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Etihad Summer 09 Update  
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4802 posts, RR: 44
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4098 times:

Etihad Airways has unveiled a massive "hub restructuring" of its entire North American and Indian subcontinent bound flights for Summer 2009. These new changes will take place from March 29th 2009 and the main highlights are as follows:

YYZ -capacity increased to 3 weekly B 773ERs from 3 weekly A 346s i.e. an increase of 50 seats per flight and no first class cabin. New flight timings are as follows:

EY 141 Dep AUH 1010 Arr YYZ 1640
EY 140 Dep YYZ 2245 Arr AUH 2000

JFK - maintained with daily flights using an A 345 but its new flight timings are as follows:

EY 101 Dep AUH 0835 Arr JFK 1500 EY 100 Dep JFK 2250 Arr AUH 1950+1

DEL - no more same plane service to YYZ; overall capacity reduced to daily A 320s with night time departures from AUH.

BOM - will see same plane service from JFK i.e. 3 weekly A 345s + 3 weekly A 332s + weekly A 320. All flights will be now night time departures from AUH.

LHE & ISB - both cities see their weekly seating capacity reduced to daily A 320s with night time departures from AUH.

KHI - reduced from double daily flights to daily A 332s only with night time departures from AUH.

BRU - frequencies increased from 4 to 6 weekly flights using an A 332 5 times a week and an A 346 once a week.

MXP - frequencies increased from 3 to 5 weekly flights using an A 332.

DME - frequencies increasing from 5 weekly to daily using an A 332.

DUB - summer seasonal daily service resumes using an A 332.

With regards to its DAC bound flights, they have been re-timed to night time departures from AUH thus allowing excellent connections in both directions to all JFK, YYZ and European bound flights that depart AUH between 930am-1130am. EY will thus offer the fastest flight between DAC and YYZ/JFK via AUH in both directions as the transit times are 1 hour 15 minutes only in either direction.

Comments:

So finally EY sees the light by getting rid of their ridiculous early morning flights to/from JFK/YYZ. These new flights connect within 2-3 hours via AUH to all of the key Indian and Pakistani major cities in both directions and have decent arrival/departure times to/from JFK/YYZ which should help increase their load factors and hopefully yield too.

However, one does not see the point of them offering a same plane A 345 service between JFK and BOM as flying an A 345 between AUH & BOM is a total waste of money due to high operational costs. This begs the question, why didnt they order A 333s for high density flights to KUL/CGK/BOM/DEL/LHE/ISB/DAC/CAI/JED as this is the best aircraft to fly such routes nonstop from AUH.

So now with JFK connecting with all the major GCC and Indian subcontinent markets via AUH in both directions, isnt a capacity upgrade for JFK due from an A 345 to an A 346 which seats 46 more passengers + can carry 2-3 tons more cargo + a better aircraft to fly "operational cost wise" on this long haul sector . However with these new timings, KTM/BKK/SIN/KUL do not connect anymore to YYZ and JFK.

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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4802 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3975 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Thread starter):

YYZ -capacity increased to 3 weekly B 773ERs from 3 weekly A 346s i.e. an increase of 50 seats per flight and no first class cabin. New flight timings are as follows:

EY 141 Dep AUH 1010 Arr YYZ 1640
EY 140 Dep YYZ 2245 Arr AUH 2000

my mistake, EYs B 77Ws seat 92 more pax than their A 346s and not 50!


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3333 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3928 times:

When is ATH being announced?
Surely it can't be too far off...


User currently offlineAddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3640 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Thread starter):
DME - frequencies increasing from 5 weekly to daily using an A 332

Surprised to see that - with Russian economy in a nosedive and plenty of capacity on MOW-DXB route (by EK, SU and SQ), putting an A330 on the Moscow run looks like an overkill... well, may be they know something I do not.


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4802 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3568 times:



Quoting Addd (Reply 3):

Surprised to see that - with Russian economy in a nosedive and plenty of capacity on MOW-DXB route (by EK, SU and SQ), putting an A330 on the Moscow run looks like an overkill... well, may be they know something I do not.

the A 332 has been put in place to DME so that it can effectively compete against EK from an in flight product standpoint in all cabin classes plus to get cargo...much better than sending A 319s and A 320s which it currently does!


User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

Where are they getting the additional 77W's to do YYZ?

Arent their current 5 77W's maxed out?



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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2892 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3291 times:



Quoting Ronerone (Reply 5):
Arent their current 5 77W's maxed out?

I think KUL has gone to 332s, so that pulls the one 77W they need for YYZ, where will they put that 346---i assume MEL??

Karan


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4980 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Just curious to know, have EY added any additional services to SYD???
I have noted an EY flight departing SYD at approximately 2100 on various days of the week and NO it hasnt been a rescheduled service...

EK413



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User currently offlineRonerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3140 times:



Quoting Karan69 (Reply 6):
I think KUL has gone to 332s, so that pulls the one 77W they need for YYZ, where will they put that 346---i assume MEL??

The 332 switch is only for the winter season, and by the end of March, the 77W is typically put back on the KUL service.


So i would assume that during the summer of 2009, KUL may remain with a 332 and that 77W will go to YYZ. If so, that's too little capacity for KUL.


Regards,
Roni



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

what about IST as a new destination for 2009?

User currently offlineDJ748 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2455 times:



Quoting Ronerone (Reply 5):
Where are they getting the additional 77W's to do YYZ?

Arent their current 5 77W's maxed out?

BNE sees them 3x each week during our summer months as well - have seen them a few times here in the past 2 months when I've been out there spotting. Often see them flying over home on a Saturday morning too 15 minutes before arrival time (I work during the week when they fly over on Mondays and Thursdays). But mind you, during our cooler months here, they send in their 2-class A332's. All flights by EY here to BNE come in through SIN.

I've got my fingers crossed they'll eventually come in daily to BNE, and bring in the flight direct to compete with EK's upcoming daily direct. And plus, who'd want to share a plane with 380 other people during summer? Except of course if its an A380...

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 6):
where will they put that 346---i assume MEL??

That is correct - has been mentioned here a few times.


User currently onlineOlympicATH From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2078 times:

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2):
When is ATH being announced?
Surely it can't be too far off...

Apparently ATH is rumored to begin in June (with an A320). No official announcement yet though.

[Edited 2008-12-17 22:34:35]

User currently onlineOlympicATH From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1712 times:

Just an update. I noticed Etihad is hiring staff in Athens and Istanbul so I guess it's just a matter of time before they anounce the new routes.

Here's the link:
http://careers.etihadairways.com/ehire/english/careers/jobListing.aspx


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