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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1983 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

Hello everyone, I have a few questions regarding AC's YVR ops. I am curious to what international flights leave from the domestic terminal (C gates) at YVR. I am under the impression that AC033 departs for SYD from the domestic gate, because it arrives in from YYZ first. If the flight were to depart from the international side, PAX would either have to get off the aircraft and the aircraft towed to the International side, or the inbound YYZ flight would have to disembark and clear international customs (not happening). I do know the inbound flight however does go to the international side and everyone has to disembark.

So how about flights AC001 to NRT that now goes YYZ-YVR-NRT? or AC025 that flights YYZ-YVR-PVG? Where do these flights depart? International or Domestic?

Thanks for your help!


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User currently offlinePowercube From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3530 times:



Quoting ZBBYLW (Thread starter):
(C gates)

AC033 and 034 usually use gate D51, which is great for departing, but an agonizingly long walk to customs and immigration for the arrival. Not sure about the other two.


User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1983 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3512 times:



Quoting Powercube (Reply 1):
AC033 and 034 usually use gate D51, which is great for departing, but an agonizingly long walk to customs and immigration for the arrival. Not sure about the other two.

So if I were to be departing to SYD, I would go through International check in and head to D51 and they would just slide the sliding glass over after all the YVR guests have disembarked their flight? This actually does make alot of sense!



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3430 times:



Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 2):
So if I were to be departing to SYD, I would go through International check in and head to D51 and they would just slide the sliding glass over after all the YVR guests have disembarked their flight? This actually does make alot of sense!

On the SYD flight, the aircraft leaves from the domestic terminal in YYZ, so everyone disembarks in YVR and go through emmigration. C & D gates actually connect and theres no wall or doorway, theres a desk in the walkway just past the last C gate which is manned by regular YVR personnel which stops domestic pax going through to international. How emmigration is handled Im not too sure as Ive always terminated in YVR, but I always assumed it was done at the gate or at that desk by AC.

Some of the other 767 flights are towed from the domestic gates to international or US gates once domestic pax has disembarked.



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User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3385 times:



Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 2):
So if I were to be departing to SYD, I would go through International check in and head to D51

No, if you were originating in YVR for Australia, you would check in at the domestic terminal.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24868 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3363 times:



Quoting Threepoint (Reply 4):
No, if you were originating in YVR for Australia, you would check in at the domestic terminal.

How would YVR-SYD passengers be expected to know that? They would assume that since YVR-SYD is an international flight they should be checking-in at the same place as other international flights.


User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3339 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
How would YVR-SYD passengers be expected to know that? They would assume that since YVR-SYD is an international flight they should be checking-in at the same place as other international flights.

Because if they book using Air Canada's website, the message telling them to do so screams loudly at them in red lettering. If they use a decent travel agent, then they would be advised by him/her. Finally, upon arriving at the airport, the overhead screens would indicate where to check in for every flight. Worst case scenario: they walk a hundred metres down the hall.

How would you know if your AC flight from say, LAX leaves from terminal 2 or 3 or the international terminal? After all, your flight to Canada is an international one. How many travelers make the distinction between international and transborder?



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User currently offlineJessb From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

I flew out of YVR to LHR this summer. We were booked on the later flight and our inbound aircraft was an A330 from YYZ. So she arrived at gate 51, which for most of day, was off limits to international passengers. (Cunningly sealed off with a sign and a security guard to point the lost international passengers back the way he came.) within the hour the aicraft was turned around and we boarded. I assume that they use a similar system to seal off gate 52 as well.

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User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2226 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

YVR and YYZ and other new airports also have swing gates. They can be moved back and forth from different sectors by closing off glass doors and/or directing inbound passengers to secure hygenic corridors. For example an inbound flight may need Canada Customs. For an outbound flight that same gate may be used for a US departure where passengers have already precleared customs. By opening and closing doors the passengers can be kept separated from the general passengers but it gives the airport the flexibility to swing gates back and forth according to volume.

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2908 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
How would YVR-SYD passengers be expected to know that? They would assume that since YVR-SYD is an international flight they should be checking-in at the same place as other international flights.

This is how (6th flight down from top)....



.... besides, I don't think there is anyone around the AC International check-in at that time of day.



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User currently offlineCgagn From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2872 times:

I was just in YVR the other morning and saw the flight from SYD arrive. It pulled into gate C51, which is one of a few gates that can be used to international or domestic flights. The arriving passengers are funnelled off to customs then that door is closed and the doors from the domestic side are opened and passengers can enter the departure lounge ready for boarding to YYZ.

Also, as has been mentioned, the AC website says to check in domestically for the YVR-SYD segment when you book, then it's on the departure board when you arrive at the airport and if you still end up in the international check in there's signs around that say passengers to SYD must check over at the domestic area so there's plenty of ways for even the dumbest passenger to make their way over to domestic departures to check in.

C-GAGN



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User currently offlineKdonohue From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

A few years ago, I departed YVR on LTU from the domestic terminal. I believe Thomas Cook also used the domestic terminal that day. This was before the new international wing, and most of the international gates were full.

K.


User currently offlineQblue From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

During summer European charters that stops in YYC or other Canadian city departs from domestic departures. It can be so busy in the summer time due to the Alaska cruise ships that some European charters must off load in remote parking and get bussed in.

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

So, how does it work with Duty Free shopping before the YVR-SYD flights? Not that anything is open there so late, but if they were to change the departure time into the afternoon for arguments sake.

I remember that there was always a big stink when CP operated their YVR-YYC-LHR and FRA flights, they sold domestic seats (YVR-YYC) on the flight but even though it departed from the very old international C gates, passengers flying to LHR or FRA could not purchase duty free because the YVR-YYC portion was a domestic flight.



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User currently offlinePictues From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

Q Blue that was before the expansion at YVR now they don;t do that, nor do they offload at international and tow to domestic for departure anymore

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

This is going years back, in the Canada3000 days. Shortly after YVR opened up the new international/US terminals in 96, I flew with 2T from DUS-KEF-YYC-YVR. When we got into YYC, we had to wait out a thunderstorm and developed a mechanical issue with one of the engines. After all the YYC bound passengers got through customs, the airline decided in order to save us some time, we could go through customs in YYC, the aircraft would be towed to a domestic gate and board there. Once we got into YVR, we just had to go to the baggage claim and be on our way. When we arrived in YVR, we pulled up to the new international terminal (don't remember which gate) and just followed the hallway to the C gate pier, down the stairs and into the domestic baggage claim area. So, I guess this would be a similar scenario to the swing gates that the SYD flight uses.


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