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DL 747-400 At DTW  
User currently offlineDeltadude From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 127 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 35945 times:

Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkPiceapovc

somebody on the ramp posted it on YouTube...disabled embedding though.

[Edited 2008-12-14 19:51:54]

[Edited 2008-12-14 19:52:04]

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User currently offlineNavymmw From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 35922 times:

Nice find!

She looks really nice in Delta colors, only thing I don't like is the font seems a little small, I guess I'm just not use to seeing it on a 747 yet. Cant wait until I get to see one of these in person!


User currently offlineDtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1154 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 35994 times:

Heres a link to a few more pics at DTW

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/me...sitions/34594-pix-747-400-dtw.html


User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 870 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 35749 times:

I didn't know that the McNamara terminal had another control tower. For a second, it didn't look like DTW to me. Strange to see the DL in DTW. It's beginning to set in.


LH 442
User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1649 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 35698 times:

Just to be clear, it might be in DL colors, but it is still a NW plane. They are 2 different companies until the operating certificates are merged. So it is a NW 747, in DL colors in DTW.


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User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 35672 times:

WOW! Being that I'm only 25 and just got into aviation this is my first time seeing a 747 in DL colors. I saw old photos from the 80s when they had it in their fleet. The strangest things happen around here!

User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 35529 times:



Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 4):
Just to be clear, it might be in DL colors, but it is still a NW plane. They are 2 different companies until the operating certificates are merged. So it is a NW 747, in DL colors in DTW.

WRONG! They are one company, Delta, in which Northwest is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines. owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24824 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 35424 times:



Quoting Tsaord (Reply 5):
WOW! Being that I'm only 25 and just got into aviation this is my first time seeing a 747 in DL colors. I saw old photos from the 80s when they had it in their fleet.

Even older than the 80s. The last of their 5 early 747-100s delivered in 1970-71 were sold in 1977.


User currently offlineNwafan20 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 35360 times:

They operate as two separate carriers. It flew in as "Northwest 9868 in Delta colors" and really confused the controller.


Heres another one:

http://www.detroitspotters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=606&start=120

There is also some discussion in another thread there about her flying in



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User currently offlineNwarooster From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 35143 times:
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Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 6):
Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 4):
Just to be clear, it might be in DL colors, but it is still a NW plane. They are 2 different companies until the operating certificates are merged. So it is a NW 747, in DL colors in DTW.

WRONG! They are one company, Delta, in which Northwest is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines. owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines

Yes Northwest is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Airlines. However, Northwest is operating with its own operating certificate and therefore operates separately from Delta.
When Northwest is included in Delta's operating certificate then they will be ONE airline Delta.  old 


User currently offlineGATechAE From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 34547 times:



Quoting Nwarooster (Reply 9):

Yes Northwest is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Airlines. However, Northwest is operating with its own operating certificate and therefore operates separately from Delta.
When Northwest is included in Delta's operating certificate then they will be ONE airline Delta

yes but the person he quoted specifically said

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 4):
They are 2 different companies


which is untrue and his whole point in the correction... they are one company two airlines



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 34458 times:

Well I'm glad that we have taken a perfectly good post about a BEAUTIFUL aircraft arriving in Detroit, and turned it into an argument over WHO said aircraft actually belongs to.

It's Delta, by the way, get over yourselves. NW is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines, Inc. No need for further argument.


User currently offlineAtlanta From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 473 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 32405 times:



Quoting Nwarooster (Reply 9):
Yes Northwest is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Airlines.

No, Northwest is a subsidiary of Delta Air Lines.  duck 



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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8205 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 32096 times:

That DL livery is absolutely hideous. The bigger the plane to worse it looks.
Some bad liveries can grow on you. This one is the exact opposite. It was old from day one. What a waste of perfectly good paint  duck 


User currently onlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1844 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 31758 times:
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I said it before, hate to see NW going... but She looks great, Only I'd like the DELTA letters bigger! Can't wait to see the DC9


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User currently offlineGregarious119 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 31143 times:

Couldn't they have kept the "pearl white" ???

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7521 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 30012 times:

They pulled the DL-painted 744 up to the gate this morning. It is current sitting front and center at A40. The first gate you see when you enter the terminal and with the view out the window on the escalators down to the B/C connector tunnel.

I noticed a lot of people commenting on it while riding up the escalator and a number of people wandering by the gate to check it out.

I think DTW is going to look just fine in the future with all of those tails lined-up.


User currently offline300CAP From United States of America, joined May 2007, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 29329 times:
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I still like the Delta widget paint job best, because it has the look of classic Delta.

User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3888 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 29177 times:

Hjulicher - the tower you see is the ramp tower, near the Westin. The ATC tower however, is attached to the terminal as well, but further north and obviously much taller.

I think the plane looks nice. Sad to see the red tails start to disappear, but nice none the less. Why are people so surprised what it looks like? We all knew what the DL paint scheme looks like.

As for this business about Northwest being Northwest. It is a bit sticky and it all depends on the context and what words you use to describe the role NWA plays now. I disagree that NWA is "gone." Delta may own NWA and operate it as a subsidiary, but it is not dead. Allng the same lines... would you people say Mesaba, Comair and Compass are all Delta as well? I wouldn't.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 28951 times:

It's nice to see people talking about a 747 again.  Smile

User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 28950 times:



Quoting 300CAP (Reply 17):
because it has the look of classic Delta.

Anything is better than wavy gravy. I actually like the '80s look better. What can I say.

What route is she flying? DTW -- NRT?

Dave



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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 27213 times:

Back in the mid-80's, there was alot of rumor and speculation that DL was going to change their livery, using the current "Signature Service" theme. It was a pretty strong rumor. I don't know if it was true and for some reason they just didn't do it or what.

Speculation was that they would use a dark blue fuselage with the "Delta Air Lines" script on it, much like this pack of cards.






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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 26559 times:

So, it there any kind of temporary sticker by the door that says something like "Operated by Northwest Airlines, a wholy owned subsidary of Delta Air Lines"???

User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 26531 times:

And the rest of the NW aircraft go.....oooohhhh Fuuuuuuudge!


Merry Christmas NW Aircraft!

Sincerely,
The DL 744 sitting in the middle of your terminal

 Smile

UAL

[Edited 2008-12-15 08:57:18]

User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 811 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 26449 times:

Where is the "Operated by Northwest Airlines sticker" that was talked about? Shouldn't there one by law as long as the two airlines are flying on two certificates?

Or is DL perhaps leasing the repainted aircrafts from NW and operating their flights as codeshare?


What i'm missing here?


25 M404 : Truth is I've never really cared for our (notice the semantics?) latest NW scheme. I was more inclined toward the last "Tennis Shoe" scheme. At least
26 Pilotboi : That does look nice - but it is retro - and not modern. Modern is what Delta is going for. Between doors 4L and 5L it says "Operated by Northwest Air
27 CARST : Can that sticker be seen on any of the so far published pictures? I don't find it...
28 Mayor : Yeah...well it was mid 80's. Makes me wonder if they had gone to it, how long that livery would have been used. And, please, no snide comments about
29 Davescj : Really? I thought it looked modern and didn't like it. My fav (by far) of the current options is the "old" NW "tennis shoe." I didn't like the UA gra
30 Super80 : The 744 looks great. but she can really use a bigger font. Now it looks like DL wet-leased a a plane from somewhere and put a small decal on it.......
31 Pilotboi : You're right - I just looked for it the first time myself and I can't find it. Anyone else know where it is? It's bowling shoe actually It will be do
32 Burnsie28 : Definition of a company would put them at two companies, owned by a single, much like would you call Mazda its own company? Well yes, but its owned b
33 Pilotboi : Ah yes, I see the blur now. It's just below the windows below the registration on the left side. Hey as long as someone can see it from the outside w
34 Gsosbee : Who pays the bills? Delta. NW owns nothing. Delta owns everything that was owned by NWA. It is in the back on the lefthand side. It meets the minimum
35 Post contains links Azjubilee : You can barely see it if you zoom in on the pics from this thread: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4245201/ In the ba
36 Post contains images Rikkus67 : ...I'll keep doing the suggestion I have made until I am blue in the face: Put the widget back into the "upright position" on the tail. Now, with the
37 SkyTeamTriStar : D E L T A is placed just right. Keep looking at it long enough
38 Pilotboi : You mean so it's crooked? I never liked how they stretched the widget in either the upright or sideways position. The symbol for delta (the Greek let
39 Fly_yhm : So i always thought the KLM and the NWA colors went so well together. it will be interesting to see how the DL colors and KLM blend together. I will m
40 Like2flyguy : OK ok.... enough of the "who has control over who" talk. This thread is about a new paint scheme. If you want to talk about how much control Delta has
41 Chgoflyer : It looks awesome- I love this plane. These truely are remarkable times for both Delta and NWA.
42 Burnsie28 : All 744's will, regardless of color scheme. From what I have heard the books are still seperate. No way, too small compared to the plane. Take a look
43 Aviateur : Well until the operating certificates are merged, I'd call it a Northwest 747 in Delta colors. In practical terms, anyway. PS
44 Breaker1011 : Ah men Burnsie. Too small, not positioned asthetically either!
45 Chgoflyer : Actually no- it has to do with which company owns what- a simple legality until the merger is completed. We all saw the same with Pan Am and TW plane
46 Brilondon : I see nothing strange about DL in DTW. I have been flying them for years from DTW. What will be strange is when all the signage is switched from NW t
47 Brilondon : What law are you talking about? I don't there is a legal requirement to do so.
48 Lexy : Call me stupid, but I don't remember seeing the DL gates at the north terminal. What are their gates at the new terminal and what will become of them
49 Dtw9 : Delta is already at the Mac in the B concourse
50 PSU.DTW.SCE : DL has gates B16, B18, and B20 (and uses B12 for RONs) in the NW Worldgateway / MacNamera terminal. After DL joined Skyteam, they moved from the Smit
51 Mayor : The PanAm a/c became DL's immediately at the time of the acquisition and there was no PanAm on these particular routes after that. It was DL all the
52 Chgoflyer : Funny when I watched them clear the hanger at MIA there were "DBA" stamps next to all the forward doors.
53 Mayor : Those may have been last of the PanAm fleet, which were supposed to operate to South American and the Caribbean but were not a part of DL other than
54 Post contains images Mayor : In this rendering, the font does look a little larger and a little bolder than the actual a/c.
55 Bobnwa : What law would that be? NW will operate all the ex NW aircraft until there is one certificate. That has been mentioned many times on this board.
56 CodyKDiamond : Does anyone have schedules for next week? Are there any one-time domestics planned?
57 Post contains links and images KaiGywer : View Large View MediumPhoto © Josh May Good job Josh! 17DEC: NW2 LAX-NRT 17DEC: NW25 NRT-PVG 19DEC: NW26 PVG-NRT 19DEC: NW20 NRT-MSP (Woohoooo) 1
58 NW748i : You said it... "Abomination of Desolation!" Not only is the font too small, but the logo is too small. A misfit... and a real portent. The compass wa
59 Burnsie28 : Just to let everyone know, this is all subject to change, especially when it comes back through DTW.
60 LAXspotr : Thanks, Kai! I hope you all like it, despite the TERRIBLE weather. I guess I brought the rain home with me last night from NYC... I hope this bird wil
61 Mayor : What did you expect DL to do? Eliminate their own brand? As far as how the livery looks, it sounds like you've all seen it for the very first time. Yo
62 DeltaL1011man : other way around After NW joined SkyTeam DL moved in. DL started Sky. CO/KL/NW all came in at the same time IIRC. Right. PA was NOT a merger. (like D
63 CokePopper : Why would you say "like DL calls it" ? I never remembered Delta calling the Pan Am ACQUISITION a Merger.
64 Cws818 : True, DL/PA was an asset acquisition, with DL purchasing a large chunk of an ongoing, operating company (PA), which continued to operate for a bit af
65 Mayor : Delta, along with AF, KE and AM, IIRC were the founding members of Skyteam.
66 JAGflyer : DELTA 747s???? I had no idea in the world about this....where have I been?
67 Post contains images Pilotboi : Apparently not on Anet for at least 2 weeks. We've had about 4 or 5 threads about this single aircraft, most of which went close to 200 posts. Plus,
68 Bwest : The name looks too small for the mighty 747, making the fuselage look very white and bland. I'll miss the classy NWA grey/silver livery, it looked awe
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