YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3576 times:
They replaced them with 737 436's with the registration sequences G-DOCx.
The A320's acquired around this time was due to the takeover of BCal, who were one of the launch customers for this aircraft, and BA inherited the order. The current A32S replaces these 734's and 757's.
Rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3030 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3446 times:
Manchester based BAC1-11-510ED aircraft were replaced with 6 or 7 Boeing 737-236adv models these were then replaced with the second hand Boeing 737-500 aircraft currently being withdrawn at Gatwick.These Boeings were replaced with EMB145s and Dash8s
UK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2597 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3087 times:
Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 3): Birmingham was the last place to see BAC1-11s in BA colours.
...and by this time they were operated by Maersk Air (UK) Ltd - a BA franchise. I remember seeing these at NCL as late as 1997/98 operating from BHX in place of the J41.
Prior to that, the last BA BAC One Elevens I saw at NCL were the mainline ones operating the LHR services up until around 1992.
I'm desparate to take a flight on a BAC One Eleven having missed the opportunity while they were still operating in the UK with Maersk Air (UK) Ltd, British World Airlines & European Aircharter.
It seems now the only option to get a flight on a civil one is if Aquiline/Trast Aero is operating for a scheduled carrier. Last year they were operating for Aviacompany SCAT in Kazakhstan and earlier this year one was operating for Djibouti Airlines. What they are doing at the moment I do not know. Aquiline/Trast Aero is based in Bishkek, Kyrgistan. Any info on what their One Elevens are doing at the moment would be most appreciated.
LHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2744 times:
Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 5): was another enigma of a BAC1-11 that I completely forgot about G-BFWN
OK - so there was also an Air UK 1-11-400 that was leased for a short period in about 1988 or so: G-AXOX which flew in a hybrid livery (mainly white with an AirUK blue stripe - can't remember why it was leased in) from BHX.
Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 5): Only remember them visiting Manchester regularly on the combined BHX-MAN-Copenhagen run and ocasional weekend IT or Jersey service
That's probably the case - I know BHX pilots were driven up to MAN to position the aircraft back to BHX after those stints (even got the chance to fly ID-90 MAN-BHX on one of those flights, as BA still held route authority for MAN-BHX!)
A lot of BHX 4-day trips and longer consisted of nightstops at MAN - the crews operating 'W' routes...
FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2101 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2666 times:
On shorthaul there seems to be a bit of history for second time lucky for aircraft types with BEA/BA.
When BEA introduced the 1-11-500 it was under pressure from the Government of the day to buy British. BEA would have preferred to order the 737-200. Boeing must have felt confident a BEA order was due at some point as the airline was allocted a Boeing customer code - 18 - that has never been used.
When he need to replace the Tridents came about in the late 1970s BA ordered a mix of the brand new 757-236 (19 aircraft as joint launch customer with EA) and the 737-236 ADV (19 aircraft G-BGDA to G-BGDU). They were followed by a further 9 aircraft (G-BGJE to G-BGJM) for use by British Airtours, then a further 16 aircraft for use by mainline (G-BKYA to G-BKYP).
As has been said, with the BCal merger BA inherited that airlines 1-11 fleet alongside its order the the A320 (5 -111s and 5 -211s). The first aircraft remained at LGW for a few months before the fleet of A320s moved to LHR in October 1988.
In the late 1980s BA had to decide on an aircraft order to replace the 1-11s and picked the 737-436 over the A320-211. 27 aircraft were ordered (G-DOCA to G-DOCZ/G-GBTA/G-GBTB) though the last four were stored/leased out for a couple of years after delivery. The original order had allowed BA to switch the type of some aircraft to the -300 or -500 but this never happened.
The introduction of the 737-436 aircraft saw 737-236 ADV aircraft cascaded to LGW, MAN and BHX to replace the 1-11s.
Some of the -236 ADV aircraft themselves started to be replaced by brand new -300 aircraft leased in. The 737 at MAN/BHX was to replaced in turn by the newly ordered A319-131 fleet, and indeed BHX was built up as an Airbus base before BA switched strategy and started shifting the A319s to LHR to replace the eraly build 757-236 aircraft. This was a shift in strategy as BA's original plan for the late 1990s was for all LHRshorthaul flying to be on the 757-236 or 767-336ER (except for the 10 ex-BCal A320s), with BHX/MAN A319 bases, and LGW operating the A319 and 737-436 (with enough Airbus options to replace those aircarft with A319/A320 aircraft).
To release the A319s to LHR from BHX BA leased in 10 second-hand 737-500 aircraft to operate alongside the new leased 737-300s. 5 second-hand 737-300s were also leased in for LGW operations. Once BA acquired LGW based franchise carrier CityFlyer Express it moved theat carrier's Avro RJ100 fleet to MAN/BHX and the leased 737-300/-500 fleet moved to LGW, though the new-build leased -300s soon left the fleet.
Today the A319s are now eventually making their way to LGW to replace the leased 737-500/-300 aircraft, having being displaced from LHR by A320s.
The 1-11 fleet was named after English and Welsh counties, Scottish Regions and offshore Crown dependencies. The fleet I have on record (but I'm sure I've missed some) were: -
G-AVGP BAC 111-408EF County of Nottinghamshire MSN 114
G-AWBL BAC 111-416EK County of Leicestershire MSN 132
G-BBME BAC 111-401AK County of Worcestershire MSN 066
G-BBMF BAC 111-401AK County of Shropshire MSN 074
G-BBMG BAC 111-408EF County of Gloucestershire MSN 115
G-AVMH BAC 111-510ED County of Cheshire MSN 136
G-AVMI BAC 111-510ED County of Merseyside MSN 137
G-AVMJ BAC 111-510ED Strathclyde Region MSN 138
G-AVMK BAC 111-510ED County of Kent MSN 139
G-AVML BAC 111-510ED County of Surrey MSN 140
G-AVMM BAC 111-510ED MSN 141
G-AVMN BAC 111-510ED County of Essex MSN 142
G-AVMO BAC 111-510ED Lothian Region MSN 143
G-AVMP BAC 111-510ED Bailiwick of Jersey MSN 144
G-AVMR BAC 111-510ED County of Tyne and Wear MSN 145
G-AVMS BAC 111-510ED County of West Sussex MSN 146
G-AVMT BAC 111-510ED County of Berkshire MSN 147
G-AVMU BAC 111-510ED County of Dorset MSN 148
G-AVMV BAC 111-510ED County of Greater Manchester MSN 149
G-AVMW BAC 111-510ED Grampian Region MSN 150
G-AVMX BAC 111-510ED County of East Sussex MSN 151
G-AVMY BAC 111-510ED County of Derbyshire MSN 152
G-AVMZ BAC 111-510ED County of Lancashire MSN 153
G-AWYR BAC 111-501EX County of Suffolk MSN 174
G-AWYS BAC 111-501EX County of Norfolk MSN 175
G-AWYT BAC 111-501EX County of Gwynedd MSN 176
G-AWYU BAC 111-501EX County of Avon MSN 177
G-AWYV BAC 111-501EX County of Powys MSN 178
G-AXJK BAC 111-501EX County of Herefordshire MSN 191
G-AXJM BAC 111-501EX County Durham MSN 214
G-AXLL BAC 111-523FJ County of Yorkshire MSN 193
G-AYOP BAC 111-518FG County of Humberside MSN 233
G-AZMF BAC 111-530FX County of Northumberland MSN 240
G-AZPZ BAC 111-515FB Dumfries and Galloway Region MSN 229
G-BGKE BAC 111-539GL County of West Midlands MSN 263
G-BGKF BAC 111-539GL County of Warwickshire MSN 264
G-BGKG BAC 111-539GL County of Staffordshire MSN 265
G-BJRT BAC 111-528FL County of South Glamorgan MSN 234
G-BJRU BAC 111-528FL County of West Glamorgan MSN 238