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Arik Air Update 10/12/08  
User currently offlineGhDc10 From Canada, joined Dec 2008, 12 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5791 times:

Hey guys. I just signed up after years of being an observer and I am really excited to contribute some info to the community.

Arik Air has released images of cabin interiors for the A340-500 aircraft.
see the images here http://gate53.blogspot.com


http://gate53.blogspot.com
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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1940 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5756 times:

Is this the former Kingfisher interior? Or has Arik retrofitted the plane already? Nevertheless, great looking plane!

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5728 times:

It's basically IT's interior if you compare this pictures:

http://www.hifly.aero/images/A340_500_BC.jpg
http://www.hifly.aero/images/387.jpg

Configuration:

http://www.hifly.aero/images/lopa340Large.jpg

Schedule LOS-LHR (first flight 15th of December):

Mo - 1200 - 1730
Tu - 0920 - 1430
We - 1200 - 1730
Tu - 1025 - 1555
Fr - 1110 - 1640
Sa - 1030 - 1555
Su - 1025 - 1555

All flights depart LHR at 2205 - 0530

Rumour says that Arik Air may change the B787 order into a Airbus order. I really doubt so.


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 2175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5562 times:

What's the seat configuration?

They really only need one aircraft for the LHR turn. When are the next A345s coming, and what are they going to do with them? IAH right away?

What are people's thoughts about the timing? And is there enough demand for daily BA, daily VS, and daily IT?

This route is starting to remind me of India-UK. After years of capacity squeeze, suddenly many carriers entered the market and then it was overkill.


User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5529 times:



Quoting AF022 (Reply 3):
What's the seat configuration?

36/201

Quoting AF022 (Reply 3):
When are the next A345s coming, and what are they going to do with them?

January and March > Houston, New York, Dubai/China. Perhaps South Africa? Nigeria and SAA signed a new air agreement: http://business.iafrica.com/iacnews/1370900.htm

Quoting AF022 (Reply 3):
And is there enough demand for daily BA, daily VS, and daily IT?

Don't forget B3 and VK to LGW. Time will tell...


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 2175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5330 times:



Quoting ENU (Reply 4):
36/201

Wow - that's low density. Air Canada's planes operate (now with TAM) as 42/225 - 30 more seats than Arik.

Quoting ENU (Reply 4):
January and March > Houston, New York, Dubai/China

Which airport New York?

And I'm surprised about Dubai/China. I would think Arik would need high yield traffic from US and UK to offset high costs of operating A345. Neither DXB nor China generate high-yield traffic.


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4024 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

Looks as if Arik may be having some 2nd thoughts about IAH. Saw this last month at IAH Spotters...The link to the story is in the thread. Looks as if NYC (presumably JFK), will be their first US gateway, possibly followed by IAH. They seem to think that a DL MD80 via ATL with the same flight number is a threat. A confusing article to say the least.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iahspottersclub/message/30252


Came across this article concerning Arik Air's intentions too start
NYC and IAH service beginning early summer '09.

---

Nigeria's flag carrier, Arik Air, would begin its New York and
Houston's direct flight from Lagos during summer of 2009.

This comes as the airline has concluded plans to start operations on
Lagos-London route during the middle of next month, after taking
delivery of the first of its three Airbus A340-500 aircraft from
Toulouse, France, next week.

Arik Managing Director, Mr. Mike McTighe, told newsmen at a briefing
in Lagos yesterday that slots for both destinations were already
available from the U.S. government.

"We are also planning to commence operations to the USA, specifically
New York and Houston non-stop direct service from Lagos in early
summer 2009," McTighe said.

He said Arik might not be able to operate into the two U.S.
destinations using its own aircraft, as the Nigerian Civil Aviation
Authority (NCAA) is yet to be granted category one certification by
the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).

According to him, the airline will use wet-lease European aircraft to
service the two U.S. routes, pending the certification of the NCAA by
the U.S. government.

He said: " The NCAA is working assiduously to get FAA Category One
certification. But we have got traffic rights for wet-lease operation
as Nigeria is not Category One certified. We will wet-lease a European
aircraft for the operation."

Asked why Arik added New York destination against the Houston the
federal government designated it to fly into, McTighe said the
emergence of U.S. Delta Airlines informed the development, as the
American flies the direct Lagos-Houston route at the moment.

He explained that it would not make economic sense for Arik to start
operations in to Houston, even though a sizable population of
Nigerians live there.

"We found out also that a large population of Nigerians live in New
York, same as in London, and at the moment, there is no direct flight
to New York from Lagos," said McTighe, who disclosed that the
airline's first set of 14 cadet pilots trained at the Nigerian College
of Aviation Technology (NCAT) would be graduating next week to
coincide with the delivery of its A340-500 plane to be deployed for
the London operation.

McTighe said Arik would serve both Nigerian and continental menu on
its London flight, adding that passengers would also have the
opportunity of monitoring live CNN news and Super Sports programme on
DSTV during flight.

He said the new wide-bodied aircraft from Airbus would be delivered to
Abuja December 4 where it would be received by top federal government
officials.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/content/view/22641/46/

---

The article is a little confusing since it says Arik Air will fly to
Houston, then later on it says it won't because Delta already does.
I'm guessing that if Nigeria gets Category One status and is able to
use it's own aircraft then they will fly to IAH. Otherwise, if they
have to lease an aircraft then they will only fly to NYC. That's how
I read it but I could be wrong.

Jim


Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineFlitemax From Spain, joined Aug 2007, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

I'm pleasantly surprised by Arik's return airfare on London-Lagos axis. 630 euros for 4-night stay in Lagos, booked a mere 3 weeks to departure.

Now THAT's cheap.

Kudos to Arik. At long last, a truly Nigerian airline brings fares down. May further competition with BA/VS/VK/B3 empower passengers who have been held hostage for so, so many years in this market.


User currently offlineDALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5058 times:

How are the projected loads for the LOS-LHR-LOS when they start? It usually is a very high demand route, especially in economy.


Zanair flight, please hold on finals as we have to clear rhino's off the runway. Next flight KUL-FRA-AMS Flown in A319,A
User currently offlineKbdude From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

On a related Arik Air update... any update on the contract negotiations with Boeing on the 747-8i order of 4 frames?

Will they soon cancel these purchase intentions?


http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2008/q3/080715d_nr.html


User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4825 times:

How does this airline plan to sell its tickets? Neither Sabre nor Amadeus show their new LHR flights, and their website crashed my computer! Trying to market long haul service outside of the GDS channel has only worked for lcc's, not for carriers trying to establish themselves in the premium/full service category.


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User currently offlineFlitemax From Spain, joined Aug 2007, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Give it some time, their Accra flights are listed on GDS.

Yesterday they announced their GSA in the UK.

Also, it's now possible (at least for people resident in Nigeria) to purchase their ticket directly from the www.arikair.com website.

I'm also quite intrigued as for the reason their entire domestic network is not listed on any GDS.


User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4759 times:



Quoting Flitemax (Reply 11):
Give it some time, their Accra flights are listed on GDS.

Which GDS do you use? I tried to find their Accra flights in Amadeus and came up empty. Sabre doesn't even recognize the W3 code as belonging to Arik Air, so no point checking there.



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4700 times:
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Quoting AF022 (Reply 3):
And is there enough demand for daily BA, daily VS, and daily IT?

Yes.

Spoke to their Chief Pilot this evening. They are all set for service to London.

With Virgin Nigeria and Bellview not making any efforts to exercise their rights to JFK and EWR. it makes sense for Arik to fill the void left by North American. Nigerians in the New York/New Jersey area fly more as a group than Nigerians in the Houston area. Nigerians in the North East earn far more than their Southern counter parts. It makes sense for Arik to work a known market before attempting a new market.



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User currently offlinePRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4509 times:



Quoting LH459 (Reply 12):
Which GDS do you use? I tried to find their Accra flights in Amadeus and came up empty

Try to do following in Amadeus
TN1A15DECLOSACC/AW3
you will get the schedule info for the segment



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4260 times:
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Thisday Newspaper of Nigeria is reporting today that Arik Air flight W3 001 will depart LOS at 12 Noon on December 15, 2008 for the first of its daily flights to Terminal 2 LHR. Return flights from LHR (W3 002) will depart daily at 10.05pm and arrive LOS 5.30am.

Arik Air becomes the first privately owned Nigerian Airline to fly a brand new aircraft to London and the first African Airline to fly the A345.



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User currently offlineYYZ757FAN From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Arik Air has 2 Dash 8-400's sitting at Bombardiers delievery hangar at YYZ Toronto for several weeks . They look like they are all ready to go. Anyone have any idea on a time line for their delievery to Nigeria??

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