Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1145 times:
When Air Canada lets them....You may think that I am being mean to WJ, but on the contrary, I am not...it is just the like at YYZ AC controls what goes on at YUL, and if they don;t want westjet to fly there they can force the ADM to not give them their requested slot times. The only chance is for them to go to YMX or St. Hubert, but even then the market for the golden triangle is so competitive that going to another airport will be unprofitable...maybe a YYC-YML flight would work, but even then that is only if they get good slot times into YUL, any of the other airports are to isolated for a decent route.
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
YHU From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 426 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1145 times:
In a recetn article in the Montreal Gazette, Royal Airlines and Air Creebec were threatning to move their operations to St-Hubert as they were fed up of dealing with ADM. ADM is going to tear down their hangers to make way for terminal expansion, but are charging them an arm and a leg for the new ones. Plus, they get pushed around to make way for the big boys like AC. ADM has openly stated that they are not interested in low cost carriers at Dorval. In my view, if WestJet, Royal (C3) and Air Creebec were all to move to St-Hubert and invest in a Terminal, plus allow transfer on to each other's flights, they could set up a pretty goo little hub. Air Creebec handles the regional flights, WestJet the Domestic flights and Royal the International flights. However, this is not going to happen and I am only dreaming.
Fly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1661 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
That could possibly work because you know the saying come one come all and with in a few year Westjet imo is goingto be considered one of Canadas Major airliner especially with this growth rate. But if they did move into St hubert with another airline they might be able to make it work. look at yhm nobody ever thought this would be a suitable passenger airport but for who ever second guessed that Westjet has made them look stupid.
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Samurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2457 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1140 times:
How developed is St-Hubert as an airport right now? Is it right now capable of handling 737s?
If CanJet goes under (Canada 3000 is already rumored to be looking at buying Canjet), then Montreal will be left without a low-cost carrier in that sense since Royal and C3 do not focus as much on domestic operations since they're charter airlines.
It's a fairly likely that WestJet'll be eyeing the Montreal market within the next few years, and maybe even Quebec City if Canjet is gone. If WJ is to set up ops in Montreal and if ADM keeps on playing favorites with AC, St-Hubert or Mirabel may the only choices, but Mirabel is pretty far out of Montreal. And frankly, that's pretty well where I think WJ is going to fly out of.
Actually, when you think about it, it makes sense. Look at how WJ chose YHM rather than YYZ. And Abbotsford in addition to YVR. I'll bet that if YXD (Edmonton City Centre Airport) hadn't been closed by a vote back in 1995 to most scheduled carriers, WestJet would've chosen that airport over YEG. WestJet was doing all this to avoid competition and also avoid higher landing fees and operation costs.
YHU From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 426 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1135 times:
St-Hubert regularly handl's aircraft up to a B757 on sport charters. Thye use St-Hubert because Mirabel is too far out. St-Hubert is about 15 minutes to the Molson Center and Olympic Stadium. (that's according to the airport and the teams). There is a B720 based at St-Hubert as P&WC's engine test bed.
There is currently only two problems. One...no terminal...but Westjet has shown that that is not a problem. The other, is that during the snow thaw season, they have a weight limit on the runway. This is because a few years back the B727's that fly in cause some damage doing 180's on the runway when the ground was soft. The airport has stated that it will take $4million CDN to build a terminal and bring the runway/taxiways up to year-round strength.
I personally think that if there was already a terminal there (there was one built by Intair, but it has been turned into an FBO by Avtech)
To see what aircraft St-Hubert can handle, just look up YHU photos on this web page.