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BA Spends $33 Million On CFM56-3 Upgrade Kits  
User currently offlineBdak From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 87 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

An interesting news article here that states BA have placed an order for 20 CFM56-3 Advanced Upgrades kits for it's 737 fleet. I thought they were being phased out relatively soon. This is a lot of money to spend on a fleet that's on it's way out, no? It says they'll save 280,000 gallons of fuel per year, or $780,000 worth. If they're spending $33 million how does that makes sense?

http://www.emportal.rs/en/news/region/72854.html



[Edited 2008-12-15 00:38:49]

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User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 719 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5237 times:

Hmm seems they are going to be holding on to these aircraft for a few more years yet. I wonder where they plan to base them, I thought LGW was going all A319

User currently offlineCws818 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

Could they (or some of them) be destined for Comair in South Africa?


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User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 719 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

aah that could be it. I read somewhere that they had got rid of the 727's
I went to SA once and when we landed there were 3 (what i thought were) Tridents in the Tails colour scheme at the time, all having blue dolphins (thats what it looked like) on the tails, then i realised they were 727's which i guss were owned by Comair


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

Boeing 737-300 are good cheap aircraft.

Maintenance can be done everywhere ensuring compettitive prices. Training, pilots same thing.

I don't think the 737NG gave a quantum leap improvement in operating costs.

What to replace them with / heavy expensive 737-700 / A319 's ?

Maybe BA will hold on to them until something better coems along (e.g. CSeries)

A good paint job, new bigger bins, new seat covers, maybe winglets, friendly crew & nobody notices..


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3930 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5011 times:



Quoting Keesje (Reply 4):
Boeing 737-300 are good cheap aircraft.

These will be for the B734s. They are staying at LGW for about 5 more years. The B735 and B733 will be gone in 2009. Some of the B735 have already gone to Aeroflot.


User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4896 times:
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BA has no immediate plan to remove the B734 aircraft at Gatwick.

However the leases on the 735 and 733 aircraft are in the process of ending.

The 735 models are in the process of being replaced 1 for 1 with transferred A319s and these in turn are are being replaced at Heathrow with newly delivered A320 aircraft on a 1 for 1 basis.
A further new A320 - G-EUYD due this week to release another A319 to Gatwick with G-EUYE in the new year. The delivery of the 4 former GB/Easyjet A320s will follow through spring will allowing remaining 735 aircraft to be withdrawn and replaced with transferred A319 at a 1 for 1. One 733 will be withdrawn and replace with an A319. The remaining 733 aircraft withdrawals will see no replacement however and the Gatwick fleet will reduce from 41 to 37 frames as a result.

From this you will see the owned B734s seem to have a future and the upgrade kits underline this.
That will be 19 frames plus one spare = 20 kits!


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3930 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4797 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 6):
with G-EUYE in the new year

UYE is coming in June 09.

Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 6):
That will be 19 frames plus one spare = 20 kits

But there are two engines on each aircraft, so thats 39 engines.


User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4777 times:
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Quote:
UYE is coming in June 09.

thats in the new year isn't it ?

Quote:
But there are two engines on each aircraft, so thats 39 engines.

Yeap thats right that why i said frames and not engines!

One presumes that the use of the word kit refers to sufficient components for a pair of engines?


User currently offlineVeeseeten From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4772 times:

Flew on one of the 734's out to Sicily this summer - felt very tired inside, not at all comparable to the A320 product at LHR, which I also flew to TXL in June - much better! I'm quite tall and found the whole experience pretty uncomfortable - major crick in the neck!! Still, this seems like a pretty canny move by BA and the C-Series idea certainly sounds an interesting prospect.

User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4702 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 6):
The delivery of the 4 former GB/Easyjet A320s will follow through spring

I've been wondering about these for a while now. Will they keep their old registrations G-TTO* or will they become G-EUY* or something else?



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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4673 times:
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Quote:
Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 6):
The delivery of the 4 former GB/Easyjet A320s will follow through spring

I've been wondering about these for a while now. Will they keep their old registrations G-TTO* or will they become G-EUY* or something else?

Don't know
Never quite understood the relevance of TTO-/TTI- series to GT/Bland Group but some may know.


User currently offlineLHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4644 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 7):
UYE is coming in June 09.

http://www.jethros.eu/fleets/fleet_listings/ba_a320srs.htm gives it as Feb with UYF in April... but your information is probably more accurate!



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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4629 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 11):
Never quite understood the relevance of TTO-/TTI- series to GT/Bland Group but some may know.

Well with GT being their IATA code then when you have it as a registration you get 'GT TO*' or GB Airways to (wherever) plus the fleet letter, A.B.C.D.E.F.G.H.I.J and perhaps TTOK soon?

A few airlines do that such as Monarch/ZB with G-OZB*. Go Monarch to....



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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4589 times:
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There appears to be confusion as to what construction/line number G-EUYE is will be in those enthusiast sites.

Jethro site has it as line number 3912 due February 2009 whilst Planespotters.net has it as line number 3858 with no delivery date.
Someones wrong then !


User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4561 times:
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Quote:
Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 11):
Never quite understood the relevance of TTO-/TTI- series to GT/Bland Group but some may know.

Well with GT being their IATA code then when you have it as a registration you get 'GT TO*' or GB Airways to (wherever) plus the fleet letter, A.B.C.D.E.F.G.H.I.J and perhaps TTOK soon?

A few airlines do that such as Monarch/ZB with G-OZB*. Go Monarch to....

Good explanation and as is often the case the blinding obvious is cryptically most illusive !


User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1784 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4438 times:

Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 14):
Jethro site has it as line number 3912 due February 2009 whilst Planespotters.net has it as line number 3858 with no delivery date.
Someones wrong then !



3858 is an A321 for US Airways according to many sources, with 3912 becoming G-EUYE. Looks like PS.net is wrong.

[Edited 2008-12-15 06:22:40]

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7258 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4309 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 7):
But there are two engines on each aircraft, so thats 39 engines.

The article says that the order is for "up to 44 engines", not 39.


User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4276 times:
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BmiBaby thanks and that certainly fits with the June delivery date quoted by TristarSteve.

User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

A good move by BA seeing as the 734 fleet may well be around a lot longer than originally anticipated.

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