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A Cold Splash Of Irish Aviation: 42/08  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12565 posts, RR: 35
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12767 times:

Good morning folks and welcome to what may be our last thread of 2008; we got up to about 60+ last year, so the economic downturn has obviously had an effect on our loquaciousness!

Anyway, thanks to MO'L, there is plenty of excitement around ... EI is mounting a strong defence and even hinting at future plans What is most interesting is that it is apparently looking for a white knight; good luck with finding someone who wants to be an equal shareholder with FR.

Pax numbers have finally began to dip after about seven years of year on year gains; it will be interesting to see how the Christmas holiday period fares (and for those of us having to return home at Christmas, the fares, period!) It'll be particularly interesting to see how declining loads (which I am sure are not restricted to DUB) affect EI and FR and how they adjust (if they can) their business model to face the downturn. FR should be receiving its first new aircraft deliveries in about 3 months now, but will there be sufficient airlines to take the aircraft it is retiring?

Well, I'm off home to Dublin this evening, for the weekend, via Beautiful Downtown Luton (fog permitting!), so I will drop in anon and say hello.

Enjoy!

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User currently offlineN272WA From Ireland, joined Jun 2007, 410 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12639 times:

Air Canda AC861 from London Heathrow to Halifax is diverting into Shannon in the next few minutes. It's a 767-300.


Next: (EI)DUB-ORD-DUB, DUB-EWR-IAH-DFW-MSY-AUS-AMA-DEN-EWR-DUB
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27245 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12605 times:

Afternoon all from a very rainy Athens!!

Some news items :

CityJet expands onto London/Schiphol route

Thursday December 11 2008

CityJet which currently flies the Dublin-London City Airport route is taking over the London City - Amsterdam Schiphol route from VLM and KLM Cityhopper in the New Year.
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-n...-londonschiphol-route-1572039.html
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Aer Lingus steps up battle against 'pathetic' Ryanair bid

Friday December 12 2008

Shane Hickey

THE board of Aer Lingus issued a fresh rejection of a potential merger with Ryanair in a meeting with the Government yesterday.

Chief executive Dermot Mannion said the financial amount being offered by Ryanair was "a pathetic sum" compared to the €1.3bn the airline has on its balance sheet.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...-pathetic-ryanair-bid-1572717.html

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Friday, December 12, 2008

Air workers vote yes to 15% pay cut

By Stephen Rogers
WORKERS at maintenance and ground-handling provider Aviance have voted two to one in favour of a 15% pay cut that will save 150 jobs at Dublin airport.

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer...qqa=ireland-qqqid=79843-qqqx=1.asp

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Friday, December 12, 2008

DAA to service debt until airports separate

By Stephen Rogers
A GOVERNMENT TD has claimed Cork airport’s debt for its new terminal will remain with Dublin airport until the country’s airports separate in three years time.

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer...qqa=ireland-qqqid=79844-qqqx=1.asp

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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19245 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12593 times:

http://www.anna.aero/2008/12/12/ryan...lufthansas-dominance-of-frankfurt/


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineBramble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12570 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
WORKERS at maintenance and ground-handling provider Aviance have voted two to one in favour of a 15% pay cut that will save 150 jobs at Dublin airport

Thats painful for those staff to have to accept. Hard times for he best independant handling agent (from a workers point of view) at the airport.


User currently offlineJWMD123 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12540 times:



Quote:
Ryanair's Aer Lingus pledges broke rules
Friday, 12 December 2008 15:21
The Irish Takeover Panel has said Ryanair broke stock exchange rules when it gave a number of commitments in relation to its bid for Aer Lingus, announced last week. The panel is the watchdog for takeover deals on the Irish Stock Exchange.

Ryanair had said it would give the Government control over Aer Lingus's slot at Heathrow Airport, and also gave guarantees that it would cut the airline's short-haul fares by 5% and quickly eliminate Aer Lingus fuel surcharges.

The Takeover Panel said these breached stock exchange rules as they were arrangements with one shareholder - the Government - and were not being extended to all shareholders. It has prohibited Ryanair from giving these commitments as part of any offer for Aer Lingus.

Ryanair also said it would recognise trade unions at Aer Lingus and restore the Shannon-Heathrow link. The panel told Ryanair not to give these pledges without consulting it to clear up whether they fall within the rules.

Ryanair announced on December 1 that it was offering €1.40 a share in a second attempt to take over Aer Lingus, in which it already has a 29% stake.

I don't think FR have actually published the offer document yet. If this is the case then the above must not be included. This in essance does not make the deal as strong as MO'L made out it was for the govt in that it cannot control the LHR slots


User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1385 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12502 times:

While it is on the back of the FR bid I have no doubt - a very welcome move by EI

Aer Lingus Group Plc, the Irish airline that’s received a second takeover offer from Ryanair
Holdings Plc, removed all fuel surcharges on long-haul flights.
The change, announced in a statement today, comes into effect immediately.


Pilot21



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12491 times:



Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 6):
Aer Lingus Group Plc, the Irish airline that’s received a second takeover offer from Ryanair
Holdings Plc, removed all fuel surcharges on long-haul flights.

I just noticed it while looking at fares to IAD, they were advertising much lower fares so I wondered what had happened and then I saw the surcharge wasn't showing up while booking.

Good move by Aer Lingus.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12468 times:

Will the base fare go up now thwy have romoved the surcharges?

[Edited 2008-12-12 09:20:38]


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12454 times:



Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 8):
Will the base fare go up now thwy have romoved the surcharges?

Yes it already has, Aer Lingus couldn't get rid of the surcharge and not make up for it elsewhere. There has been some reduction though, all fares seem slightly cheaper. They've done what I hoped they would.


User currently offlineEIDAA From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 831 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12421 times:



Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 9):
Yes it already has, Aer Lingus couldn't get rid of the surcharge and not make up for it elsewhere. There has been some reduction though, all fares seem slightly cheaper. They've done what I hoped they would.

Agreed, it's great to see. Just a shame that my parents booked flights in the last few days, before the end of the recent "sale"... the total fare has actually now dropped slightly with the removal of the surcharge... so be it!



Most Flown:- G-BUVA (20 Flights), EI-DEB (12 Flights), EI-JFK (11 Flights)
User currently offlineRojam From Ireland, joined Nov 2007, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12416 times:



Quoting JWMD123 (Reply 5):
I don't think FR have actually published the offer document yet.

Doesn't matter - Ryanair Holdings PLC is an exchange-listed public company making an offer for another exchange-listed public company, Aer Lingus - releasing any impartial information into the public domain, regardless of whether the conduit was the exchanges' regulatory or non-regulatory news services, contravenes trading rules (on multiple levels, but mainly as it gives unfair advantage to some shareholders to the disadvantage of others, including Ryanair's own).


Great that EI have removed the annoying fuel surcharge. In the base fare ticket price is where it should have always been. One less thing for Michael O'Leary to nitpick on.



Glad to be down from the sky for an extended period.
User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12389 times:

Fuel surcharge gone and not a moment too soon, given the market conditions.

Must take a look at the website to see how competitive the quotes are now.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4656 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12347 times:

Brilliant news! I am glad the surcharges are gone...

Aer Lingus do seem very reactive though... "Ryanair says this, EI does this" type of thing...



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27245 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12324 times:



Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 13):
Brilliant news! I am glad the surcharges are gone...

With the way fuel is at the moment there is no need for it .Just hope the oil stays down.

I need to ask someone for a favor for a Reg that Im finding hard to get. What Reg operated my flight this morning CDG-ATH CA963 Air China A330-200? Would appreciate any help.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4656 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12306 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 14):
With the way fuel is at the moment there is no need for it .Just hope the oil stays down.

Oh, I agree...

Meanwhile, I might need a new job come April. I was given notice of "at risk of redundancy" the other day... 100 people got it, 80 are going, so I don't like my chances. If I go and don't find a job, it's back to Sydney for me  Sad

The fact is, I'm ready for a career change to airport/airline and there is nothing in Ireland (where I am restricted to work to, thanks to Visa) available. Nor do I know anyone "in the know". So yes, fun times. I'll know for sure on 5 February  Smile So until then, it's onwards and upwards... (secretly dissing Finance companies!)



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27245 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12288 times:



Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 15):
Meanwhile, I might need a new job come April. I was given notice of "at risk of redundancy" the other day... 100 people got it, 80 are going, so I don't like my chances. If I go and don't find a job, it's back to Sydney for me  

Sorry to hear that Im the same..Jan/Feb will be make or break and if the figures dont add up then they will be looking for staff cuts. I actually would take it as I have an good idea what the package would be and for me and my personal circumstances I would take it. Nothing like the EI package unfortunately but still not too bad. Sometimes you have to be forced into a situation to do something else that actually works out better.

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Is there a current list of EI lounges and GC access lounges abroad?


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4656 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12281 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
I actually would take it as I have an good idea what the package would be and for me and my personal circumstances I would take it.

Agreed... my package would be enough to pay off all my debts and have extra to spare, so I am not exactly crying about it. Still, it means a lot of decisions, should it happen.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
Is there a current list of EI lounges and GC access lounges abroad?

Is the lounge list on the EI web site not up to date?



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12273 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
Is there a current list of EI lounges and GC access lounges abroad?

Aer Lingus have one on their website and it looks like it has been updated recently. You can find it in the "About The Club" section of aerlingus.com under Frequent Flyer Programme.


User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12245 times:

Airport Name of Lounge
IRL
Cork Jack Lynch Executive Lounge
Dublin Gold Circle and Premier Lounge
Shannon The Rineanna Suite

UK
Belfast BIA Business Lounge
Birmingham Servisair Executive Lounge
Edinburgh Servisair Executive Lounge
Glasgow Servisair Executive Lounge
London Gatwick Servisair Ashdown Lounge
London Heathrow Aer Lingus Gold Circle Lounge
Manchester Wilmslow Lounge
Newcastle Servisair Executive Lounge

EUR
Alicante AENA Sala VIP
Amsterdam KLM Busuness Lounge
Berlin Hugo Junkers Lounge
Bilbao Iberia Lounge
Bologna MBL - Marconi Business Lounge
Brussels RestAir Lounge
Budapest Duna Lounge & Sky Lounge
Copenhagen Novia Lounge
Dusseldorf Open Sky Lounge
Faro Groundforce Lounge
Frankfurt Sky Club Lounge
Geneva Horizon Lounge
Gran Canaria AENA Sala VIP
Helsinki Gateway Fresh Lounge
Jersey Servisair Business Lounge
Lanzarote AENA Sala VIP
Lisbon Lisbon Lounge - Portway
Madrid AENA Sala VIP 'Cibeles' T1
Malaga AENA Sala VIP
Milan Linate Club SEA - Leonardo Lounge
Milan Malpensa SEA Club Lounge
Munich Atlantik Lounge
Naples La Terrazza VIP Lounge
Nice Club Riviera
Paris Salon Icare
Prague Menzies Lounge
Rome Le Anfore Lounge
Sofia "Sofia" Business Class Lounge
Tenerife AENA Sala VIP
Vienna Air Lounge
Zurich Bellevue Lounge
USA
Boston Aer Lingus Gold Circle Lounge
Chicago Worldwide Flight Service Lounge
New York Oasis Lounge
San Francisco Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse


User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2460 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12204 times:

Hi, sorry if discussed before...


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Photo © Scott Wright



Does anybody know out there, why AER ARANN's ATR 72 EI-REN is operatd by GOLDEN AIR Sweden as SE-MDA?! Why is RE not keeping the more modern -212A versions, by getting rid of the old -201?! Will EI-REN be sub-lsd, wet- or dry-lsd?!

ThanX chriX


User currently onlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12180 times:

I'm flying EI132 next Friday. On the seat map it shows 36 open seats for selection. Is this really the number of seats left? I assume some are blocked off by EI. However is it possible that many bookings don't have a seat assigned to them?

I always get a little concerned flying back at Christmas after being left behind in 2002 when EI overbooked by almost 50 people!(unreal but true)


User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12173 times:



Quoting EIBoston (Reply 21):
I assume some are blocked off by EI. However is it possible that many bookings don't have a seat assigned to them?

EI block off plenty seats on the seat map, particularly on the A330's. For the best seats, check-in online the night before when all the seats will be available for selection!

Great to see too that EI have done away with the fuel surcharges, they did nothing but give EI bad publicity, and it'll save O'Leary from ranting on about it.....


User currently offlineDavecFlyer From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12150 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 14):
I need to ask someone for a favor for a Reg that Im finding hard to get. What Reg operated my flight this morning CDG-ATH CA963 Air China A330-200? Would appreciate any help.

I had a look on acarsd.org but nothing showing. This one might be very difficult to track and you might be better broadening your question. Maybe there were some spotters at CDG today who saw it.

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 19):
Vienna Air Lounge

I was there the other day and you can also use the Jet Lounge. This one is before passport control and the Air Lounge is after it. It was ok but has no views of the ramp at all though.

Quoting N272WA (Reply 1):
Air Canda AC861 from London Heathrow to Halifax is diverting into Shannon in the next few minutes. It's a 767-300.

What was the reason for this does anyone know?



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User currently onlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12146 times:



Quoting EI320 (Reply 22):
EI block off plenty seats on the seat map, particularly on the A330's. For the best seats, check-in online the night before when all the seats will be available for selection!

Thanks EI320!

Won't be able to check in online as we have an infant. We have booked the bulkhead seats though.

So looks like this flight is not sold out so?


25 Kaitak : Great news! I'm hoping to fly EI to the US in August, so it'll be welcome! Just back from an extremely wet DUB, after arriving in from LTN on FR 341.
26 EI320 : Considering it's likely you'll be on an A332, there won't be a small cabin between the J cabin and the main Y cabin, so the bulkhead seats would be s
27 TravelGuy : As to be expected, EI have and will add the fuel surcharge amounts back into fares where they are able to. More than likely inch up other revenue str
28 Pe@rson : Yep: they virtually always deliver what they promise. This level of consistency is shocking when you consider they carry 58m. Incidentally, I flew LT
29 OA260 : Thanks for that. Thanks I was looking through my pics and see its actually printed on the wing so managed to get it . ---------------- Aer Lingus Far
30 EIDAA : In fairness, although EI is often reactive on issues, the removal of the fuel surcharge has been on the cards for a while and was also referenced in
31 Post contains links EIDAA : From http://www.acarsd.org/acars_search.html and http://antonakis.co.uk/acars.php it was B-6079 (MSN 810) Interesting way for you to go home!
32 Post contains links EI320 : Aer Lingus customers will pay up to €220 less on long-haul flights after the airline yesterday scrapped their controversial fuel surcharges. http://
33 OA260 : Hi yes that was what is on the wing also lol... thanks . Yes it was a great way , CDG was a nightmare though. I wanted to leave my bags in left lugga
34 AirFinglas : Just took a look at EI's prices for DUB-IAD and as far as I can see the ending of the fuel surcharges has had very little effect (if any) on the total
35 ThrottleHold : Noticed this myself after a recent flight on Ryanair (I know...I still feel dirty and violated...). After seeing the size and bulk of the many items
36 ClassicLover : It's the same on EI - the size of the bags people manage to cram into the overheads is nothing short of astonishing. People seated in the front rows
37 F1eddie : Interesting read there from a non irish perspective. I think you are correct in the above statement but only in relation to FR taking it over. I thin
38 Post contains links BrianDromey : specualtion here http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4244872/ that EI may be looking towards AF/KL to protect itself from
39 Irish251 : It has been sold by Aer Arann to Golden Air.
40 BestWestern : O'Dea would turn up to an opening of an envelope with a photgrapher.
41 Post contains links OA260 : Ryanair's Aer Lingus pledges broke rules Friday, 12 December 2008 18:55 The Irish Takeover Panel has said Ryanair broke stock exchange rules when it g
42 B747forever : Well EI is an LCC, so can they really join an alliance (Oneworld, Star or skyteam)
43 Bramble : About time too. Didn't FR use this against EI and the govt when EI told the Govt that they would be ending the SNN-LHR services..........."hoist on i
44 Dstc47 : This is back to the future stuff, with the return of seasons, as in the past. Upteen years out to the States on the day before the season change, mem
45 Post contains links Kaitak : Government has "open mind" on Aer Lingus ... http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2...en-mind-about-ryanair-aer-lingus-/ ... but wants to get some assur
46 BrianDromey : True, in a sense. I think the service is better than on so-called US legacy carriers though, who also charge for bags, food and even drinks, as do IB
47 Post contains links and images OA260 : Cold and un inviting.
48 Kaitak : There has apparently been a comment by EI that the LHR-SNN route could return. There's a reference to a news article on the front page, but I can't fi
49 OA260 : Hmm is this really realistic? Well in fairness it was a mixed bag. The girl at the information desk was usless and was more interested in drinking he
50 Post contains links EI320 : Aer Lingus: Heathrow Shannon may return Aer Lingus may consider resuming short-haul flights from Shannon, including restoring the Heathrow route, The
51 Bramble : Unless you are a lover of unpainted concrete! EI are waiting unitl their contract with SAA is up (I think its end 2009) then they will get a better d
52 Breiz : Well, thanks. I suppose that's why France is number one destination for tourists
53 ParseBandit : seeing the list of lounges reminded me of the time a couple of years ago when Aer Lingus was in Oneworld. 3 of us were flying from Boston - 2 of us on
54 BrianDromey : Un painted concrete can work well, TWA Flight Centre, and the concourse at IAD are great examples of this. But T1 at CDG can only be described as vil
55 EI320 : I was thinking the same thing. BFS - LHR is down to 3 Daily next summer, so EI should have a spare slot there, but that isn't a morning slot. Where E
56 Kaitak : PPRUNE is reporting that the FR aircraft involved in the CIA incident (EI-DYG) is now a write-off; can anyoner confirm? If so, it would be the first w
57 OA260 : SInce the improvements at LHR its a much nicer experience now. Especially T1 for Irish passengers. I was really impressed the last time I went throug
58 B747forever : I cant confirm that, but it wouldnt surprise me if it is true.
59 Shamrock604 : Travelguy, I agree 100% with this aspect of MOL's arguement. The problem is that I dont believe him, and he has caused that mistrust himself. Through
60 Post contains links COEI2007 : IB is gone very LCC to, but remains in OneWorld. EI is working at getting the UA partnership running, which will be better, as EI will codeshare on a
61 Styles9002 : A salient post if ever I read one, TravelGuy, and I agree with most everything you state. Sadly, I don't think many other people in this thread will
62 Shamrock604 : You must have missed my comments above styles. Note the above. I am guessing that maybe this line is meant for me, or those like me: "and that their
63 BrianDromey : Oh, you're evil.....nice! Nostalgia, no. I cant speak for other posters but I am looking at the reality of the situation. Im looking to the record of
64 OA260 : I certainly dont think so. That would be a disaster. People are judging MOL by his past actions and attitudes and rightfully so . How come the leopar
65 BrianDromey : Before anyone says anything to the contrary its not like I think FR and EI should be there to perform a public service and operate at a loss, far fro
66 OA260 : Totally agree and those will be the ones crying when their favourite routes have been cut and the fares have jumped because other carriers have been
67 Toulouse : Funny had friends around for dinner on Saturday, all working in the aviation industry, and towards the end of the evening, one of them, a good source
68 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : I had a good flight with Aer Lingus at the weekend, the weather in London was awful so the flight was delayed by about 25 minutes but the crew were gr
69 Smokeyrosco : I see Ennis is to get 315 new jobs despite the loss of the LHR link.... I guess US chip maker Microsemi dosent' need a link to LHR in order to do busi
70 Neutral : From the Eithad Summer 09 Update thread DUB - summer seasonal daily service resumes using an A 332. No mention of any more flights or stopovers on som
71 COEI2007 : Hopefully you get DUZ aswell! Thats a really good price for ORD!
72 OA260 : Great pic Shamrock350 despite the weather. Its the first LHR EK A380 pic I have seen and was looking to see one so thanks a Mill. for posting .
73 Toulouse : Just shows you what ignoring the Internet, news and a.net for 3 days does to you (as I did from Friday morning until today) as I see it large coverag
74 Post contains links EIDAA : Two pieces from ATI ( http://www.rati.com ) this afternoon:- Ryanair sets deadline for Aer Lingus share offer Irish budget carrier Ryanair has set a 5
75 Post contains links Kaitak : MO'L is on the offensive again (well, apart from the times he actually is offensive): http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1215/aerlingus.html I'm just wonderi
76 OA260 : OMG the pressures on ..... I think that date will come and go . ....lol....
77 Shamrock604 : I doubt they think the game has changed personally. I would say it has something to do with the fact that they want money to shore up public finances
78 OA260 : Just watching CNN and they are predicting delays at various airports tomorrow. They say 60-90 mins at DUB. How can they tell this ?
79 Shamrock604 : They just base it on their weather predictions. It's not from any advanced knowledge of ATC operations, trust me... Weather is expected to be "crap"
80 Dstc47 : True. Especially CDG 1. A lot of very negative stories today in the Irish press about the new EI fares to the USA, being suspiciously very similar to
81 TravelGuy : That really depends on your definition of LCC. I am of the opinion that there are so many shades of definition that the term is too loosely applied.
82 Kaitak : I think this was particularly unwise of EI, given the current situation vis a vis Ryanair; how long will it be before MOL fires a rocket at EI over t
83 Shamrock604 : Completely agree Travel guy. A fire sale of EI now would be a shortsighted move that would in any case fail to extract the full value of the particul
84 Bramble : Short term story.....the public will forget this quickly and will appreciate the all-in fares being advertised. So in fact EI will be less accused of
85 BrianDromey : If you have a look at the BA annual results you will find that 10% off all of BA's global revenue is generated by Ireland, that is to say ORK, DUB an
86 Shamrock604 : Are you Brian, an EI Kool aid drinker like all of us here, honestly suggesting that EI is some sort of cheap whore?
87 TravelGuy : My argument wasn't so much against a fire sale of EI, but rather against the Irish Gov't viewing a sale of EI as a way to plug a budget deficit. It's
88 BrianDromey : I'd hardly cal 350million a cheap whore..... But they do seem to have a lot of fingers in a lot of pies, it might come back to bite them in the arse.
89 Shamrock604 : Hi again Travelguy. I actually do agree with you on that point as well. Sorry if that did not come across in my post. But you are right, it is indeed
90 Styles9002 : Aer Lingus was a superb airline in the 1970s, 1980s and into the mid 90s, offering exemplary customer service at airports and on board.I have very fon
91 Shamrock604 : FR is a cheap whore. EI is just a bit of a slag. Its too late and I really need to go to bed.
92 Kaitak : I agree with this; let's not forget that EI currently serves 50+ European destinations; that's not a small achievement; I personally think that EI is
93 Toulouse : I don't disagree with you at all TravelGuy, and I msust say I am enjoying reading your excellent input to this thread, thank you. I suppose many of u
94 Post contains links OA260 : :D LOL.... that's a funny comparison. Sounds like Newry at the weekend at 3am . -------------------------- http://www.independent.ie/business/i...for
95 Smokeyrosco : um ok Wouldn't that be the icing on the cake? Even if we got a newly upgraded aircraft I'd be happy, I'm looking forward to another trip across the At
96 Neutral : I'm flying out Dublin to Malaga with Ryanair and have booked to check in online both ways my question is I know I can check in online at Dublin and go
97 COEI2007 : I think we all drink this EI kool-aid (which I think EI should sell onboard!!!!), but if you read back over the years on this thread, EI gets a bashi
98 OA260 : Lots of delays and cancellations on DUB-LHR-DUB today. Mine was cancelled and managed to get rebooked. Ques at EI and BD transfer desks are huge. Glad
99 TravelGuy : perhaps some clarification would be appropriate. My experiences with EI are nearly 75% based on transatlantic service, which I would imagine would be
100 EIBoston : Oh TravelGuy, wait until everyone on the other side of the Atlantic wakes up tomorrow. Once they are finished the EI Kool Aid for breakfast you are i
101 Post contains links Kaitak : Actually, Kool Aid aside, I have never had a bad experience flying FR; in the past - many, many years ago - I've had some less than satisfactory expe
102 Toulouse : Thanks for the clarification. I admit my t/a experience with EI is very limited the past 10 years. I do hear very conflicting reviews, and I agree it
103 Pilot21 : OA260 - (or anybody else that can help) I'm trying to remember if we have found a sure proof way of knowing what aircraft will be operating on EI's DU
104 BrianDromey : I agree with you. Back in 2001 and 2002 was a very tough time for all at EI and the crews were really downbeat their jobs looked very insecure and th
105 CelticMech : Pilot21..I have the official A330 Etops planner....bit of a problem Next Monday though...It is the only day in the next month where a mistake has bee
106 JWMD123 : Given that the Euro is now hitting record highs against the pound, what impact would this have on FR's profits? Does anyone know what percentage of FR
107 Pilot21 : Many thanks CelticMech, great info. While you are around, anymore news on the rumours you heard about 1 of the older A333's being parked up next summ
108 OA260 : Id take EI over AF. There is a way from the seat maps. We determined that last year but dont ask me now as I have forgotten lol....Plus its always su
109 CelticMech : No Problem. If you need any info closer to the time, maybe PM me on sunday and i will see if the problem with double listing the 147/146 on monday is
110 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : Ryanair 'olive branch' to commission http://www.rte.ie/business/2008/1217/ryanair.html
111 JWMD123 : Being nice to the government, unions, EI and now the EC. Surley this cannot be true!!!!
112 DavecFlyer : Some people said he looked a bit 'off' on the late late show last week. He is being very nice lately so perhaps he is feeling unwell
113 Post contains links Kaitak : DAA announces expectations for 2009 ... - slight growth 2008 -v- 2007 at ORK and DUB, but decline at SNN. - Possible cut in capital investment plan at
114 Smokeyrosco : ugh, shouldn't these things be cheaper in a recession?
115 EIBoston : Hey CelticMech, Is Fridays 133/132 still looking like it is EI-LAX? Mind you given that there is a planned 5-10 inch snow storm inbound for Friday ev
116 COEI2007 : Well, rumor has it that BHX is to be announced as a new base, with A320 and a 330 to be based there, so that extra 330 may be based there. If it is B
117 Neutral : Sounds like the DAA playing the poor mouth with the new charges for 2010 -2014 being set shortly by the Irish aviation regulator.What happened all the
118 Kaitak : If the flight can't get out, won't they just put you up in hotels and re-schedule for the following evening? It's not like you're late for the flight
119 EIBoston : Not sure on the whole Hotel thing. I guess the key here is the inbound flight from Ireland. If the 133 gets to Bos on Friday evening then I will be a
120 Post contains links OA260 : Didnt think they did that for weather issues. I was rebooked last night from 1950 to 2150 and if the 2150 had have been cancelled I would have had to
121 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : It's still all the same, a few changes have been made though with the glass partition separating arriving and departing passengers but that only goes
122 EICVD : Looks very similar to what it was like when I was there just over a month ago, deserted!
123 OA260 : That certainly looks alot nicer than the Gate 82 area I was in last night. Plus it was packed to the rafters and not a nice experience.
124 Sawtooth : Came back from JFK on EI104 yesterday as the first of the Christmas snow arrived, aircraft had a nice covering of snow while sitting on the ramp so w
125 Post contains links Sawtooth : Thursdays Irish Times saying the government plan to shelve the 2nd runway, article not online yet. ----------------- Also the DAA have a site up with
126 Shamrock350 : There does seem to be less crowds from the Gold Circle Lounge to Gate 90 but these gates are rarely used by the looks of it so all the other gates ha
127 Post contains links Kaitak : Here's that article: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...tpage/2008/1218/1229523051614.html The likelihood is that the runway will be deferred for
128 OA260 : Very stupid move IMHO. At a time when DUB needs all the attractions it can get . Yes I noticed that. It certainly does look better.
129 Pilot21 : Saw that in the press this morning Kaitak. Another example of Irish short termism. The runway will not be opened before 2014 if started in 2009 - by
130 Post contains links OA260 : 'White knight' to thwart Ryanair bid for Aer Lingus By John Mulligan Thursday December 18 2008 A low-profile Irish businessman has emerged as a potent
131 JWMD123 : Totally agree. It states the cost is €200mln to construct. With the current economy I am sure this would reduce. All the talk is about investment a
132 BestWestern : Mr O'Leary - CEO of the largest airline flying from Dublin doesn't want a second runway. Mr O'Leary - soon to be CEO of the second largest airline at
133 OA260 : I never seem to understand the Irish when it comes to planning major projects such as Terminal 2 at Dublin. No decent runway to go with it . Does not
134 BestWestern : The Irish government is less stable than the UK one. For Ireland to lower VAT would result in them having to cut services even further. Their first m
135 Neutral : I think the 2nd runway proposed at Dublin was not objected to by MOL as it would speed up the operations etc around the airfield.Also its a chance for
136 Smokeyrosco : Are sniffing around the other handlers at DUB at the moment..... I assume if they move handlers Aviance will have to pull out!
137 Sawtooth : I wonder if this has any implications for EIs A350 order, we don't have performance data yet but I'd imagine the 359 would have load and range restri
138 Smokeyrosco : DAA Director of Communications Vincent Wall Ok fair enough
139 Smokeyrosco : oh and you can watch FR and EI infront of the Oireachtas Committee live on RTE although I can't get any sound EDIT: Got sound working, just listening
140 Shamrock350 : It's working for me, apparently Aer Lingus are talking about a 4 weekly SNN-LHR service but a complete service is being called for. Also put to Dermo
141 Provance : O jaysus - what rubbish !!!
142 OA260 : If they are going to go down that road then lets re nationalise the carriers again.
143 Shamrock350 : Dermot Mannion answered by saying that out of the two major Irish airlines, only one was currently working with Aer Arann and the other was trying to
144 Post contains links OA260 : Aer Lingus warned over Shannon decision Aer Lingus has been told that unless it reinstates a Shannon to Heathrow service, there will be considerable s
145 EIEGAA : CelticMech- how far in advance do you get word of which aircraft is operating a t/a flight? I'm on the 105 on 18 Jan and the 108 on the 23 Jan.
146 Shamrock350 : Why have Aer Lingus added London City as one of their routes from Dublin, operates from Dec 24 2008 - Oct 24 2009 on days Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sun.
147 Provance : Very interesting .... perhaps these are the BA flights. Maybe some codeshare agreement has been made whereby EI will sell BA seats to LCY for some fe
148 Tonymctigue : What a stupid decision. Just to put it into context, €200mln will build maybe a few miles of motorway at most that will make sweet f**kall differen
149 Smokeyrosco : I wish we could do proper mini polls, I wouldn't mind seeing what % of people on here are for and against and a don't know also. I'm still in two mind
150 Shamrock350 : The flights are coming up as operated by an RJ100 so it looks like BA Cityflyer, good to see BA and EI strengthen their codeshare.
151 Post contains links OA260 : Yes I noticed that also. Good move IMHO. -------------- My Trip report is up finally . A340 J class http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_r
152 Smokeyrosco : IF you go to book it, the site actually says operated by BA CityFlyer
153 OA260 : Yes I have asked for that before in Non Aviation during the US elections where you would just tick a box and cant post. Just Yes or No to get a clear
154 Post contains links Sawtooth : Here's a quick online poll tool, no login needed: www.snappoll.com
155 ThrottleHold : EI to announce new short-haul base at LGW tomorrow. Source? Don't ask, don't tell.
156 OA260 : Cool thanks for that.
157 Pilot21 : Very interesting - but going against FR, EZY and BA there - not sure it is a great move. Pilot21
158 Shamrock350 : It will be very tough for Aer Lingus to go up against U2 and a growing FR operation at LGW. I'm sure transatlantic routes could be a possibility in t
159 EI320 : It is interesting, definately a very brave move by EI. LGW is very much U2 territory, and they'll try to crush EI from the start before they get too
160 Kaitak : In fairness, I'm sure they have considered this. I wonder if some of the new EI routes would have been handed over from BA? I guess we'll see. LGW ha
161 Dstc47 : If true, this will be the Kamikazi section of EI management in full operation. As to the Second Runway "decision", well this would be equally dumb, b
162 Kaitak : Just having a quick look through the Irish Air Letter for this month: AF is planning to operate the new 777F on the CDG-DUB-ORD route; was to have sta
163 CelticMech : DUZ was U/S from yesterday due to a spoiler on the l/h wing. There aircraft is now serviceable but things have changed around a bit. The 330 planner
164 CelticMech : The a/c scheduled for the 105 on 18th Jan is EI-CRK The a/c for the 108 on 23rd Jan is EI-DUB
165 Post contains links OA260 : Ok guys this is my first attempt at a poll. Thanks to Sawtooth for the link: Please vote here :: http://snappoll.com/poll/305532.php
166 EIBoston : Now that would be nice!!! Hope it is good in the snow
167 Post contains links and images OA260 : Im on a TR roll today . Here is my next part . http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/138883/ Seeing as an A330 can make i
168 Post contains links EICVD : Just read on www.ch-aviation.ch that FlyLAL & Estonian Air will be returning to DUB next summer.
169 Shamrock321 : OV are currently operating a few flights a week to DUB, must be on account of Christmas.
170 Shamrock350 : I noticed that OA and CA both use the same kind of seats as EI for their business class. OA has the older style and CA the newer lie flat seat. Both
171 Shamrock321 : Just made use of EI special Christmas fares, you just pay the taxes for one selected route each day, so Shamrock321 is taking himself to Barcelona in
172 Post contains links Kaitak : More "info" on the EI base at LGW; I don't know whether it's speculation or hard info but the IT is usually a good source: http://www.irishtimes.com/n
173 OA260 : Yes I like both . I always liked the older EI ones and the new ones are nice but I still have yet to try the horizontal ones on NZ AC , theres anothe
174 Tonymctigue : I would thought BHX would have been the first UK base for EI seeing as it was in the running along with BFS. I wonder if EI are looking to offer LH d
175 EIEGAA : Thanks CelticMech. Looks like I'll have to fully charge my ipod and take a book with me!
176 JWMD123 : I would have thought too but FR have and are expanding so much there at the moment. FR have a total of 36 routes from DUB (albeit some are seasonal)
177 BrianDromey : Potential, not so much. The airport has always been lower yield than LHR and that is where airlines want to be. In addition LGW is the worlds busiest
178 Tonymctigue : Yes well I would doubt that for the reason you just mentioned that either BFS or ORK would be among the initial routes to be launched from LGW but if
179 Pilot21 : Well the LGW base is no longer a rumour. Official press release just posted on the EI LGW base thread. Summary: Starting April 09 4 planes initially b
180 BrianDromey : The memories of ORK-LGW battle between FR and U2 make it unlikely that anyone will ever operate this route in competition with FR. Woah! That is a su
181 Post contains links OA260 : One of the crew on the flight DUB-BCN this morning confirmed this as I asked them. Did not have any route details though. Congrats to Aer Lingus and
182 Pilot21 : They have 1 new aircraft due in April 09 (MSN 3857) so that coupled with maybe 1.5 aircraft from the DUB-LGW routes will make up half of the fleet. G
183 JWMD123 : Offcial release to the Stock Market Knock is a huge surprise. Obviously EI see a market here. The others would be staple routes.
184 DavecFlyer : This really is fantastic news and is certainly evidence of taking the fight to FR. Is Knock being launched as a direct provocation of FR? Does FR stil
185 BrianDromey : First base, yes but in the late 80's/early 90's MAN was "our second home". BA were not impressed and the operation ended. No EC back then, just monop
186 EIDAA : Great news! As Pilot21 mentioned above, there is an A320 due for delivery in April. However, I personally don't think the balance of the aircraft for
187 Sawtooth : No Ryanair left NOC after they saw Easyjet off the route, they have 2x STN and 1x LTN daily.XL operated it after that but it closed again in Septembe
188 Lasno : On the EI booking engine from the start of the summer schedules, SNN-LHR shows for example on March 30th 2009, a one way fare of €5.99 plus taxes of
189 Ire2008 : Sorry maybe Im jumpoing the gun but why would you travel frm LGW to Europe with EI when you can go with BA and get free food and bags, doesnt make log
190 Post contains images BrianDromey : The LGW fares are now bookable at EI.com and they have a big splash on the UK homepage... Looking at LGW-NOC EI 916 LGW 1305 NOC 1440 EI 917 NOC 1515
191 BrianDromey : BA are widely expected to pull out of shorthaul at LGW, look for extensive EI/BA code-sharing on all LGW routes. Also of note, flexi-fares are availa
192 Shamrock321 : Any chance of an early LGW-DUB sector? The current times arnt great for those who may need to be in DUB for an early meeting.
193 EI320 : This is great news, fantastic to see some significant growth at EI. I hope it works out for them and I wish them the best of luck!! Most routes should
194 Toulouse : Like you, I was a bit surprised by this announcement, but perhaps this is the bold and brave move EI management had to make. I'm glad to see lots of U
195 Post contains links Sawtooth : More NOC - LGW details up on their website. http://www.irelandwestairport.com
196 COEI2007 : Code-share with EI/ Very good move, as it works on the already succesful agreement between BA and EI. Also gives BA a better hope of improving loads
197 AmricanShamrok : My thoughts exactly! I'm interested in this beacuse when was the last time EI were at NOC? EI Commuter in the 1990s is it? And this will be the only
198 Sawtooth : They operated a 732 to Birmingham up until 1999, think that was their last route into NOC. According to a poster on another site this is part of a de
199 BrianDromey : I have been pondering that too. I think it is hardly a co-incidence that EI showed up on DUB-LGW, then increased their frequencies and days later BA
200 EI320 : It's becoming clearer now, EI are playing around with slots here. Looking at what's bookable for Summer 09, DUB-LHR loses 2 daily flights. EI156 (mor
201 Gosimeon : Exactly. They had to do something. It's a very bold move, and I think it might just work. Me too. BA will probably code-share on the flights eventual
202 Kaitak : Reported on another thread that EI has also applied for an afternoon slot at DUS, so we may yet see more. I would expect that there will be a gradual
203 Aer Lingus : Well said, the UK has much stronger links with the Far East. Now EI has a base in LGW. I was thinking that EI could start LGW-HKG service with the A3
204 Post contains links Rojam : Forgive me guys & gals, this is a long one. I miss input to many of the Irish threads, but I'm home for the weekend and have just read 42/08....so jus
205 Dstc47 : See that EI 108 is cancelled today, is this weather related or mechanical problem? A lot of delay on other trans Atlantic services today. As for LGW b
206 OA260 : I guess so . ------------ Flew back last night BCN-DUB on EI-DEE. Two crew were ok and two were not. I got the ones that were not LOL.. Flight was qu
207 BrianDromey : I do see where you are coming from on that one. What I would add though is that EI is pretty well known in London and I think EI has something which
208 Post contains links EI320 : Pearson to battle Ryanair in outright bid for Aer Lingus http://www.independent.ie/business/i...ht-bid-for-aer-lingus-1581919.html Irish businessman S
209 Post contains links OA260 : A nice addition to an Irish Anetters passport !! http://www.aldi.ie/ie/html/offers/2827_7865.htm
210 Kaitak : I could do with one of those; the front of my passport has become quite faded! Most likely weather; I think BOS had a pretty heavy snowfall last night
211 OA260 : Yes I want one because sometimes they stick those darn baggage stickers on the passport and it takes the gold print off. I hate that and they should
212 BrianDromey : I've gotten one of those (although it was not from Lidil and it cost a lot more than 4.99!). I find it great because my passport was getting destroye
213 OA260 : Just a list of times for the LGW base :: LGW AGP 0610 1000 EI 902 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 V9 N9 L9 OC QC#320C LGW AGP 1730 2120 EI 906 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 V9 N9 L9
214 BestWestern : Will EI be offering transfers to and from DUB at Gatwick? Will EI be operating from terminal N or terminal S?
215 Shamrock350 : The Dublin flights are down as South on aerlingus.com but all the other flights have no terminal specified. If there has been an deal reached with BA
216 OA260 : Just found it ... South Terminal..[Edited 2008-12-20 07:23:56]
217 Al2637 : EI Ops at LGW. 40min turns, I've assume they've built runway congestion into the block times Aircraft 1 LGW NCE 0615 0915 EI 982 NCE LGW 0955 1050 EI
218 Irish251 : DUB has not seen significant 747 operations since Aer Lingus disposed of theirs, so personally I'd prefer to see the 744Fs continuing to appear.
219 COEI2007 : I think its likely there will be some sort of further BA-EI deal done with regards to the new LGW base! Launching 3 daily to AGP has to be a sign of
220 Oa260 : Thats an absolute disgrace. There should be a law that any airline that has to do this does not have to pay for the stand when they eventually get it
221 Shamrock321 : Unfortunatley DUB was incredibley busy this morning with alot of charters going out so stand space was a premium, at one stage I seen BY, ZB and LS 75
222 BrianDromey : Thanks for clearing that up then. IF the SNN base had been closed then would LGW based crews have been able to operate LGW-SNN? Also kinda related, h
223 Irish251 : On Saturday 20/12 two further Ryanair 737s arrived at DUB on delivery: EI-DYT and EI-DYV.
224 CallBell : There are only about 5 crew based in LHR, due to an attempt to close it a few years ago. I would doubt they will transfer over to LGW as that new bas
225 Shamrock350 : Just back from Cork with Aer Lingus, very nice flight and a great crew but things didn't start off too well. The girl at check in was friendly but inf
226 Rojam : First off eh ? Check that it hasn't been tampered with (twice at LHR my suitcase came out first, and in both instances it had been forced open with a
227 Pe@rson : Nope, it's a lie: I wouldn't waste my money.
228 Post contains links BestWestern : When EI dropped Shannon I was very critical of the west lobby jumping on the bandwagon. A big part of my scepticism was all the projects "dropped" imm
229 COEI2007 : No, they cant operate into existing EI bases, except BFS, as BFS would be on the same terms as them. Its to protect jobs in DUB, ORK and SNN, otherwi
230 Shamrock350 : Nope it was fine on this occasion but my bags have been damaged before at Heathrow, never badly and never like they have been tampered with but they
231 AC747 : I'm with you Irish251 on this one.Love the fact that there is a 744 coming into DUB regularly. The Triple 7 is a fabulous looking aircraft no doubt,
232 OA260 : I have had no issues with bags in the last few years Via LHR. The last time was a few years back flying DUB-LHR with BD on my way to Cuba. It had bee
233 Shamrock350 : Last nights FR9848 from Cork to Dublin had a very light load, I heard someone at the gate say there were just 61 passengers on board. I may have mishe
234 Pe@rson : Actual load factors are important, but realise they don't tell us anything about operating performance until they're related to breakeven load factor
235 Shamrock350 : Oh of course, I mean for all I know 180 people booked to be on that flight but only 61 boarded for example or maybe there was just 61 on board but th
236 BestWestern : Very true. ORK DUB is a very short sector, but the fares are very low... Sometimes you can tell when a route is in trouble when the aircraft is virtu
237 Al2637 : Well only 53 of us on AMS-DUB tonight... calm before the storm I think!
238 Tonymctigue : Sorry guys if I'm late at commenting here but congratulations NOC. Great to see EI back at NOC after such a long absence. Hopefully the route will wor
239 Neutral : Double daily flights back for Shannon to Heathrow from the end of March 09 thats all I've heard so far from Aer Lingus.
240 Post contains links EI320 : Double daily Mon-Fri, and just daily at the weekend according to this article It should be announced later on on. With just 2 flights, it's highly un
241 Post contains links EI320 : Aer Lingus to resume its Shannon - London Heathrow service from March 2009 Dublin, London, 22 December: Aer Lingus Group plc ('Aer Lingus') has announ
242 Post contains links EI320 : Aer Lingus - Offer Rejection http://www.investegate.co.uk/Article.aspx?id=20081222110000Z9481 Strong words from Colm Barrington........
243 JWMD123 : FR proposed takeover of EI EI announces new LGW base EI end fuel surcharge EI resume SNN-LHR And we all thought it was going to be a quiet christmas!!
244 Oa260 : For the run up to Xmas is terrible. Looks like a good Xmas for all except MOL....
245 Post contains images Shamrock350 : A little cartoon from the Aer Lingus defence presentation: Gets their point across I suppose!
246 AmricanShamrok : Its still unclear if EI will go nonstop with flights SNN-ORD next winter: From Chicago Ohare(ORD) to Dublin(DUB) Flight No Depart Arrive Days of Servi
247 Oa260 : LOL....Nice one !!
248 EIBoston : Well I made it from BOS on Friday. It was a long day though. First of all at the desk they told us that they may combine the 2 loads into one plane on
249 Irish251 : " target=_blank>http://www.investegate.co.uk/Article...Z9481 There is lots of interestimg information in the full EI document, including this table o
250 Oa260 : The one thing I noticed travelling out of DUB the last few weeks is the expensive Duty free prices they still have. You would think that they would tr
251 Shamrock321 : I think the main christmas rush is over, Saturday and early Sunday were absolutley crazy, today was alot quiter I got away with just 1 hour overtime!
252 DavecFlyer : I counted 41 on the FR548 to MAN this morning. Gate to gate in 41 minutes was a new record for me! Hard to see how that made any money. I would have
253 OA260 : Yes all the Poles going back for Xmas.
254 ThrottleHold : Just to clarify: ONLY Dublin based crew an operate flights to ANY airport in the Republic of Ireland.
255 CallBell : This morning I saw a bmi EMB-135 on stand beside the new pier E currently inder construction. Were they using it on LHR flights or do they have other
256 Shamrock321 : The BMI ERJ arrived from Northholt yesterday empty and is fling to BFS tonight. No sure why, perhaps a private charter, strange to see a BD aircraft f
257 COEI2007 : As can SNN and ORK crew, as SNN crew operate SNN-DUB They only fly to LHR ex DUB. They used to fly to EMA years ago! Maybe loads were light!
258 Post contains images OA260 : With BA buying E Jets I wonder if we will see them on the DUB-LCY route? Would certainly be great to see.
259 CelticMech : Yeah...EI-CRK which was operating the 124 last night (Sunday) struck another a/c. The r/h wingtip was extensively damaged.
260 BrianDromey : I wonder how small the profit will be? Any profit in the current enviornemnt is good news, however. Them's fighting words, with which I completely ag
261 AmricanShamrok : I can't get in with that frigin snow on the front page! Was this in Chicago? Yeah they'll look good when they come into service.
262 CelticMech : yep..it happened in Chicago
263 F1eddie : Yeah i work for a company which operates in the UK as well, and i can see how all the stores are doing. Suffice to say that out of the 8 stores betwe
264 Post contains links OA260 : Mind you its criminal whats going on in the border counties. 30 mins apart and these two prices:: Newry http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc.../15000
265 Irish251 : It was stated in reply 256 that the aircraft arrived from RAF Northolt and was to fly on to Belfast, so it sounds like a charter flight, possibly Gov
266 BrianDromey : I think OA260 was alluding to the increased use of bmiRegional across the LHR network in place of BD A32X equipment. BD must be one of the few airlin
267 OA260 : Well a bit of both lol... Can you imagine if they started to use these on DUB-LHR? Id rather fly an FR B737 . I hate ERJ's CRJ's ....
268 EIEGAA : Just been looking at the return flights from JFK-DUB for late January on EI.com. On each day I've looked there are three outbound flights, but sometim
269 Post contains links Rojam : And there shall be more E-jets coming to Ireland in '09.
270 BFSBHD : The BMI charter is carrying a certain poor band in the name of Coldplay!!
271 Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus have started the January sales that Dermot Mannion promised. There are no fares on selected routes, Shannon-Heathrow is being advertised an
272 Post contains links OA260 : Great news !! ----------------------------------- Tuesday, December 23, 2008 CityJet prepared to stay in mid-west and battle for travellers By Niamh
273 Post contains links BrianDromey : I've posted this TR of my recent MAN-ORK flight home for Christmas http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/139206/ Brian.
274 Post contains links Kaitak : Hi folks and a very happy Christmas to you all; I've been away for a few days and didn't have Internet access, but here I am back again, in the big sm
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