Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11956 posts, RR: 37 Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14858 times:
Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 3): domestic ! where are you expecting SQ to utilise these aircraft ...from Changi to Paya Lebar ?
Tengeh to Seletar is a bit longer; these are long range A330s!
Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4): Will the A333's replace the B773A's one by one?
I don't think there is any intention (at least as far as I've heard) to get rid of older aircraft; CX has announced plans to get rid of older 777s (but only -200s), not CX.
The SQ A333s are expected to be used on routes currently operated by two class 777s - I guess BKK, SUB, DPS, HAN, SGN, MNL and some Chinese, Japanese and Indian routes.
Any info yet on config? I'm guessing about 280-300, 2 class?
UAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 903 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14751 times:
I heard that they will use the A333 on SIN-DXB afternoon flight.
Well, the most recent deliveries have been 966-968 and this one is 986; it should be December or early January (I think December was the planned first delivery).
777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5205 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14418 times:
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 5): The SQ A333s are expected to be used on routes currently operated by two class 777s - I guess BKK, SUB, DPS, HAN, SGN, MNL and some Chinese, Japanese and Indian routes.
Ojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2787 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14363 times:
Among the Indian routes, AMD,CCU,HYD are strong contenders for the A333, as the B772 on these routes are an overkill at times. These 3 cities may rise up to daily, as opposed to the current 3 and 4weekly flights.
Also I'm not sure if the morning flight of BOM would see the A333. If the loads were poor I do not know why don't they operate the B772? However assuming that SQ will get a better J class then the existing Raffles class, there is a chance at BOM as well.
SQ will now get a flexibility to operate an ac of lower capacity than the B772.
A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8264 posts, RR: 56 Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14332 times:
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 9): Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
When is the 1st delivery due?
Well, the most recent deliveries have been 966-968 and this one is 986; it should be December or early January (I think December was the planned first delivery).
- Thanks, hopefully I'll see one when I'm at SIN in Feb
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7348 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 13705 times:
The current Business Class seat width seems better for long haul A380, A345 and 77W flights then regional Business Class. I have to ecpect SQ will have what is appriate fro 4-6 hour flights.
Ojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2787 posts, RR: 23 Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 12962 times:
Quoting Keesje (Reply 15): Not sure. It seems more efficient on routes up to 10.000 km / 5500 nm with the same capasity.
I was thinking on the lines that on many routes SQ are forced to operate a B777 when it is not required. Ex: ATQ, AMD etc. Now instead of operating a 3 weekly B777; the A333 gives them a flexibility of operating a daily flight however with a lower per day capacity. We do know how efficient the A333 aircraft is, but I was talking in the context of the seats it offered and the tweaking of schedules the A333 will do.
Asiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1019 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 12565 times:
Quoting N14AZ (Thread starter): The first A330-343 for SQ has been spotted at TLS
Finally!!!
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 5): I don't think there is any intention (at least as far as I've heard) to get rid of older aircraft; CX has announced plans to get rid of older 777s (but only -200s), not CX.
SQ says that they intend to replace older 777's with A330's.
By SQ standard some of the 777 are getting old now. The first ones was delivered in 1997.
So far SQ has stated that the A330 will mainly be used on regional routes without specifying any destinations.
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6717 posts, RR: 65 Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 12463 times:
In recent months we've seen the first A330s for Avianca, Aeroflot, Air Asia X (first new-build), Kingfisher and - once they've painted one - Mexicana. Now Singapore and very soon thereafter Thai (first -343), Finnair, Afriqiyah, Swiss (first -343), US Airways (first -243) and then the first -200F. Loads of new A330 operators!
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6717 posts, RR: 65 Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11224 times:
Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 23): You mean - lots of RR-powered 330 operators, don't you?
Was it that obvious?
Actually, Kingfisher (PW), Finnair (GE), Afriqiyah (GE) and Flyington Freighters (PW) rather spoil the party...
25 9MMPD: I beleive you can add Perth to the list as well. We get regional configed 777s and if BNE is getting the A330 good chances are we will too along with
26 SR100: There are already 15 343 around - we're waiting for the first 333 to replace 332...
27 PM: Uh-uh. We're talking a different language. I was referring to A330s. Your current ones are -223s (because they have PW). Your new ones will be A330-3
28 Burnsie28: Depends on Configuration for instance NW A333- 298 Seats DL 772ER-268 Seats 7772LR- 276 seats
29 Eightball: I wonder when the SV A333's will be delivered.
30 PM: Not till they choose an engine! Edited for typo. [Edited 2008-12-01 01:11:00]
31 Eightball: I think that SV will probably choose GE engines for the A333, since they already operate GE engines on other aircraft in their fleet.
32 Zeke: The 333 does have less floor area, but has the same cargo hold capacity for LD-3 containers. Regionally/medium haul they both lift around 40,000 kg p
33 Coal: Assume they will also operate to PEK and PVG. I still can't believe that the overnight flight to PEK has the regional Recaro seats that barely recline
34 Ben175: Haha, just a little laugh: In the PER international flight schedules SQ226 on December 2 2008 is listed as a A330-300 service. :P The 333 will look fa
35 Zeke: They already have the A333 models available for purchase from their shop.
36 Myt332: Actually it's the third. MSN0978 F-WWKZ - seen at TLS in October - is due to become 9V-STA MSN0983 F-WWYZ - seen at TLS in October and again earlier
37 Scouseflyer: Was the ownership of these birds ever cleared up as they appear on the O&D list as the customer being SQ but IIRC they were always described as leased
38 PM: They have so far placed 12 (2x6) with leasing companies. The first SQ aircraft will belong to AWAS. There are 7 still to place.
39 Scouseflyer: Thanks - so they're selling the leases on to 3rd parties who will lease the planes to SQ.
40 Asiaflyer: Yes, like they have done with a part of their fleet over last years, including the A380s. Window dressing of the balance sheet all of a sudden makes
43 FCKC: Amazing , 9V-STA , STB ; STC................were the registrations of the very first Airbusses for SIA , namely A300B4.
44 AA777223: The B773 is a significantly larger aircraft than the A333. The A333 and A343 are similar in size, even slightly smaller than, the B772.
45 777way: SQ have been serving Pakistan since 1985, starting off with 743 to some European cities via Karachi , then Middle East with A300 or A310 to Dhahran a
46 N14AZ: Are we talking about the B 777s, for which Boeing took over Airbus A340s from SQ? And now they are replacing them again with A330-343s? One of them w