Shawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3944 times:
I agree with GOT. LH AND UA are going to make lots of cash on this route. UAL will also add a daily 777 flight to FRA from DEN starting in the summer (does anybody know what date?), so I think they too know that this route will be a money-maker.
747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3930 times:
Does anyone think like I do, that this may really hurt BA not only in Denver but also Phoenix? LH will have the capability to draw all the connecting passengers too, possibly many of them away from BA. As we all know LH is in the powerful Star Alliance and BA is kind of out there by itself at least in Denver. Perhaps slowly, very very slowly BA will realize that in order for them to be as successful as LH in Denver and other markets its time for openskies in the UK. Just my thoughts on the matter.
BizJet From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3925 times:
Yes, I'm not sure if has been officially announced yet or not, but United is planning on starting their own DEN-FRA nonstop for peak summer travel season. It will be using 777's. United is updating the 777-200XI aircraft (noses 27XX/28XX) engines to have greater takeoff thrust to make Denver to Europe runs on hot summer day, due to the temperature and altitude of DIA.
This represents United's first intercontinental flight from its sizable Denver hub (codeshare operated by LH -- the only other int'l flights from DEN by UA are Mexico and Canada). It should do well, since the feed is there and there will be lots of O&D.
There are plenty of rumors circulating about a DEN-LGW nonstop, but I'm not so sure. They can't fly into Heathrow because Denver isn't covered by Bermuda II, and I doubt they will open up a whole Gatwick station just for this flight. But if they are going to open up a new station for this flight, they could add some other less-marquis destinations. For example, AA has to maintain a LGW station to have a flight to DFW (Not covered by Bermuda II and thus no LHR), so they also have a flight RDU-LGW. This is an extremely profitable route for them, since they have dozens of contracts with pharmacutical companies in the Research Triange with offices in the UK. Normally it is a 767-200 in the winter and a 767-300 in the summer, but this summer it is going to a 777-200.
As a side note, Phoenix service begins today as well (LH448/LH449). This is a big advancement for the city of Phoenix, as now they have another intercontinental nonstop to complement BA's daily 747-400 to Gatwick. They do have a very nice international terminal there (Barry Goldwater Terminal 4).