Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12046 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3872 times:
We won't know final answers until mid-January.
At the end of November Airbus had a handy sales lead. Airbus will comfortably win the delivery "race" since Boeing's numbers are way down with the IAM strike and nutplate problems (Airbus was scheduled to deliver a few planes more than Boeing anyway).
Hey AA, the 1960s called. They want their planes back!
If I recall correctly, Boeing 'lost' in 2005.
It was the year when Airbus booked a massive Chinese state order for hundreds of A320 all in once, whereas Boeing didn't. A contributing factor was also the fact that the Chinese slashed the Boeing order in half over a political row over Taiwan with the Bush administration. The order was later replaced, but came too late to be added to 2005...
2006 went to Boeing with a large margin thanks to a unique 787 sale-success.
It was the one result that sparked the dream about a quick demise of Airbus with many frustrated Boeing supporters, as their beloved manufacturer had allegedly demonstrated for once and for all that it was a greatly supperior builder of planes which had seen its crown stolen by the Europeans in the years before.
Those who dared to point out that Boeing's win was largely due to a huge number of 787 orders and that this could not be repeated for many years had to endure a hard time here on A.net. And those who dared to suggest that Boeing's sales teams were far too aggressively pushing the 787 and that the real word output could never follow them, were simply flamed. Reality has since catched up with them on this....
2007 was the year the 787 first ran into troubles and Airbus managed to demonstrate a surprise turn around on the A350XWB and the first delivery of the A380, not to forget the fact the A330 had its best year ever (over 200 copies firmly sold!) making the race really very close. So close even that when Boeing announced their numbers, they didn't dare to loose face again and thus refrained from claiming the crown prematurely like they did in 2005.
The year ended with a difference of only a handful of planes and Airbus taking in most widebody orders, thus marking the return of Airbus to the stage as undisputed leader in the world of commercial aviation manufacturing.
2008 isn't finished yet, but it seems like most pending orders have already been announced and from that it looks like Airbus will send back Boeing to second place with a very comfortable lead once more. No surprise really since Boeing was completely shut down for over a month due to a strike and the 787 program has stumbled from delay to delay...
All in all, since the beginning of this decade, a lot has been said about Airbus' repeated sales successes and for a single year it looked like Boeing could actually do better indeed, but it seems their 'win' was very shortlived....
Dougbr2006 From Brazil, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3601 times:
Quoting Slz396 (Reply 4): If I recall correctly, Boeing 'lost' in 2005.
No one looses, they both make big bucks, this race game is a joke now, airlines buy what they think are best. At the end of the day. One sells more the other less and it swings with the needs of the airlines.
Forget who's winning at A&B, its time for the other fantasy of Christmas, who gets the most presents game !!!!!
Quoting Slz396 (Reply 4): All in all, since the beginning of this decade, a lot has been said about Airbus' repeated sales successes and for a single year it looked like Boeing could actually do better indeed, but it seems their 'win' was very shortlived....
Wow, Slz396. While I'm happy for you that you got to share that diatribe with the group, it really was a simple question: How many orders did Airbus and Boeing get in 2008?
Gokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3196 times:
Given the current state of the global economy, I think both manufacturers did well, on the deliveries site the strike was a big blow to Boeing.
I can't help but point the fact that I find the fanatics of both manufacturers on A.net so amusing, I don't favor one or the other but I always thought Airbus got bashed by Boeing fans the most, but this post takes the cake;
Quoting Slz396 (Reply 4): The year ended with a difference of only a handful of planes and Airbus taking in most widebody orders, thus marking the return of Airbus to the stage as undisputed leader in the world of commercial aviation manufacturing.
I think it will always be a duopoly, with cycles and trends here and there. I for one would love another manufacturer(Embraer) maybe become a bigger player and help bring some variety.