OzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5362 posts, RR: 21 Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15219 times:
Not trying to turn this into a trip report, but I flew STL-PIT-(RIC weather diversion)-DCA, DCA-CLT-STL this weekend.
STL-PIT: ERJ-145 TransStates.
PIT-(RIC)-DCA: CRJ-200 Air Wisonsin
DCA-CLT: 319 US mainline
CLT-STL: Republic E175
Seat 7A on all flights.
I took the indirect routing to experience 3 new types for me: CRJ, 319, E175.
I'm 5'11, 190lbs, average sized guy. The seats on the ERJ and CRJ were a tad narrow but not uncomfortable. 319 was what I expected, similar to Boeing narrowbodies. But I got to the E175 expecting something wonderful based on various opinions on here, at least compared to the smaller RJs.
What do I get? What seems to be an inch more width and a rock hard seat that felt like a park bench.
Am I missing something here? I fail to see what's so darn great about them...
By the way, my first experience on US as well and much to my surprise....the service and employees were perfectly acceptable!
PlaneInsomniac From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15135 times:
I cannot say anything about the airline you used, but I am a great fan of AC's E190s. I am actually going out of my way to catch flights on them. The seats are great, full AVOD IFE, and plenty of space. I am about 6' and 195 lbs, and think the AC E190s may be one of the best rides around. No middle seats - only window and aisle. The seats are easily as large and with comparable pitch to any narrowbody (e.g., A320 or 737) product in Y class out there. Sufficient overhead bin space. As a matter of fact, I would prefer a leg on an E190 to one on an A319 or the like. The one minor drawback is that the selection of food seems to be smaller. But since one has to buy the stuff on AC in Y class, I prefer bring-your-own anyway.
In any case, at least AC's E190s are a world apart from standard RJs (Emb or CRJ) or even turboprops. Maybe it depends a lot on the airline, but for me the new Embraers are among the best innovations in air travel in a long time.
Am I cured? Slept 5 hours on last long-haul flight...
N353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15114 times:
I just rode on a Compass E175 and I also found the "slim line" seats to be not living up to the hype. There is a complete lack of padding in the things. Other than that, though, I found the E-jet to be very nice!
KGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4409 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14887 times:
Quoting OzarkD9S (Thread starter): But I got to the E175 expecting something wonderful based on various opinions on here
I really don't know what you were expecting, but I've flown E-170s (Shuttle America) E-175s (Republic and Air Canada) and E-190s (Air Canada and JetBlue). Air Canada's E jets have seatback IFE and kneeroom galore. Republic probably has the most chairs per plane, but nevertheless, I'm 6'1" and fit without squishing.
If you're expecting 'Oil Baron First Class' on an E jet, forget it.
Tommy767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14839 times:
I have flown expressjet out of EWR several times and have thought that while the E145 has great take off and climb performance, the comforts of the ERJs are pretty bad. Forget the seats, what about ceiling height and overheads? It's pathetic when someone over the height of 5'10" has to dip his head down to walk through the cabin. It happens to me all the time. Also having to gate check anything that is a size bigger than a small duffle bag is just a hassle.
And the seats, while leather uncomfortable as well. All i've flown is PWM-EWR several times. But could you imagine OMA/OKC-EWR? Forget it, I'll take the risk and connect in ORD.
Tommy767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 14783 times:
Quoting Gigneil (Reply 8): I think the E-Jets are far more comfortable than most domestic 737s, and certainly than any other RJ on the market. That being said, sure they're not more comfortable than a jetBlue A320.
Oh true, my bad. When users say e-jets i tend to think they mean the embraer regional jets in general. I've actually never flown on the 170/190 yet.
An almost brandnew airplane had a seat that felt like a 50 year-old worn out sofa pillow. I not only sank to the bottom of the cushion, but the leather had me sliding out the entire flight! Had it not been for the seat belt, I would have slid onto the floor. I have NEVER been so anxious to get off a plane as this one!!
The worst part is, it was a brand new aircraft.
However, every ExpressJet airplane I ever flew had extraordinarily comfortable seats. Same plane, same seat, different comfort level.
It's all about what the airline chooses to install.
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21789 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 14353 times:
Quoting OzarkD9S (Thread starter): What do I get? What seems to be an inch more width and a rock hard seat that felt like a park bench.
Am I missing something here? I fail to see what's so darn great about them...
The rock hard seat is the choice of the airline, not the fault of the aircraft.
For example, I don't blame Boeing for DL's choice of hard seats with uncomfortable leather, because I've flown on other carriers with more padding and a more breathable fabric cover, on the same aircraft type.
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ERJ135 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 14251 times:
I never thought I would hear such negative comments about such a brilliant aircraft.
Fortunately Embraer can not be held accountable because they just build the aircraft and not the seats or IFE and don't supply the service or food either.
Based on these comments I could say the same of my first experience on a 777, A trip that could not end soon enough. It was not however Boeings fault as there was nothing wrong with the 777-300 I flew on, however the airline concerned failed miserably with seat choice. Funny enough the best Y seat I ever had was with the same airline but on a much smaller aircraft. Hmmmmmm!
Manu From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 406 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 13560 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 10): Seat pitch is exactly the same on all Ejets.
If you visit seatguru.com and look up the E175 on Air Canada, you'll see it says 32-34 inch seat pitch. US Airways E175 is 31-32. Very different...
I've flown on many RJ's and really enjoy the E175/190 on AC. This past week I flew on Mesa's CRJ200 and my seat was broken sort of. The bottom of the cushion is held by a flexible woven material that had sagged, so I felt like I had to slouch the whole flight. Lucky for me it was a short one.
They did a good job. It is no first class, but well above the standards on the little RJ's. Being 6', I always am pressed for leg room.
ACdreamliner From UK - Scotland, joined May 2005, 520 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12842 times:
i'm 6'1 and over 300lbs and flew on flybe's 195 last year without any problems at all. more than enough room to move and plenty of leg room. i would recommend them to anyone (just watch out for the dash 8-'q?' 400. or the LAF8 as one of my non-aviation mates called it, referring to it being loud as f... well you get the picture...
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4374 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12486 times:
In general, I do find the E-Jets to be among the best smaller planes out there. I can't say I have flown on the airline you selected - and therefore I cannot comment on their seats - but the aircraft itself is great!
Based on my experience on JetBlue's E190s, you never forget you are on a smaller plane when compared to, say, an A320 or 737 (nevermind a 767 or something larger). The lav space is going to be tight but I've found overhead luggage room to be acceptable and I love the giant windows! I never got to fly in a Vickers Viscount, but the large windows in that aircraft come to mind every time I sit in an E-Jet (even though the Viscount's windows were much larger). Performance and sound level are comparable to the aforementioned narrowbodied jetliners - however you definitely feel like you are on a smaller plane, especially during turbulence or a tight pattern on approach.
In summary, I'd gladly choose any E-Jet over any CRJ/ERJ but for a longer flight, I guess it depends on the airline and the comfort level of the seats they chose.
Brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4485 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12007 times:
Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 6): I have flown expressjet out of EWR several times and have thought that while the E145 has great take off and climb performance, the comforts of the ERJs are pretty bad. Forget the seats, what about ceiling height and overheads?
These are not E jets but ERJ. They are possibly the worst aircraft I have ever flown and that includes a DHC-Beaver float plane up in the NWT.
The entry way makes you have to hunch over and I cannot stand up straight in these aircraft. The seats must have been designed for the Munchkins in OZ because that's about all the room you have. The washrooms are a joke, just be thankful you will probably never have to fly on one long enough to have need of the facilities. Don't even think of bringing any carry on luggage as there are no places big enough to store it except under the seat in front of you, which the gives you absolutely no room for your feet. In short, no pun intended, these planes are horrible.
On the other hand I have flown very comfortably on the E-175 and the E190 of AC and they are worlds apart. With ample leg room and comfortable seats they are really nice to travel in for two or three hours.
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3928 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11612 times:
Given the choice, I'll take an E170/175/190 over a CRJ-700 or -900. The bigger CRJs aren't too bad, but the E-Jets seem more spacious & feel more like a mainline jet.
Similarly, I'll take an ERJ-135 or 145 any day of the week over a CRJ-200. Never have been much of a fan of the original CRJs. The windows that even I myself have to lean down to look out of at 5'5" have been a pet peeve of mine.
PHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7589 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 11443 times:
I've only had 3 experiences with the E-jets (twice w/US Express (Republic) (1-170 & 1-175) and once with NW (Compass E-175)) and the seats were essentially the same type except maybe the color of the leather.
To me, while the seat cushions were thin, it was certainly a lot more comfortable than seats on NW's DC-9s and A319s/320s. Those have to be the worst in terms of padding IMHO; HP's A320s are a close second.
One attractive feature on the E-jet seats (at least on the ones I've ridden) was the adjustable headrests (that can be raised). In many respects, this feature allows one to rest their head completely on the cushion.
My concern/beef is with the dual-class configuration on, at least, the Compass planes. The positioning of all the Coach Class seats with respect to the windows is completely off. If one wants to look out the window, they either have to lean forward of backwards to do so. Do the US E-190 seats (which operate as mainline and also have dual-class seating) do similar?
This was NOT an issue on the single-class Republic planes (operating as US Express). I have since issued a comment to SeatGuru.com about the Compass seating. I'm not 100% sure if the site has been updated as of yet to reflect my comment.
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