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Northwest 757-300 On BOS-AMS Tonight?  
User currently offlineBAGoldEx From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 316 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9027 times:

I'm looking at flightaware.com right now and they list tonight's second Amsterdam flight(#60) as being flown with a 757-300. Is this information accurate? If so, I had no idea the 753 had the legs for such a route.

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User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9010 times:

According to nwa.com it is a 753... so i am guessing thats true. Range is 3467 NM (fully loaded). BOS-AMS is 3004nm.... so should be no problem. Also assuming its a sub and probably not 100% full.


'902



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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8992 times:
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I hope they prepared those PAX who were thinking they were in WBC and got domestic F seats! Or maybe some elites got a nice upgrade?


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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8950 times:
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Interestingly, it looks like it was the 753 used for the Browns charter flight to PHL and initially scheduled to stay at PHL until after the game tomorrow night.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA9868

Now on the way to AMS:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA60



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User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8909 times:

Looks like none of NW's 757s were cancelled into BOS.... so im guessing there was a mechanical problem or something and this is a sub? or was it planned ahead of time?

'902



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User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8767 times:

Also according to nwa.com, the 753 will be back in Boston on Monday on the return flight from AMS. Even this far out it's being listed as significantly delayed, with a BOS arrival at 2:13 p.m. I might rise to the bait on this one, but Boston weather doesn't look great for tomorrow afternoon.

User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4509 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8629 times:

The AMS BOS flight is delayed because it is using the same B753 equipment that is arriving from BOS. Normally, this flight uses one of the B752s that arrives from either IAD or JFK at 6am. It seems therefore that the B753 must be repositioned to BOS. On a different note, there are only 94 passengers on board NW060 tonight, so they shouldn't be packed.

User currently offlineEHRD From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8491 times:

The reg. of the aircraft is N591NW

User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8472 times:



Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 4):
Looks like none of NW's 757s were cancelled into BOS.... so im guessing there was a mechanical problem or something and this is a sub? or was it planned ahead of time?

'902

My guess would be weather/fall out from the storm earlier in the week...



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4275 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8387 times:

Confirmed by AMS spotters on arrival. Aircraft is indeed N591NW.


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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8252 times:

Wow, I would've killed to fly on this thing.. Is this the first case of a 753 carrying pax over the atlantic?

-A



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User currently offlineLH744 From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8217 times:



Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 10):
Is this the first case of a 753 carrying pax over the atlantic?

No, german charter carrier Condor had flights with the 753 from Germany with a fuel stop to certain destinations in Canada.

ATA flew 753´s across the pond on charter occasions as well, saw one of them in LEJ.


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2208 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8205 times:
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Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 6):
there are only 94 passengers on board NW060 tonight,

That must have been a comfy flight, if the B753 has 224 seats or so, everyone had an empty seat next to them  Smile

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 10):
Is this the first case of a 753 carrying pax over the atlantic?

I think Thomas Cook and/or Condor has used their 256-280-seat B753s on Atlantic crossings with a fuel stop at Gander or Deer Lake or something...?

Will a 200-seat B753 be able to fly Western Europe-NYC without too much payload restrictions or is it simply too far?



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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8501 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8184 times:



Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 1):
According to nwa.com it is a 753... so i am guessing thats true. Range is 3467 NM (fully loaded). BOS-AMS is 3004nm.... so should be no problem. Also assuming its a sub and probably not 100% full.

Typically the 753 would be able to make the route eastbound but not westbound, especially in the Winter months however, this is low reason and loads are probably really low. Just last week I flew AMS-BOS on the A333 and it was less than half full.


User currently offlineLH744 From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8102 times:

According to a dutch spotter site, originally N546US was planned on NW60.

User currently offlineFrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1659 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8070 times:

Couldn't resist taking a look myself... Quite a rare sight at AMS, so took some photos. Unfortunately, I cannot upload it to my profile, that feature doesn't appear to be working any more  Sad Will try uploading it to the photo database, don't know if that will work though.


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User currently offlineJcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7727 times:



Quoting LH744 (Reply 14):
According to a dutch spotter site, originally N546US was planned on NW60.

N546US flew in NW59 yesterday which turns into NW60 usually. That aircraft did not fly back out of BOS so I would suspect it went tech on arrival and is in the hangar in BOS.


User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7654 times:

What kind of IFE do these 753's have? Do the FC seats have individual screens or is it center mounted CRT's or drop down LCD's?


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User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5640 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7601 times:



Quoting JohnJ (Reply 5):
Even this far out it's being listed as significantly delayed, with a BOS arrival at 2:13 p.m.

Assume this is because a fuel stop will be planned on the way back... although if weather is favorable and the load is really light they may end up being able to skip the stop.


User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7040 times:



Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 17):
What kind of IFE do these 753's have?

Drop down LCDs across the board. Normally they only bring them down going to and from Hawaii, but I'm sure in a case like this they made them available for the crossing.



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User currently offlinePremoBrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7019 times:

The 300s have the same old domestic F and Y. These planes make the west coast flights to HNL. They have drop down video screens.


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User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6933 times:



Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 18):
although if weather is favorable and the load is really light they may end up being able to skip the stop.

It was booked to 89 coming back, so maybe they will be able to make it nonstop.

[Edited 2008-12-15 10:36:30]


Hey Swifty
User currently offlineManfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6781 times:

This is great....amazing the "little things" that can make ones day. Although some charters have been done in the past, this should be the first scheduled flight from the U.S. to Europe in a 753.

So the consensus is there will be NO fuel stop?

Quoting Frigatebird (Reply 15):
Will try uploading it to the photo database, don't know if that will work though.

Yes! Please try and get them on anet!



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User currently offlineBriGuyinHou From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6442 times:



Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 19):
Drop down LCDs across the board. Normally they only bring them down going to and from Hawaii, but I'm sure in a case like this they made them available for the crossing.

Do you (or anyone else) know why they would only make IFE available on flights to/from Hawaii and not other domestic flights?



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User currently offlinePhllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6415 times:

They made it back without a fuel stop, and took a pretty southernly track according to flightaware.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA59


25 KingAir200 : Just general NWA policy. No domestic IFE, save for mainland to Hawaii routes. They had some reason when they started taking the IFE out of the domest
26 USAirALB : As said before they have center mounted flat screen TV's. I believe in this case (as in the same as flying TATL on a LH 300) BC customers were provid
27 NWAESC : I may be way off here, but I think it was because they didn't want to have to pay for them (royalties???). Just to add an odd anecdote here: When I w
28 NWA757boy : No....drop down LCDs. yes it's royalties. pathetic, but, they don't ask me.
29 Post contains links Frigatebird : Here's a link to one of the photos I made earlier today at AMS. For some reason I cannot put the image directly into this post. http://www.airliners.n
30 SeaBosDca : Cool sight... stands out nicely among the blue fuselages.
31 Frigatebird : It actually was funny to see it being pushed back amidst the rush hour at AMS. While it was still being pushed backwards there was already a KL 739 i
32 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : Icelandair has also occasionally operated their sole 757-300 to the USA. View Large View MediumPhoto © Christopher Liao - Spot This!
33 Post contains links Soxfan : Related to this, here's a very good, detailed response by JetJack to another thread earlier this year regarding a similar topic: "We only show [IFE]
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