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NW 744 Inbound To VCV  
User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 18845 times:

And yes, you're right...it's going to get painted! It should be out of the shop around December 12th. First person to get a pic of that beauty in her new colors gets....a cookie! Okay okay...and they'll be honored as Photographer of the Year. In my books at least.

Track it inbound right now: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA9751
ETA: 4pm PST (7pm EST)

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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3217 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 18891 times:

For those who may ask, I'll answer in advance. The specific aircraft is ship# 6305, N665US.


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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 18792 times:

Well let's start taking jabs on it's first stop after painting. ATL?? DTW?? MSP??? Anyone??


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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 weeks ago) and read 18729 times:

I guess I'll plug it here since all the DL boys will be look at this thread...My list was updated again today (I'm trying to do it every Saturday). If you need the links again, go to http://www.kooaiders.com/fleet

Quoting Lexy (Reply 2):
Well let's start taking jabs on it's first stop after painting. ATL?? DTW?? MSP??? Anyone??

I'm gunna guess ATL, for a little celebration.


User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 weeks ago) and read 18671 times:

The beginning of the end of NWA...........


Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 18560 times:

Is this aircraft getting new seats and coach avod or just a paint job?

User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 18533 times:

Does anyone know the first route? I assume it is domestic.

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5946 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 18503 times:

I FLEW THAT ONE!!!
I FLEW THAT ONE!!!

Well, I flew ON that one... it's the only NW 744 I've been on.

Anyhow, I thought they were going to paint this bird in Atlanta?

Quoting Papatango (Reply 5):
Is this aircraft getting new seats and coach avod or just a paint job?

I desperately hope so- that airplane is junk. At least, from a coach passenger perspective. I'm not talking about IFE- I'm talking about seats with cushions so compressed I was resting my head on the metal seat frame.

NOT a pleasant 7 hours.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20336 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 18471 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Thread starter):
And yes, you're right...it's going to get painted! It should be out of the shop around December 12th. First person to get a pic of that beauty in her new colors gets....a cookie! Okay okay...and they'll be honored as Photographer of the Year. In my books at least.

I think they should win a wet, sloppy kiss from you.


User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18459 times:

Will the 744s be placed routinely on domestic routes like with the -132s (e.g. ATL-DTW, DTW-MIA, ATL-LAX, ATL-MIA)?

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18457 times:



Quoting CodyKDiamond (Reply 9):
Will the 744s be placed routinely on domestic routes like with the -132s (e.g. ATL-DTW, DTW-MIA, ATL-LAX, ATL-MIA)?

Like the 132s? When was that, like, 20 years ago? In other words, no, it won't.


User currently offlineAviatortj From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18417 times:

What about the D9S to DHN? The nines have been known to receive fresh paint there as well.

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18410 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 7):
Anyhow, I thought they were going to paint this bird in Atlanta?

What gave you that idea? TechOps only has one paint bay capable of receiving a 747-400 and it is currently being used for maintenance. It occasionally gets used to paint a 777.


User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18408 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 10):
Like the 132s? When was that, like, 20 years ago? In other words, no, it won't.

Well, you never know. DL only today used the 77L on ATL-DEN and they routinely use widebodies on ATL-LAX. I could see it happening, with oil prices going down.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18398 times:



Quoting Aviatortj (Reply 11):
What about the D9S to DHN? The nines have been known to receive fresh paint there as well.

I think we'll see NW aircraft being painted not just all over the U.S. but all over the world. There will be a mass painting spree over the next 15 months, at the conclusion of which the NW brand will be completely obliterated. We might see a retrojet or two pop up but I highly doubt it.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18393 times:



Quoting CodyKDiamond (Reply 13):
DL only today used the 77L on ATL-DEN and they routinely use widebodies on ATL-LAX. I could see it happening, with oil prices going down.

A 77L did NOT fly to Denver today. Ship 7002 (a 777-200ER) operated the extra segment to Denver. The reason why you see widebodies on ATL-LAX (among other routes) is because Delta has a dedicated fleet of domestic widebodies (including 763s and 764ERs).


User currently offlineSYfan100 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18392 times:

That might be a nice Airplane model if they introduce one with the Delta colors.
Will be neat to see pictures of the plane wants it is all painted and has the new seats inside of it.


User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18272 times:

I saw that on Flightview at work today, was wondering why a 400 was going to VCV. That makes sense now. At least its not being parked.

User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18215 times:

More then not its a AMC trip. UA has done a ton of VCV-HNL-VCV flights over the past 2+ months and it looks like NW is getting in on the game as well.

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18104 times:



Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 18):
More then not its a AMC trip. UA has done a ton of VCV-HNL-VCV flights over the past 2+ months and it looks like NW is getting in on the game as well.

No. The aircraft is being painted.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5946 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 18049 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 12):
What gave you that idea?



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 12):
It occasionally gets used to paint a 777.

I think you just answered your own question... again.

Quoting CodyKDiamond (Reply 13):
I could see it happening, with oil prices going down.

Unfortunately, the price of jet fuel is not the ONLY reason to keep the widebodies off of domestic routes- it's the maintenance. Widebodies are more costly to maintain than your average 737 or MD-80. Therefore, the airlines have learned that it's best to keep the cycles on cheaper frames.
Couple that with the trend toward increased frequency (which we will, hopefully, see reversed in the current market), and you've got the recipe for AA no longer flying DC-10s between DFW-ORD-MCO-MIA-SJC-LAX and the like, in favor of ERJs and MD-80s.

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 15):
is because Delta has a dedicated fleet of domestic widebodies

Maybe that's why he asked? You shoot him down, yet justify his question in the same breath.
Many airlines (AA, UA, CO come to mind, and formerly US with their 333 service) fly their biggest or near-biggest types domestically. CO has, in the past, done 777 and 767 aircraft between IAH and EWR, UA has done 744s between SFO, DEN, and ORD, and AA continues to fly their 777s between DFW and ORD for positioning.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 17999 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 20):
I think you just answered your own question... again.

Interesting that you neglected to quote the reason why it WASN'T being painted in ATL, and that would be because the large paint hangar is currently being occupied by aircraft undergoing maintenance. I didn't "shoot him down," I simply answered his question.

This isn't Japan. The 747s won't be used on "shuttle" routes in the manner in which he described, and there aren't (currently) any routes flown or planned to fly that require the need for positioning flights between domestic U.S. hubs. Take the additional frequency to ATL from NRT. Notice I said to ATL, not from ATL. The flight will be operated with a NW crew based in Tokyo, not a NW crew based in ATL.


User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 17981 times:

Very exciting times. I have a feeling the new Delta livery is going to be a stunner on the 747.


-Travel now, journey infinitely.
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3217 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 17890 times:



Quoting AAH732UAL (Reply 18):
More then not its a AMC trip. UA has done a ton of VCV-HNL-VCV flights over the past 2+ months and it looks like NW is getting in on the game as well.

No. It is not.

At NW, 97xx flight numbers are for maintenance or other similar reason non-scheduled flights. Sports charters are typically 98xx flight numbers, and military charters are most typically 99xx flight numbers.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7564 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 17877 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 21):
The flight will be operated with a NW crew based in Tokyo, not a NW crew based in ATL.

NW only has a select few FA's in NRT, the only pilot base for the 744's is DTW. Some of the FA's will be US based crews, the NRT based FA's are mostly intra-asia.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
25 Flynavy : Right. Perhaps I should have said a NW crew originating in Tokyo. At any rate, the aircraft will likely operate NRT-ATL first, and not position DTW/M
26 Transpac787 : Technically they are based in DTW. As per the current DL pilot's contract, a cockpit crew cannot cross both the Pacific and the Atlantic in the same
27 Flynavy : True, but there are no doubt 744 crews that layover in NRT in between missions. And what does Rome have to do this with discussion? Highly unlikely t
28 Transpac787 : A hypothetical situation given the issue of pilot contracts and crew basing. Answers the question of the necessity of a domestic repositioning flight
29 KingAir200 : Did you miss the HYPOTHETICAL part?
30 Flynavy : Last time I checked, NRT-ATL crosses only one ocean, the Pacific Ocean. And, as you said... Thus, a crew operating, say, DTW-NRT (layover at NRT) cou
31 SXDFC : A wile back someone on this site said that one of the paint pays, the one being worked on can handle up to a 744... Are you sure you work in ATL Chri
32 Flynavy : Did you miss the part about said hangar being occupied?[Edited 2008-11-29 20:21:12]
33 Boeingdotcom : Is that B747 the first -400 roll out? I guess the -400 won't last long in passanger service, expect it to replace the -200 in Cargo/Charter service. M
34 SXDFC : Apparently not.. I was referring to the fact that it CAN handle a 747 as once stated on this site recently.
35 Transpac787 : Yes, that would be fine. NW crews effectively do that anyway, as there is no MSP 744 pilot base so some crews will fly DTW-NRT-MSP-NRT-DTW, etc. So t
36 AndrewUber : Will it keep its current reg? Or will DL re-register it? Just curious! Drew
37 Flynavy : By all accounts, the general consensus is that the NWA Cargo operation is to cease, sometime in 2010. It'll last through 2009 but after that its fate
38 SXDFC : After reading all these debates in this topic I think they will send in N666US instead
39 Flynavy : A fact I'm well aware of, since I mentioned it above earlier. Good to see we're on the same page! It might happen down the road, but certainly not an
40 Transpac787 : No. The oldest 744 NW has is ship# 6303, N663US. Delivered 26 January 1989 The plane being painted, ship# 6305, was delivered 01 September 1989 DL te
41 SXDFC : It also costs money to re -register an a/c as well. Although It would be interesting if anyone knows how much the FAA does charge for that service!
42 JohnClipper : Last I heard, it was US$65.00 to reregister...
43 Flynavy : Multiply that by the number of aircraft in the NW fleet, and that's a bunch of cash that doesn't need to be spent.
44 Evan767 : So will the aircraft be getting new seats also or what?
45 Transpac787 : Given the amount of time the aircraft is in VCV, no way. Just a repaint for now and that's it.
46 Airbuske : Yes, it's in for a repaint. That's it. But I hear they might repaint the wings completely
47 Dazed767 : Think it would look better in the Song colors.....
48 Flynavy : Such blasphemous words shall not be tolerated!
49 Boeingdotcom : So if the B777 were to replace B747-400 one on one basis, where would the B747-400 go? Maybe the first B747-400 will be at Boeing Museum of Flight, bu
50 Flynavy : They'd probably be sold to raise capital (World Airways comes to mind) or sold for scrap. You're assuming Delta has intentions of expanding the dedic
51 Boeingdotcom : We'll see... I bet the most -400 will not go to scrap. As for the first B747-400, Museum of Flight!
52 Flynavy : British Airways is already scrapping a couple of theirs. Never say never.
53 Mayor : Using that logic, DL should only have two divisions left, Cargo and Tech Ops. They're the only two divisions that have turned a profit in the last 10
54 Deltal1011man : It wont be an issue. If they have to they will open a 744 base in Atlanta. and the one 757 from.....Asia? NXXXPC(I cant remember the number)
55 Transpac787 : N900PC, a 757-26D. I can't find any info on it regarding previous operators. So, maybe DL acquired it first-hand from Boeing in a similar fashion as
56 Flynavy : I was referring to the NWA Cargo dedicated freighter operation. Wrong. I'll leave this one for Transpac787 to dissect. The aircraft was not taken up
57 DeltaL1011man : But if they cant get the DALPA to drop it..........?
58 Burnsie28 : Add in NRT-LAX and when they used to operate it, NRT-JFK. Right... unfortunately, it was one of the few airlines to be able to compete and at most of
59 Mayor : I know you were. Since it's all one big cargo operation, now (or will be) there is the opportunity to make the freighter operation more profitable th
60 Flynavy : Not entirely accurate. Delta does paint SOME aircraft's wings. I've got a list of aircraft with wings painted at work somewhere.
61 Transpac787 : They will. The only other aircraft effected by the contract stipulation is the 777. Currently, most DL 777 pilot lines are 3 or 4 day trips. A simple
62 Flynavy : Any idea what the NRT-ATL-NRT will tag onto when it begins? Guesses perhaps?
63 Transpac787 : Given how a NRT-ATL-NRT will be worth considerable hours, I would guess it will be attached with a short south-flight, like PVG. So a hypothetical: D
64 Chgoflyer : Does anyone have an idea of what a new paint job cost for a 747-400? Also how long does it last?
65 Sparky35805 : Isnt N900PC a n ex Singapore 757?The only US registered aircraft that I remember Delta re-registered were the ex PA DC8-33s in the late 60s and the 10
66 Flynavy : N900PC was originally ordered by Shanghai Airlines but was not taken up. Delta does operatre four ex-SQ 757s: N750AT, N751AT, N757AT, and N752AT. The
67 DeltaL1011man : Well the rumors are TLV,GRU,NRT,CDG,FCO and LHR more than two flights a day I'd say PEK...........marketing reasons only no need to have 2x daily ATL
68 Viscount724 : In addition to the cost of repainting the N numbers on the aircraft and changing the internal records, I believe the FAA fee is only $5 to register a
69 Transpac787 : NW/DL will actually have 3x flights to PVG. ATL, DTW, and NRT. So yes, it's quite possible NRT-PVG will be downgraded from 744. However, if DL puts p
70 AAH732UAL : Never know....... UA had a -400 base in the DCA domicile just for FRA and PEK. Both flights have either been cut or put on a 777, as such they closed
71 DeltaL1011man : right...........i believe the have the NRT flight start in DTW right? (I.E same flight number?) BTW can the 787 make ATL-PVG/PEK?
72 Transpac787 : And UA is notorious for having way more crew bases than needed. Take the SEA bases, for example. The 777 SEA base has 1 flight: NRT with a TPE tag. A
73 DeltaL1011man : maybe they should move it to 787 once they come. I would guess the NRT-PVG flight will go switch with something (the MSP tag on?) and ATL#1 will need
74 Post contains links Rwy04LGA : 30+ In Delta colors http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=p...E=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=
75 Airbuske : I am talking about wing refinishing. They sand off old loose layers of paint and repaint the wing leading edge, wing trailing edge, leading edge devi
76 Transpac787 : Great idea. DL should paint a 747-400, only to have it shipped off to the museum of flight. Never mind the fact that the specific aircraft will have
77 SYfan100 : Northwest use to fly to Rome from Detroit with the Dc-10 then the Airbus 330-300 for a short time. The route was seasonal then they did not bring it b
78 Mayor : "It makes since to have one at Washington Dc with all the International flights. " Not if you don't operate any int'l. flights out of IAD, it doesn't.
79 Airbuske : I don't want to give away any spoilers but there will be a small "Operated by Northwest Airlines, Inc." marking by door #5L.
80 Pilotboi : And that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone here. We had this discussion weeks ago.
81 Airbuske : Oh. I was under the impression that you weren't aware to as what the exact livery will look like, but I guess I was wrong. Sorry
82 Post contains links and images Pilotboi : Yup, everyone should be fully aware that it is still Northwest operating on their own certificate, so they need to have their name on there. Other th
83 Gsosbee : For those who would like to know - where is door 5L? On the left side where - front or back?
84 KingAir200 : Fifth door down on the left.
85 Airbuske : Not exactly Aft most door on the main deck.
86 Gsosbee : Thanks to both of you. So Delta is putting it basically where no one will see it if they are not looking for it. (I am assuming it will be in the sma
87 KingAir200 : Essentially. NWA has done the same thing on later deliveries of CP E75s and XJ CR9s.
88 Mayor : Kinda like the small print on a contract, I guess. Just there to make it legal.
89 The777Man : Any idea of which exact routes for this repainted aircraft once it re-enters service ? It would be nice to see it at LAX before Christmas! The777Man
90 Airbuske : I think the first stop is DTW. But I'll confirm with you on Monday.
91 The777Man : It would be interesting if someone could post the planned routes for the next few days just how it was done for the Peter Max 777 for CO. The777Man
92 NorthstarBoy : what the? why all the way back there? doesn't it need to be near 1L or 2L where the pax can see it as they board?
93 DocLightning : First A.netter to get a pic of it gets a big, wet, sloppy kiss from FlyNavy!
94 Lexy : Why? Any idea if there is something planned for it's arrival?
95 Gsosbee : Nope. Delta is the brand. It is only on the airplane for legal reasons. They would put it in the cargo hold if they could get away with it.
96 Burnsie28 : Not spoiling anything since its the law anyway.
97 Pilotboi : Oh good, I'm off the hook then? Oh did you just mix us up? Also - Flynavy won't be able to do that here - he's vanished from these here grounds.
98 Like2flyguy : Northwest and Delta are still being operated as seperate airlines. Many Northwest planes are painted by their vendors in VCV. Atlanta will not be an
99 Mayor : Since NW is now a wholly owned supsidiary of DL, DL can do almost anything they want as far as painted the a/c. The statement "operated by Northwest
100 Pilotboi : Let's make something clear. They are separate airlines, but NOT separate companies. The only thing that's keeping the Northwest name alive at the mom
101 Like2flyguy : Correct. However, at the current time Northwest planes are being painted by Northwest vendors. This includes ship 6305 that is currently being painte
102 CX747 : The 747-400 done up in Delta's current livery is one good looking bird. It's a shame that we likely won't see these birds in DL colors 4-5 years from
103 Burnsie28 : Neither of these are confirmed, its a shame as the 744 is still a great aircraft.
104 Like2flyguy : These rumors have been circulating in Northwest's SOC as well, particularly TLV and GRU. However, I have not heard any mention of the frequency of th
105 Hiflyer : I would bet on probable....and sooner rather than later. Make no mistake...DL will want to show their hometown their 'new' 747's. The A330's.....not
106 Burnsie28 : With only one flight a day and most of the 744 trips originating out of DTW, no reason too, even at two 744's a day no reason, just DH if need be, it
107 Nwarooster : Poor thing...... I still like the latest NWA paint livery. It is almost as nice as the paint scheme Northwest had in the 70s........
108 Like2flyguy : No clarity needed. At this point in time, they are both separate airlines AND separate companies. It just so happens that one company (Delta) owns th
109 Pilotboi : It gives Delta the authority to tell Northwest what they do and when they do it. Northwest can't change anything without Delta's approval.
110 Like2flyguy : You're missing the point here. There is no question Delta plays a considerable role in helping to make decisions for both companies. However, the con
111 Pilotboi : Okay, I'll settle with that. Does it enable you to see the new roll out date? I have it in good words that the boys in the paint shop made a little b
112 Like2flyguy : Possibly VCV-ATL on December 12.
113 Mayor : Just as an aside, back in '91, when I was on the transition team at TLV, the cargo people told me that no matter what size a/c DL scheduled out of TL
114 Like2flyguy : The issue with the paint is not that a paint job was botched, but that all layers of paint are being removed before repainting the aircraft a differen
115 Surfdog75 : Anyone know if the 747 will get the interior redone before it's intro?
116 Pilotboi : Excellent! Wanna spill the beans on which ones?
117 Kiwiandrew : so at least one of the DC-9s will be repainted - I seem to recall a lot of speculation about whether any of them would ( cue the calls for a retro jo
118 The777Man : Just saw a NW aircraft (757) in the DL hangar at LAX tonight for the first time. The777Man
119 Like2flyguy : To my knowledge, only repainting is being done at this time. I did not get the aircraft numbers. However, it appears a 757 is also being repainted. T
120 FlyDeltaJets : Can somebody out on the west get some sort of sneak pic no matter how fuzzy it looks to wet all of out gills. We are dying over here starting to make
121 Mayor : Well, heck.....we don't need FACTS to confuse the issue.
122 Burnsie28 : Rumor has it that with fuel prices down that its possible that some DC-9's will be pulled back out of the desert and back in service. It will have to
123 Mayor : The travelling public will need a ladder and a pair of binoculars to see it there!
124 Burnsie28 : Yeah but I suppose if your on a plane next to it you could see it.
125 Pilotboi : I'm with you! Whoever can get that first pic, even if it's poor quality will become member of the year!
126 Je89_w : N665US flew from HNL to VCV. Well, send N665US back to HNL where it came from, and put her on the same runway where I took her in the photograph of r
127 Gsosbee : That is the whole point. Delta is the brand, and they will meet the minimum legal requirement and no more.
128 Pilotboi : I give you the minimum legal requirements:
129 KingAir200 : This I can confirm. The three narrowbodies are in GLH right now.
130 FX1816 : Since I'm down the street from VCV I have been going there about 2 or 3 times a day to see if I can get anything. It looks as though it is still in o
131 Frostbite : I noticed that schedules for the ATL-NRT 744 service (beginning in May) have been posted on Delta.com: DL 800 NRT-ATL Dep 1530 Arr 1450 DL 801 ATL-NRT
132 Mayor : Well, get your tent and set up camp. We NEED pics!
133 Timf : Another interesting thing about this flight is it appears to be the first Northwest-operated flight marketed solely by Delta. All of the other new ro
134 Transpac787 : NW/DL does not immediately rotate the aircraft back to the US. The *only* aircraft that will do this will be the ATL-NRT on the 777, which will turn
135 NW7E7 : Is that a 757-300 series?
136 KingAir200 : No. It's a 200.
137 WorldTraveler : while NW is a key part of the merger, NW is making NO decisions about its future any longer. They are operating an airline for DL within the confines
138 JKJ777 : The seat map for DL 800 in May is now available. I am curious as to how the new Business seat can allow for 2-3-2 up front. Is it confirmed that the n
139 KingAir200 : Which looks to me to be unchanged from the current NWA configuration.
140 Burnsie28 : It will be doing normal NW runs until ATL starts Exactly this flight isn't 100% going to start, though I would say 99.9% will, its still Subject to G
141 Transpac787 : Since the planes will be sitting in NRT, they most likely won't be doing that NW routinely does this anyway. Where do you think the plane comes from
142 WorldTraveler : DL is aware of the uphill climb it has in branding ... but if you don't start with what will probably end up as one of the largest transpac markets f
143 Burnsie28 : Look at the times again, it arrives ATL 14:50, the outbound 744 leaves at 14:20 so explain to me how thats not sitting in ATL? From what I was told w
144 Burnsie28 : I know I was just saying... Secondly I noticed that while the NW flight doesn't operate with anykind of NW flight number the DL 777 flight still has
145 Pilotboi : I would so be doing this if I lived near VCV. Tail numbers! We need tail numbers!
146 KingAir200 : This information can be yours for 3 easy payments of only $19.99 plus shipping and handling![Edited 2008-12-07 22:26:28]
147 Transpac787 : Now that's a good deal.... only 20 bucks per plane!! KingAir, I'm afraid I'll have to undercut you though and offer it for only $17.95 per tail numbe
148 KingAir200 : Last time I share with you these secrets...
149 Transpac787 : I do believe it was the other way around, as I told you about the A320 ship# before you knew about it.
150 KingAir200 : I had forgotten it by the time I made my discoveries today.
151 Transpac787 : How convenient!!! Are you gonna sell your info on the next 752 56xx to get winglets, too??
152 FX1816 : Nope no need for me to camp out there, from my backyard I can see the two hangars that Leading Edge uses. Just keep some binoculars with me and I can
153 Pilotboi : Sold! But um...it's going to be in monopoly money, okay? I'll be over in a few hours. Start the hot tub now. Oh and I'll bring a case of Corona.
154 FX1816 : I got the limes!!!! FX1816
155 Pilotboi : Sweeeet!
156 Like2flyguy : Since Northwest is now a part of Delta (and you might say Northwest is NOW Delta), then yes you could say that Delta is making all of the decisions.
157 Frostbite : Perhaps I'm not following you....what does any of this have to do with leaving a 744 as ramp decoration & pigeon roost in ATL for 23+ hours? What's t
158 Transpac787 : Perhaps cost alone. To pay 1 captain, 2 FO's, and 14 FA's full time pay to deadhead them on DTW-ATL and then ATL-DTW, in addition to the trip hours??
159 Azjubilee : It seems like this 744 ATL-NRT flight will be operated somewhat as a "wet lease." If it has a DL flight number, marketed by DL, departing from DL gate
160 Mayor : I think this is how the SLC-NRT flight will be, also.
161 Azjubilee : The SLC flight is in the computer as NWA flight numbers... 9 and 10.
162 Mayor : I stand corrected. What dates does that show? I tried to find it on the DL website and I guess it's not a codeshare, either. Now, I would imagine tha
163 Azjubilee : It's weird, during this initial transition there are some things available on the delta website and not on nwa.com and vice versa. A look into PARS sh
164 Mattbna : According to the resident shady photographer, I thought we were told immediately after the darkest day in the history of NWA that, according to his "
165 Mayor : Yeah.....on Travelnet, some of the flights show up as codeshares but these same flights don't show up on Delta.com and yet, they do show up on NW.com
166 Post contains links and images Rikkus67 : ...I am wondering if they will do a hybrid paintscheme, similar to the CP/AC hybrid scheme (introduced after Air Canada bought Canadi>n)? View Large
167 Like2flyguy : I'm expecting it to be the same ole' Delta scheme, but I guess we'll see! I would be up for a change... again! lol Seems like we have a different pai
168 Pilotboi : Wouldn't it be more like contract flying? (Now that I think of it I guess it's basically the same thing). What I picture thought is that Northwest is
169 Post contains links and images Burnsie28 : Nothing You don't get full time pay for DH, plus you might not have to pay a lot of these guys as a lot of NW's 744 guys live in the ATL area. As far
170 Post contains links and images Kiwiandrew : View Large View MediumPhoto © Alsatian D this photo go me wondering , does anyone have any idea what the maximum number of different liveries are
171 Burnsie28 : Add two more to that as the plane was with North Central and then Republic before coming to NW.
172 DeltaL1011man : just dead head a crew in from DTW Which flight? The only one that the gov. has to ok is JFK and thats a maybe. NW (along with UA) can start ANY USA-N
173 Pilotboi : Ohhhh! Burnsie28 spilled the beans for free! KingAir200 and Transpac787 - you just got owned. Last time I do business with either of you. I bet there
174 Burnsie28 : As per PARS 2 DL 801 J9 D9 S9 I9 O0 Y9 B9 M9 ATLNRT 220P 500P]1 744 LL0 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U0 T0 N0 DL 801 OPERATED BY NORTHWEST AIRLINES DL 801 SUBJ GOVT A
175 Airbuske : 3214 5639 9867 I so wish I could leak some pictures I have but the owner has asked me not to.
176 Airbuske : And if I'm not mistaken, the 2nd 747-400 to be painted will be 6307. She will fly in directly from SIN where she is in check at the moment.
177 DeltaL1011man : not sure but i want to say DL does the MRO work for World's 744F, so if they do any MRO 744 then they are set up and could do NW 744 also. All just d
178 Pilotboi : You're a few posts too late. Burnsie beat you to it. Great!
179 Pilotboi : LOL Who said that?
180 Jetjack74 : We got an IFCOMM from mgmt about 2 weeks ago informing us hat NW/DL plans to institute our Satellite Base clause in our contract, starting with ATL a
181 Transpac787 : Not too familiar with the intricacies of international ops, are we?? It doesn't matter if a 744 pilots lives in Atlanta or Saipan, they will be paid
182 DeltaL1011man : I want to say it was Ed but not 100%...........They didn't want to start painting much till after Jan. 1. The same reason alot of stations aren't get
183 Jetjack74 : We do it regularly to position the crews doing charters to/from SEA-OKO, vice versa. Some are DH/DW, but they fill the jumpseats going over or coming
184 Mayor : I'm sure his place in MSP is just temporary until things are all together and finalized. And BTW it's Ed, not Eb.
185 KingAir200 : Of course. He's just there to be the closer.[Edited 2008-12-08 19:29:02]
186 DeltaL1011man : crap typo. My bad, Right He is the CEO of NWA and will stay in MN till SOC then he'll come back to Atlanta and take back over as CFO/Pres of the BOD.
187 Post contains links HB-IWC : This thread is getting pretty long, and a new thread on the paint jobs has been started here: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/r
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