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Stored Independence Air CRJs  
User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6491 times:

I'm trying to track down a few ex-Independence Air CRJs. The following planes are unaccounted for:

- N620BR
- N631BR
- N632BR
- N635BR
- N636BR - last seen at Zephyrhills, FL
- N637BR - last seen at Zephyrhills, FL
- N640BR - last seen at Zephyrhills, FL
- N641BR - last seen at Zephyrhills, FL

The following planes were scrapped at Walnut Ridge, AR:

- N621BR
- N622BR
- N623BR
- N624BR
- N625BR


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Does anyone know if the four CRJs are still stored at ZPH? If so, they're probably in horrific shape today. I looked at Google map of ZPH, no sign of any CRJs but the map could be old. There are 6 EMB-120s though, unsure who those belonged to...

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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6478 times:

Best bet... go to the FAA web site and search there....or use the s/n and search here. I doubt highly they are still sitting on the ground.

[Edited 2008-12-01 07:05:43]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6458 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):

Yeah, I already did that. In fact, it was the first thing I did. All four planes at ZPH have not been photographed since the photos at ZPH were taken.

They are all four owned by GA Telesis. Certainly not who you want to be owned by if you're a derelict airliner. They specialize in "replacement component distribution". They'll probably be scrapped I imagine. Still, if they're on the ramp at ZPH, I want to get some shots of them before its too late...


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6433 times:

Correction: N640BR and N641BR are listed as for sale on their website. I imagine N636BR and N637BR are the ones that are either scrapped or being picked at for spares...

http://www.gatelesis.com/aircraftavailable.htm

[Edited 2008-12-01 07:12:52]

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6436 times:

Well... just in those few minutes I can tell you 632 has been exported to China....620 had a temp certificate issued this summer, so my guess is it has been moved. Still looking


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6390 times:

Go to Flightaware and do a search under the tail numbers. WAY too much stuff to list here. All but two have flown within the last two month. Looks like they are getting ready for new customers by their locations


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineN770WD From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 126 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6390 times:

I don't have current status for 620, 631 and 632. For the others:

N635BR - conversion to Challenger 850 (www.tailwindcapital.net)
N636BR - Felix Airways (Yemen)
N637BR - Felix Airways (Yemen)
N640BR - conversion to Challenger 850 (www.tailwindcapital.net)
N641BR - conversion to Challenger 850 (www.tailwindcapital.net)

The FAA site won't help... only shows the trustee.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6380 times:

A number were stored at CAE in 2005:

N656BR - to Chautauqua
N644BR - to Alma, dumped again this year when they went bankrupt (status unknown)
N649BR - to Mesa
N629BR - status unknown
N655BR - to Mesa
N633BR - to Haas Racing
N645BR - to Chautauqua
N648BR - to Chautauqua
N626BR - to SAA Express
N705BR - to Alma, dumpep same as 644
N632BR - exported to China as EMBQA said, status unknown

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):

Yeah, they've been all over the place it would seem.

N641BR, according to Flightaware, never made it out of ZPH.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6370 times:



Quoting N770WD (Reply 6):

Cool, thanks. That confirmed they did make it out of ZPH. The ones that went to ARG weren't so lucky...


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6351 times:



Quoting N770WD (Reply 6):
The FAA site won't help... only shows the trustee

Incorrect... it will show if the aircraft is still registered, still in the US and has not been scrapped.



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16866 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6326 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Thread starter):
Does anyone know if the four CRJs are still stored at ZPH? If so, they're probably in horrific shape today. I looked at Google map of ZPH, no sign of any CRJs but the map could be old.

I just checked MSN live maps (Birds eye) and there are four Independence Air CRJs parked on a taxiway between runway 4 and runway 36.



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User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1551 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6293 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
Incorrect... it will show if the aircraft is still registered, still in the US and has not been scrapped.

Are you sure about that. For instance, if you do some research on a certain tail number, you'll find some interesting stuff.
Example: N88CH, a Convair 880, still in the FAA Database. However, everything I can find on the internet leads me to think that the aircraft is no longer in the United States, but is infact a restaurant somewhere in South Africa.

Sorry for the hijack. Its a shame that these fairly new aircraft are getting scraped. I would think that there would be a fair market for these Challenger 850 business jets. Would be quiet nice to have once in a while.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6264 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):
I just checked MSN live maps (Birds eye) and there are four Independence Air CRJs parked on a taxiway between runway 4 and runway 36.

Very cool. Thanks for the info.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6200 times:

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 11):
Are you sure about that

Yes.. In your case the aircraft N88CH is still registered.. for whatever reason someone is still paying the bill from the FAA. To export an aircraft there is an extensive process that the FAA will go through and the aircraft records will reflect that as noted with 632BR. When the aircraft is scrapped it's the same process and the FAA records will note that.

[Edited 2008-12-01 08:12:58]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6039 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 8):
The ones that went to ARG weren't so lucky...

I was just in ARG a couple weeks ago (went to the Parachute Inn with the WN 737) and N625BR is in pretty sorry shape, but it's still relatively intact. I took a picture and posted on Flickr.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6039 times:



Quoting Pgtravel (Reply 14):

Wow! Did you happen to get any shots of the Varig 777 that is being parted out?


User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5870 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 15):
Did you happen to get any shots of the Varig 777 that is being parted out?

I didn't see a 777 there, but that would have been great! You can see the rest of what I saw in my Flickr set. There were Varig 737s being parted out as well as a UA 737 and a handful of CO 737s. There were also several Champion 727s sadly meeting their demise.


User currently offline727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 793 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5818 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
N629BR - status unknown

629 is with OH now. Everytime my friends fly it I get a call complaining about how bad of shape it is in and how it breaks all of the time. It has kept its ways from the DH days. It always had a click in the ailerons that would drive you nuts.

I always get a smile when I see one of our old airplanes still flying for another company now.


727forever



727forever
User currently offlineRunway24R From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5787 times:

When I last flew into Zephyrhills on Aug 1st 2008, I can confirm that there were 4 Independence Air CRJs still there. I'm trying to find the photo I took to see if I can confirm the regestrations.

Hope that helps. It looked very weird to be on final and see these four in the middle of the airfiled!!!

Regards, Rob  Smile



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5780 times:

There were 2-3 at BDL by the Bombardier ramp over the summer, im not sure if they're still there.


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User currently offlineLotsamiles From United States of America, joined May 2005, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5483 times:

N636BR - at RFD ready for delivery to Felix Airways (Yemen)
N637BR - at RFD soon to be delivered to Felix Airways (Yemen)

N640BR - moved to RFD, available
N641BR - still in ZPH, may be moved to RFD soon so get your pics while you can


User currently offline727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 793 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5424 times:



Quoting Lotsamiles (Reply 20):
N636BR - at RFD ready for delivery to Felix Airways (Yemen)
N637BR - at RFD soon to be delivered to Felix Airways (Yemen)

N640BR - moved to RFD, available
N641BR - still in ZPH, may be moved to RFD soon so get your pics while you can

I'm happy to hear that 636 and 641 get a new lease on life. 636 was the fastest in the fleet and 641 was our first airplane in the flyi livery. 637 on the other hand was always a maintenance queen. It had the most flap failures in the fleet. I'm not sure if they ever figured out why the flap torque shafts kept loosing their calibration. Best of luck to Felix with that one.

727forever



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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5420 times:



Quoting 727forever (Reply 21):
637 on the other hand was always a maintenance queen. It had the most flap failures in the fleet. I'm not sure if they ever figured out why the flap torque shafts kept loosing their calibration.

What did you expect from planes built with Canadian scrap metal?  duck 


User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1551 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5387 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 13):

Thanks for the help there EMBQA. I just happened to have the plane handy, as I was doing a bit of research on it, as at one time, a friend of my distant family owned the aircraft. But regardless, good to know.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5345 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 19):
There were 2-3 at BDL by the Bombardier ramp over the summer, im not sure if they're still there.

Not that I've seen. I think I saw one at Tac Air a while back though so they might be stored on the airport somewhere


25 Bok269 : And I remember seeing a fair deal at TUS as well, along with a number of ex-NW Airlink CRJs.
26 Braniff722 : If I'm not mistaken, I think there were at least 4 parked down in Lake Charles Louisiana (KLCH) late last year or 1st of this year. Braniff 722
27 NASCARAirforce : I believe Michael Waltrip Racing has one of them, it kind of looked like an ex Indy Air CRJ
28 Boeingdotcom : what is the age of all the aircraft?
29 VHHYI : In the case of N625BR (no longer flyable), just on 11 years.
30 ATAflyer : YES, Bok269 is correct, I was just in TUS for Thanksgiving and saw several there, along with what looks like retired DL/Skywest aircraft. Just thought
31 Csturdiv : Are there good photo op chances around RFD? I live off of I90 and this would be an easy road trip over the weekend...depending on the weather.
32 MI5Flyer : I flew by ZPH on 12 NOV on the way back from TPA. Looking down to see if the CRJ's were still there it appeared that there was only one. I think that
33 A340Spotter : N620BR flew from ARG-BDL on May 31st as I noted in a couple of threads back then: Quoting Crownvic (Reply 22): Now, going to Walnut Ridge is NOT good
34 Ny-jfk-lga : I couldn't help but post on this thread. Number 641, great memories. I still have the "independence day" poster with 641 in the middle and everyone ga
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