timetable and airport websites. Flightaware would be a lot easier...if it worked.



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