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AA Domestic 777 & LAX Question  
User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1035 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12019 times:

Is there any other place other then MIA-LAX that AA operates the 777? And are they still offering 2 class service on the 3 cabin aircraft?

Also, what are domestic nonstop services AA offers from LAX other than JFK, DFW, MIA and HNL?

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User currently offlineKeny156 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11945 times:

ord-dfw #2349
dfw-ord #2350

Quoting Tonytifao (Thread starter):
Also, what are domestic nonstop services AA offers from LAX other than JFK, DFW, MIA and HNL?

LAS
BOS
AUS
DEN
XNA
OGG
LIH
KOA
MCO
EWR
BNA
SFO
SEA
STL
EGE
IAD
some are only seasonal

eagle

MRY
SBA
SJC
ELP
FAT
SAN


User currently offlineKeny156 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11919 times:



Quoting Keny156 (Reply 1):
ord-dfw #2349
dfw-ord #2350

is the only other 777 domestic flight. yes it is only a 2 class service on a 3 class airplane as the 777 and the 767-200 are the only airplanes in the AA fleet with 3 classes, and the 767-200 does only transcon.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11857 times:



Quoting Keny156 (Reply 2):
and the 767-200 does only transcon.

The 762 also does a MIA-JFK-MIA turn.
AA 299 and AA 1520 are sold as a three-class service.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11836 times:



Quoting Keny156 (Reply 2):

is the only other 777 domestic flight. yes it is only a 2 class service on a 3 class airplane as the 777 and the 767-200 are the only airplanes in the AA fleet with 3 classes, and the 767-200 does only transcon.

No, AA's MIA-LAX 772 flight is a 3-class service.

The 762 does not only transcons, as it also flies MIA-JFK and JFK-BDA.



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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11775 times:



Quoting Keny156 (Reply 1):

LAS
BOS
AUS
DEN
XNA
OGG
LIH
KOA
MCO
EWR
BNA
SFO
SEA
STL
EGE
IAD

you forgot nonstop LAX-SJU on a 752 probably the longest flight. AA Flight # 254; flight time is 6:25hrs; 3,385 miles. Westbound AA flight # 285 logs a flight a time of 7:45hrs. Is this the longest 752 flight for now?



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User currently offlineLX64A332 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2007, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11707 times:

Also, AA flies a 757 to EGE (seasonally)

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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11595 times:

LAX-XNA is Eagle as well; and I believe it is being cancelled, yes?

What is the purpose of this 777 flight? I know it keeps a plane in use that otherwise would be sitting around, but is that the only reason? Its scheduled times are not really great for Latin American connections with the exception of red-eyes coming and going...what are the load factors like?

dp MIA 8:15 AM AA #299
ar LAX 11:00 AM

dp LAX 12:15 PM AA #1520
ar MIA 8:00 PM



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11573 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
Its scheduled times are not really great for Latin American connections with the exception of red-eyes coming and going..

Redeyes make up the majority of the premium traffic between the U.S. and Latin America, and if one wants to fly AA to Belo Horizonte, Buenos Aires, La Paz, Montevideo, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador or Santiago, a redeye is the only option (all except LPB/REC/SSA operate returns to MIA exclusively as redeyes, as well).

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
what are the load factors like?

I take this flight at least monthly and it is always jam packed.

AA's average load factor on their seven MIA-LAX flights in 2Q08 was 92%.

The flight also takes a good amount of cargo.

While the flight number is not identical, the plane usually continues to Tokyo and a good amount of AA's MIA-NRT traffic goes via LAX.



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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7271 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11374 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
What is the purpose of this 777 flight? I know it keeps a plane in use that otherwise would be sitting around, but is that the only reason? Its scheduled times are not really great for Latin American connections with the exception of red-eyes coming and going...what are the load factors like?

MIA-LAX is a pretty big market to begin with. AA flys MIA-LAX 7X daily. Also most long haul South American flights are red eyes so the timing is perfect for both the connections and aircraft.



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1551 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11364 times:

Does anyone know how difficult it is to get a business class seat on the 2 class 777? I know you have to wait until after OLCI opens.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11258 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 10):
Does anyone know how difficult it is to get a business class seat on the 2 class 777? I know you have to wait until after OLCI opens.

There is no 2-class 772 service. It is a 3-class flight. There will be a 2-class 762 service come January 31st, but both the J and F cabin will be sold as F, as opposed to the norm of selling the F cabin as F and giving J seats to full-Y and elites. In the case of two-class services where the J cabin is sold as Y, the chances of getting an F seat are near impossible unless you have status or buy a full-fare Y ticket.



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User currently offlineKeny156 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11257 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 3):
The 762 also does a MIA-JFK-MIA turn.
AA 299 and AA 1520 are sold as a three-class service.

ya i forgot about the mia-jfk

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 4):
No, AA's MIA-LAX 772 flight is a 3-class service.

i consider mia-lax a transcon flight which if there is a 67 or 77 there is 3 class service.

Quoting LX64A332 (Reply 6):
Also, AA flies a 757 to EGE (seasonally)

I have that listed

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
LAX-XNA is Eagle as well; and I believe it is being cancelled, yes?

Not that I know of, yes it is eagle but xna is a great non rev city used it a few times.


User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1551 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11249 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
There is no 2-class 772 service. It is a 3-class flight. There will be a 2-class 762 service come January 31st, but both the J and F cabin will be sold as F, as opposed to the norm of selling the F cabin as F and giving J seats to full-Y and elites. In the case of two-class services where the J cabin is sold as Y, the chances of getting an F seat are near impossible unless you have status or buy a full-fare Y ticket.

I meant sold as two class. I assume you mean J in the last sentence instead of F. I thought it was pretty tough.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11237 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 13):
I meant sold as two class.

It is not sold as 2-class. MIA-LAX 772 is sold as 3-class.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11223 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
MIA-LAX 772 is sold as 3-class.

I love that flight and I'm so glad that it's sold as a three-class service. I've been real lucky in terms of getting upgraded, I've never had any problems whatsoever. I guess having status really helps out.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11167 times:

I did not know that so many Miami-Latin American flights were red-eyes. It makes perfect sense, though.

What kind of paid yields does AA get on the F and J classes of this flight? Does it add to the revenue? Or is it mostly upgrades?

Too bad we in San Diego can't even get a 738 SAN-MIA...



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11142 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 16):
What kind of paid yields does AA get on the F and J classes of this flight? Does it add to the revenue? Or is it mostly upgrades?

There is good premium demand between Miami and Los Angeles, mostly entertainment industry and high-end leisure. Not to mention that there is good premium demand between L.A. and deep South America that connects on this flight.

I fly the route often, on this very flight, and have status. Maybe it’s because I always take it on a Friday, but if I don’t pay for a J fare, my upgrade rarely ever clears, and neither do most people judging by how long the upgrade standby list is on the LCD screens.



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1551 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11081 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):

Sorry again, I meant 2349. I ignored the fact MIA-LAX was being talked about.



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User currently offlineDoug From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 858 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11056 times:

I think there will be an eighth flight added between MIA-LAX before the end of 09.

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11038 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 16):
I did not know that so many Miami-Latin American flights were red-eyes. It makes perfect sense, though.

By 5:30 am flights from SCL, EZE, MVD, GRU, GIG, etc. have arrived at MIA; so a lot of passengers connect onto the 772 operated flight because of the timing of the flight.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 16):
Or is it mostly upgrades?

International arriving passengers that utilize this flight are usually the first to receive upgrades.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11017 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 20):

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 16):
Or is it mostly upgrades?

International arriving passengers that utilize this flight are usually the first to receive upgrades.

Only if the international passenger originated travel in J or F.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11012 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 21):
Only if the international passenger originated travel in J or F.

Yep, that also applies to passengers departing to other international destinations out of LAX who are ticketed in J or F, e.g. MIA-LAX-NRT.


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10958 times:



Quoting Keny156 (Reply 12):

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
LAX-XNA is Eagle as well; and I believe it is being cancelled, yes?

Not that I know of, yes it is eagle but xna is a great non rev city used it a few times.

LAX-XNA on MQ is ending on April 1st. It is really an oddball route that brings a plane that MQ uses on no other flight into LAX. XNA will still have extensive service from AA, including 3 daily MD-80s to DFW...



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User currently offlineL1011buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10865 times:

Refresh me, what cities are EGE and XNA?

25 Soxfan : For the MIA-LAX-MIA 777 flight, is there a significant difference in service between first and business (i.e. meal choices, entertainment, etc.)? Is i
26 Rafabozzolla : But, bottom line is... This seems to be a positioning flight. It's the plane that does LAX-NRT. Is that the reason why this flight HAS to be on a 777?
27 SCL767 : The meal service in F is comparable to IFS; while the meal service in J is comparable to Domestic F.
28 MAH4546 : No, there is no reason it has to be a 772, and it does not always continue to Tokyo. The 772s from Miami and Tokyo both arrive around 10AM and both d
29 OzarkD9S : How could you forget ORD?!?!?!
30 PanAm747 : EGE = Eagle, Colorado XNA = Northwest Arkansas (Fayetteville) - it replaced the old Drake Field.
31 Jacobin777 : If you put your cursor over the airport (i.e.-EGE and XNA in this case), the airport name and location will magically pop up..
32 Fjnovak1 : I live in Northwest Arkansas and we're very sad to lose that LAX flight...i only moved here in October of 2007, and when I came to town, we had 2x dai
33 Rojo : Not only for that flight but for any transcon AA has from MIA to the West Coast on B738's and B752's. Last week I flew MIA-LAS with a flight time of
34 MAH4546 : On west-bound trans-con flights, they usually show two films.
35 Keny156 : looks like today (dec 4) aa is doing a turn with the 777 from dfw to lax (flt#2407) and lax to dfw (flt#2440) before that 777 head to eze.
36 N62NA : Why are they doing this? Is it because they can sell 40 F class seats on the 762 and they figure that the 30 F on the 763 that sometimes does the 6pm
37 WeAreUnited : Has AA flown LAX-SEA in recent years? I'm pretty sure all AA flights on this route are operated by Alaska.
38 Elmothehobo : You're right, American doesn't serve SEA from LAX, and I don't think they have in at least a decade or longer. Post Reno Air merger, American picked
39 Keny156 : Yeah your right. Its all operated by Alaska
40 Triple7man : AA used to fly a 777 DFW-LAX-DFW. It was sold as a 2 class service. I have flown that flight many times as a non rev and was often able to get a seat
41 Aussie747 : Such a pain as i can't fly them on an Around the World ticket I have to go either via DFW or pay for an AS ticket same with YVR as well. C'mon one wo
42 AA767400 : The morning JFK-BDA on the 762 has been long gone. It no longer is being operated, nor is it coming back next summer. Leaving the sole evening 757 on
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