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Plane Goes Missing Over Caribbean  
User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 20151 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7785793.stm

An Atlantis Airlines flight from the Dominican Republic to the Turks and Caicos Islands has gone missing 35 minutes into the flight...

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User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3052 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 19889 times:

Wikipedia has this airline based in Senegal, IATA code 9V, good luck to those onboard.


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User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 19778 times:

Do we know what type of aircraft it is?


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User currently offlineYZFOO7F From Canada, joined May 2005, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19788 times:

Another article states its a Britton-Norman Islander

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/12/16/missing-plane-dr.html

Prayers that they're found alive.



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User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19829 times:



Quoting YZFOO7F (Reply 3):
Another article states its a Britton-Norman Islander

An Islander flying from the Dominican Republic to New York? Hmmmm... first of all it would be a Trislander, as the article says it's multi-engine. And it seems to me that it would have to make more fuel stops than just one in the Bahamas.

Whatever the case, hopefully some survivors will be found.


User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19803 times:



Quoting Levent (Reply 4):
An Islander flying from the Dominican Republic to New York? Hmmmm... first of all it would be a Trislander, as the article says it's multi-engine. And it seems to me that it would have to make more fuel stops than just one in the Bahamas.

An Islander is a twin engined aircraft.


User currently offlineRicciPettit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19783 times:



Quoting Levent (Reply 4):
first of all it would be a Trislander, as the article says it's multi-engine.

Does and Islander not have two engines? I would say that counts as multi.


User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19755 times:



Quoting Khobar (Reply 5):
An Islander is a twin engined aircraft

I stand corrected...


User currently offlineRicciPettit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19756 times:



Quoting Khobar (Reply 5):
An Islander is a twin engined aircraft.

Dang, beaten to it...


User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19710 times:

Quote:
.....
The plane, a multiengine Britton-Norman Islander, departed from Santiago in the Dominican Republic.....


from AP

but cannot find any "Atlantis Airlines" fitting to it. Also an Islander couldn't carry 11 people, can it? wouldn't it be a Trislander then?

Edit:
Wow - didnt type that long and so many answers now in between


BBC article says en route to Turks-and-whatever islands not to New York....

[Edited 2008-12-16 07:06:47]


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User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19364 times:



Quoting TW741 (Reply 9):
Also an Islander couldn't carry 11 people, can it?

as far as i remember, there were 4 seats in the one I flew in Belize. But then, the whole thing sounds a bit confused...



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User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19275 times:



Quoting TW741 (Reply 9):
Also an Islander couldn't carry 11 people, can it?

According to the info on this site, the Islander can carry 8 to 9 pax while the Trislander has a capacitty of 16 to 17 pax.


User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1775 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 19192 times:



Quoting Levent (Reply 14):
According to the info on this site, the Islander can carry 8 to 9

This would make sense as the report says carrying upto 11 people onboard. 9 pax and 2 flight crew = 11 people



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User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 19142 times:



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 15):
This would make sense as the report says carrying upto 11 people onboard. 9 pax and 2 flight crew = 11 people

Actually the capacity is 8 pax in the cabin and one on the flight deck next to the pilot, but there could have been an infant or so.


User currently offlineN701AA From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18984 times:



Quoting TW741 (Reply 9):
wouldn't it be a Trislander then?

According to a newspaper article from Puerto Rico, the aircraft is a Trislander. You can read the article in Spanish, including passenger list at,,,

http://www.elnuevodia.com/diario/not...cido_al_salir_de_dominicana/505735


User currently offlineHangarRat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18918 times:

Since I went to the trouble of looking it up, here's the data on the Islander:

http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=131

So yes, an Islander could carry 11, but that doesn't resolve the report that the aircraft was bound for New York.

Could this be a case of an airport code being confused? Is the airport in the Turks and Caicos LGU or JFY or something that might be mistaken for a New York airport.

Just guessing at what could go wrong. It's also possible that someone from the DR was taking his family to New York for the holidays. People in the Carribean are very resourceful.

When I worked at a marina in Maryland as a teenager, we got a visit from a bunch of people traveling from New York to Jamaica with a Winnebago aboard an old amphibious landing craft.



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User currently offlineN701AA From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18891 times:

Quoting N701AA (Reply 17):
the aircraft is a Trislander

The registration of the aircraft involved is N650LP

Aircraft Data
Manufacturer: Britten Norman
Model: BN-2A MK III Search all Britten Norman BN-2A MK III
Year built: 0000
Serial Number (C/N): 1029
Mode S Code: 52106702
Aircraft Type: Fixed wing multi engine
Amateur-Built: No
Number of Seats: 18
Number of Engines: 3
Engine Type: Reciprocating
Engine Manufacturer and Model: Lycoming 0-540 SERIES

Owner (FAA)
Registration Type: Corporation
Owner: Linea Aerea Puertorriquena Inc
Address: Cas I Ste 202
Carolina, PR 00979

[Edited 2008-12-16 08:51:46]

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3943 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18862 times:



Quoting TW741 (Reply 9):
BBC article says en route to Turks-and-whatever islands not to New York....

Actually, he is right. The Spanish article provided by the poster above me says:

"...y salió de República Dominicana para hacer una parada en islas Turcos y Caicos para recargar gasolina. Su destino final era Nueva York."

Which means the aircraft departed the Dominican Republic inbound to the Turks & Caicos Islands for refuel. Final destination was New York.


User currently offlineN701AA From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days ago) and read 18007 times:



Quoting HangarRat (Reply 15):
It's also possible that someone from the DR was taking his family to New York for the holidays. People in the Carribean are very resourceful.

Something doesn't add up here. A US registrated Tri-lander, flown by a Dominican pilot, carrying 11 Dominican passengers in their 20's and 30's, to New York!!! Hmm!


User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days ago) and read 17958 times:

"The plane was believed to be flying to the Turks and Caicos Islands, although some reports said the destination was the Bahamas or New York"

Seems odd. The desination was either the Bahamas or New York. Or Los Angeles. Maybe Dallas. It doesn't seem that all the facts have been gathered before the story was published. But, what else can I expect?


User currently offline6YJCX From Jamaica, joined Dec 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days ago) and read 17584 times:

On a point of geographic correctness, The Turks and Caicos islands are in the Atlantic, not the Caribbean. And so are the Bahamas and Bermuda and maybe even Barbados, which is to the east of the island chain that forms the eastern edge of the Caribbean.

User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 16549 times:

You are correct about the Turks & Caicos, Bahamas and Bermuda.

I learnt in school that Barbados was part of the Lesser Antilles and as far as I remember, they were all part of the Caribbean........

Politically, "Caribbean" may be centered around socio-economic groupings found in the region. For example the bloc known as the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) contains both the Co-operative Republic of Guyana and the Republic of Suriname found in South America, along with Belize in Central America as full members. Bermuda and the Turks and Caicos Islands which are found in the Atlantic Ocean are Associate members of the Caribbean Community, and the same goes for the Commonwealth of the Bahamas which is a full member of the Caribbean Community.'

So I bet if you asked the respective Governments and peoples of T&C, Bahamas and Bermuda, that they would tell you that they are part of the Caribbean

[Edited 2008-12-16 10:42:23]

[Edited 2008-12-16 10:42:56]

User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 16460 times:

Hope all is ok with everyone on this flight. May God be with them.

Chuck


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 16217 times:

"The flight is thought to have originated in Santa Domingo in the Dominican Republic with a final destination in Mayaguana, Bahamas."
http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/news-12990--37-37--.html

"The propeller plane departed from Santiago in the Dominican Republic and was supposed to refuel in Mayaguana, Bahamas, Johnson said. The Coast Guard initially believed the plane was going to refuel in the Turks and Caicos Islands, she said.A family member of a passenger told the Coast Guard the aircraft’s final destination was New York, Johnson said. "
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...20601103&sid=ak5WayA8bV1A&refer=us

and here is the good stuff...

"But the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration said the plane disappeared shortly after taking off from Providenciales in the Turks and Caicos.Providenciales police Sgt. Calvin Chase said airport authorities are still trying to locate records to determine whether the plane ever landed there.FAA spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said the plane's destination was not immediately known."There's still a lot of unanswered questions here," Bergen said."

and!!!

The plane, a Britton-Norman Islander, was registered to a company called Puerto Rico Airline, based in Carolina, Puerto Rico.The company's owner, Luis Perez, said the plane was for sale and was only supposed to be inspected in the Dominican Republic. He planned to report it as stolen."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...B_IgQRCJkFHUAySULYCVIYzUgD953TU7O1

     

pix show it as a freighter looks like
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Britten-Norman-BN-2A-Mk3-2/1304841/L/

[Edited 2008-12-16 10:59:57]

145kt cruise 800nm range but supposedly already looking for fuel after a fairly short hop.

[Edited 2008-12-16 11:26:40]

User currently offlineSeefivein From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 15786 times:

If I am reading this stuff right, that Plane went Down on Monday afternoon.

Amd now word on survivors as of the miday Tuesday..


25 N701AA : If I was a betting man, I would bet this was a "human trafficking" flight.
26 Post contains links Cubastar : Article reported in Aviation Safety Net. http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20081215-0 Also quotes an official saying that the pilot's
27 Post contains links Khobar : Now they are reporting the plane as being "stolen". "The mystery surrounding the plane that vanished in the Caribbean grew Tuesday as the airline sugg
28 Bobs89irocz : Alittle over a year ago i was flying a convair 580...did a few trips between turks and caicos and the DR. Was an easy flight but you are out there on
29 Post contains links Manu : I used to do contract for for their gov't and it is a remote little island. I was always a little afraid of flying to GDT on Turks & Caicos Airway's I
30 DocLightning : Out of curiosity, were they anywhere near the Bermuda Triangle?
31 Bobs89irocz : They are far south of Bermuda Manu....nice write up.
32 Francoflier : Hmm, according to all the confusing info gathering up, it looks to me more and more like on of these runs....: I have lived and flown on the Caribbea
33 Post contains links Hiflyer : Agreed and the aircraft is probably sitting on a short coral road on a small atoll in the middle islands of the Bahamas and in one piece waiting on a
34 Post contains links N701AA : According to reports from the Dominican Republic today, this was a flight carrying illegal aliens to the USA. The reports indicate that the pilot file
35 Francoflier : Damn, could've made me 20 bucks... I came across one of these guys when I was down there. I had no idea what he was up to at the time and he seemed a
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