Olympic472 From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 406 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 12007 times:
Very useful for me. Your effort is appreciated. Thank you.
C767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 863 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11530 times:
These are aircraft that I have that are in the new scheme that are not listed above:
735: 913
733: 301, 306, 307, 327, 331
757: 567, 593
777: 213
There are some that have gone to the desert in the new scheme, I believe the following are in the desert in the new scheme:
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5338 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11469 times:
Quoting C767P (Reply 2): Would you by chance have a list of the active 737 fleet?
I added these aircraft to the list all the rest of the 737s that you listed I show as retired, and I typed 337 instead of 327 so I made that change as well. Thanks for the additional information.
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UA Livery Update – Aircraft in the current blue/white colors including the 16 Ted aircraft that have been repainted into mainline colors.
C767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 863 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11391 times:
Thanks for the update on the active 737s. They have ditched a lot in a short amount of time and I slipped up on following the process.
Fun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 839 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11299 times:
Straight from UAL - not sure if you've included the Dec. additions.
New Configurations -- We expect one B767 and two B747’s in Nov, and three B767’s and three B747’s in Dec. Routes opening up in November include SFO-SYD and in December ORD-CDG and LAX-SYD. --
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5338 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11179 times:
Quoting Fun2fly (Reply 5): New Configurations -- We expect one B767 and two B747's in Nov, and three B767's and three B747's in Dec. Routes opening up in November include SFO-SYD and in December ORD-CDG and LAX-SYD. --
I've got two 763s and two 744s so far for December (the one with the asterisk are in process or due out any day now) they should be able to get one more of each done this month but I'm not sure which ships are going in yet.
Quoting C767P (Reply 4): Thanks for the update on the active 737s. They have ditched a lot in a short amount of time and I slipped up on following the process.
Not a problem, the 737 retirement is going to continue too be fairly rapid from what I understand till the summer when it will level off around 20-30 aircraft until next fall when the remaining ships are retired. I know they kept a few more 737s around then they had originally planned in order to help with the Ted repaint.
FL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1499 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11114 times:
Why is the repaint taking so long? 37% in four years?
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5338 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11068 times:
Quoting FL787 (Reply 7): Why is the repaint taking so long? 37% in four years?
UA has not (or had not up until the Ted repaint) been taking aircraft out of service simply to paint them as rapidly as possible instead they are painting them as they need to be painted. The last time UA changed liveries it took 6 or 7 years to repaint the entire fleet. If you count the Ted fleet into the mix UA has repainted about 50% of its fleet in a little less then 4 years.
SNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1511 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11055 times:
Quoting FL787 (Reply 7): Why is the repaint taking so long? 37% in four years?
Didnt NW and UA introduce new liverys around the same time? There are only a few NW planes, Airbus', that are floating around in old colors. Seems like NW did it quicker.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5338 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11011 times:
Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 9): Didnt NW and UA introduce new liverys around the same time?
NWs was in April of 2003
UAs was in February of 2004
NW has something like 27 aircraft left in the bowling shoe livery.
Azncsa4qf744er From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 671 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11000 times:
Ordramper98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 85 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10807 times:
United1,
I'm not sure, because I haven't seen them in a while, but I don't think 543 or 545 have winglets yet. If they do, they haven't changed the aircraft numbers yet to 5900 series.
SNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1511 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10770 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 10): NW has something like 27 aircraft left in the bowling shoe livery.
So NW sitll got it done faster. 27? It seems like a lot less then that.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5338 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10735 times:
Quoting Ordramper98 (Reply 12): United1,
I'm not sure, because I haven't seen them in a while, but I don't think 543 or 545 have winglets yet. If they do, they haven't changed the aircraft numbers yet to 5900 series.
ordramper98
Its possible the information I got came from multiple sources and while I tried to verify all of the wiglet info there simply are not allot of pics in all of of the databases to do it.
Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 13): Quoting United1 (Reply 10):
NW has something like 27 aircraft left in the bowling shoe livery.
So NW still got it done faster. 27? It seems like a lot less then that.
It's not a race....
UA repaints its aircraft when they need it, If NW does it differently then good for them, not to mention that UAs fleet is larger then NWs.
According to the koolaiders site there are 27 or so aircraft left in the bowling shoe livery.
Klkla From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 803 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10654 times:
Quoting Fun2fly (Reply 5): New Configurations -- We expect one B767 and two B747’s in Nov, and three B767’s and three B747’s in Dec. Routes opening up in November include SFO-SYD and in December ORD-CDG and LAX-SYD. --
When does UA plan to complete the entire retrofit of international aircraft?
Quoting United1 (Thread starter): UA Livery Update – Aircraft in the current blue/white colors including the 16 Ted aircraft that have been repainted into mainline colors.
What percentage of aircraft that are being retained (minus the 737's leaving the fleet) have been painted in the new livery? In what year did they introduce the new Livery? When do they plan on completing the entire fleet?
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5338 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10615 times:
Quoting Klkla (Reply 15): When does UA plan to complete the entire retrofit of international aircraft?
The original date was going to be year end 2009 however that has slipped to sometime in 2010 due to the 777s needing to be retrofitted with new Y class seats to accommodate the new PTVs. The 763/744 fleet will be done by early/mid 2009, the 777 fleet should be done by mid 2010.
Quoting Klkla (Reply 15): What percentage of aircraft that are being retained (minus the 737's leaving the fleet) have been painted in the new livery?
As of today 36% when you take out the 737s however that number jumps to 47% when you count the Ted 320s which should finish repaint in the next few months.
Quoting Klkla (Reply 15): In what year did they introduce the new Livery?
Feb 2004
Quoting Klkla (Reply 15): When do they plan on completing the entire fleet?
Good question, the last time UA changed liveries it took 6 or 7 years to repaint the entire fleet, UA is not rushing to repaint the fleet (except for the Ted planes) and only repaints the aircraft when they need it.
SYfan100 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 587 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 10569 times:
Most Airlines will now repaint most of their aircraft when it comes time for a heavy check.
Makes more sense to do the heavy check while installing new seats along with getting new paint on, then just pulling a aircraft out of service for paint and no new seats.
However I think it is a waste of money when a Airline knows a Dc-9 or Boeing 737 is going to be retired, but yet they paint it in the new colors. Then one month later it is sitting in the desert getting a sun tan with its engines removed.
N104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 889 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9947 times:
WOW thanks for the Update
"Learn the rules, so you know how to break them properly." -H.H. The Dalai Lama
DC8FanJet From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 381 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9687 times:
Last I knew, there are still plans to do a 744, then there wld be a Star a/c in each of
the international fleets. Pretty much the same at all the Star carriers.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7162 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9220 times:
So,painting is the reason I've seen UA planes in and out of ROW.
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5338 posts, RR: 8 Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9188 times:
Quoting Ordramper98 (Reply 12): I'm not sure, because I haven't seen them in a while, but I don't think 543 or 545 have winglets yet
Quoting LH744 (Reply 20): Are you sure, N228UA has new colours.
I double checked and your both right thanks for the help, I also updated the interior conversion list as N648UA went into the shop and N658UA is back in service.
Chuck
UA Livery Update – Aircraft in the current blue/white colors including the 16 Ted aircraft that have been repainted into mainline colors.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6088 posts, RR: 56 Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8417 times:
Saw N213UA Sunday 14 Dec and it's still in the old livery. It flew UA 82 HNL-LAX.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
25 LH744: N318UA and N347UA are still active. N318UA last night on UA1219 and N347UA this morning first flight as UA224. N913UA also active, last night as UA117
26 United1: Cool thanks keeping up with the 737 fleet these days is not easy
27 AWACSooner: This livery has been out for HOW LONG now...and they've only gotten this far? Jeez...this has got to be the slowest repaint operation of all time.
29 United787: Thank you for keeping up my list and adding the winglets and interior lists! With the retirement of the 737 fleet and the end of TED, this process see
30 United1: The way it was explained to me is that the 777s IFE system can't be split between F/J and Y so new PTVs had to be outfitted in Y however the ones for
31 United1: Here are the updated Winglet and Ineriro fleet list I will update the livery list a little later... B752s with winglets (all in new colors) 517, 518,
32 United787: Well I hope the second step is adding PTVs to the 744 Y class. I understand there are cost, weight and space issues but being on 8+ hour flight witho
33 LAXintl: As part of the new seats, UA will switch to a 3-3-3 config instead of current 2-5-2 That was the plan. Retrofits were stopped to conserve CapEx spend
35 DC8FanJet: It isn't a race, nor is it a priority. Paint on an aircraft is mostly a maintenance issue, and as it has been addressed over and over on A-net, paint
36 United787: Terrible news. I love the 2-5-2 because I have always been able to grab the 2 with my wife and never had to sit anywhere in the 5. And even if I did,
37 United_Fan: So,is there any news on Channel 9 being blocked by pilots,still? So,is UA getting some of their planes painted in ROW? I see them coming and going fr
38 Joeljack: It was on with all 4 of my flights last week. A 733, 757, A320 and 763 (domestic config)
39 Drerx7: Yep - channel 9 was on on my 757 monday - UA1184 DEN-IAH.
40 DeltaL1011man: What is the update on them maybe keeping the 6 744s?
46 Olympic472: Did UA consider changing the 777 Y cabin to a 3-4-2 config? The 2-5-2 config gives an exaggerated cramped feel with the middle 5 seats. The proposed 3
47 AAH732UAL: UA doesn't care about passenger comfort as much as they do about seats to sell. 2-5-2 will be around to stay, I guarantee it. Plus I don't think 3-4-
48 LH744: Apparently N791UA isn´t painted in the new colours. There is a picture from January 6th from LHR http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6458486 sh
49 United1: 2*5*2 is becoming 3*3*3 I guarantee it.... AFAIK UA (and for that matter any airline) is not considering 2*4*3. Cool thank you....
50 LAXintl: You better get ready to eat your words. Going 3-3-3 http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4274635/
51 AAH732UAL: Wow then..... this a sort of a welcomed change I personally love the 2 seats by myself in economy plus but O well.
52 LH744: Another B737-300 went to the desert. N326UA has been flown to GYR on Saturday Jan 10th. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...6/history/20090110/1703
53 LH744: N927UA, a 737-500 went to Victorville on Jan 13th http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...2/history/20090113/1803Z/KSFO/KVCV
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