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Could QF Sustain SYD/MEL-LAX-LHR?  
User currently offlineQantasistheway From Australia, joined May 2008, 318 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

So what do you think, I would certainly like it as a different option to going via Asia and QF have established themselves quite well, so far they have put the LAX-LHR leg to BA but do you think they could do it on their own metal like Air New Zealand. I realise this is a very long routeing so that's why I'm asking. I am not sure of the technicalities so give me your opinion.

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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3401 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3433 times:
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Think about it a minute does there need to be any MORE capacity between the UK-and -Australia ?

The connection with Oneworld partners at LAX is More than adequate easterly !

Actually i think QF have shrunken internationally to being a regional feeder into the rest of Oneworld networks at Hong Kong/LAX/Heathrow/Tokyo and thats about it.

Note BA have pulled Melbourne and if it weren't for the JSA need for an actual presence BA would pull Sydney as well.

Australia ain't the money maker it once was with the competition from the likes of EK/EY/Qatar/Singapore/ MAS Thai and even Royal Brunei.

Hell even JAL and Korean sell competitively into this market !

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 29464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

There would be no point in QF using their own metal for that routing. It just wastes aircraft time that can be more profitably used on other routes. And whatever 5th freedom traffic they would pick on on the LAX-LHR sector is usually lower-yield than traffic carried by the national carriers. Not the best use of a valuable LHR slot.

It make sense for NZ since AKL-LAX-LHR is almost the same distance as via Asia, but from Australia it's almost 2,000 nm miles further via North America. You would have to be competitive with fares via the shorter route through Asia but costs for the several additional flying hours would be much higher. And through passengers would have to cope with the extra security hassles at LAX.

[Edited 2008-11-29 09:32:06]

User currently offlineJbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

I could see it being possible but not as a QF only flight. More along the lines of BA/QF sharing their aircraft along with AA codeshares. Basically have the assigned aircraft flying constant round the world routes, ie SYD/MEL-LAX-LHR-BKK-SYD/MEL

That being said I think they might have some issues.
1) would QF/BA be able to get approval to fly that route (the ongoing leg, ie BA LAX-SYD or QF LAX-LHR)

2) the route really wouldnt be ideal as a one stop flight, but has potential as a stop over for a few days but at which point the current QF SYD-LAX flight and the BA LAX-LHR flight is more than sufficent.

3) QF might find the route more desirable when the 787 is in service as they would have a smaller passenger capacity. ie they can work it more efficently with lower demand.

Ultimately as much as it would be interesting, #2 pretty much rules it out, the current service between BA/QF makes it low on the list of priorities for QF when they can potentially serve other markets with higher demand.

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