Qantasistheway From Australia, joined May 2008, 309 posts, RR: 2 Posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2523 times:
So what do you think, I would certainly like it as a different option to going via Asia and QF have established themselves quite well, so far they have put the LAX-LHR leg to BA but do you think they could do it on their own metal like Air New Zealand. I realise this is a very long routeing so that's why I'm asking. I am not sure of the technicalities so give me your opinion.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2466 times:
There would be no point in QF using their own metal for that routing. It just wastes aircraft time that can be more profitably used on other routes. And whatever 5th freedom traffic they would pick on on the LAX-LHR sector is usually lower-yield than traffic carried by the national carriers. Not the best use of a valuable LHR slot.
It make sense for NZ since AKL-LAX-LHR is almost the same distance as via Asia, but from Australia it's almost 2,000 nm miles further via North America. You would have to be competitive with fares via the shorter route through Asia but costs for the several additional flying hours would be much higher. And through passengers would have to cope with the extra security hassles at LAX.
Jbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
I could see it being possible but not as a QF only flight. More along the lines of BA/QF sharing their aircraft along with AA codeshares. Basically have the assigned aircraft flying constant round the world routes, ie SYD/MEL-LAX-LHR-BKK-SYD/MEL
That being said I think they might have some issues.
1) would QF/BA be able to get approval to fly that route (the ongoing leg, ie BA LAX-SYD or QF LAX-LHR)
2) the route really wouldnt be ideal as a one stop flight, but has potential as a stop over for a few days but at which point the current QF SYD-LAX flight and the BA LAX-LHR flight is more than sufficent.
3) QF might find the route more desirable when the 787 is in service as they would have a smaller passenger capacity. ie they can work it more efficently with lower demand.
Ultimately as much as it would be interesting, #2 pretty much rules it out, the current service between BA/QF makes it low on the list of priorities for QF when they can potentially serve other markets with higher demand.