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WN May Add Focus City In Fall 2009  
User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7192 posts, RR: 13
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12205 times:

Atlanta?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Southw...ulls-move-to-3rd-apf-13860553.html

excerpt...

Southwest mulls move to 3rd major US airport
Southwest Airlines may start flights to 3rd major US airport by this fall

NEW YORK (AP) -- Southwest Airlines Co. may add flights to a third new major U.S. airport as early as next fall, as the low-cost carrier shifts its traditional focus on less-trafficked, secondary airports.

In an interview with the Associated Press on Wednesday, Chief Executive Gary Kelly said there are "decent odds" the Dallas-based carrier will look to add flights to a new major U.S. airport next year, following the addition of Minneapolis-St. Paul and New York's LaGuardia Airport. Previously, the airline's business plan has mostly focused on secondary airports, such as Chicago's Midway.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12186 times:

ATL, DCA, EWR, JFK, BOS ?...

I'm sure the PA would spruce up T-6 for them, they need to come up with some slots though.

[Edited 2008-12-17 13:51:32]


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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12086 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
ATL, DCA, EWR, JFK, BOS ?...

The only other major airports I can think of are CVG, MEM and CLT.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4676 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12086 times:

I'd put money on ATL or BOS, maybe CLT or JFK Im not sure if the tone of the article would imply an airport like CVG or MEM.


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User currently offlineFFlyerWorld From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12033 times:

Bring 'em on to ATL. JetBlue tried and failed and WN may do the same! Just a hunch!

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23023 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11955 times:



Quoting FFlyerWorld (Reply 10):
Bring 'em on to ATL.

What's the gate situation in ATL?



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11923 times:

The only major population area in the U.S. not currently served is the Atlantic Southeast, from Georgia through the Carolinas.

ATL or CLT would be my guess.



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4676 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11920 times:



Quoting FFlyerWorld (Reply 10):
Bring 'em on to ATL. JetBlue tried and failed and WN may do the same! Just a hunch!

B6 offered LGB and OAK, thats why they tanked

Atlanta is a huge business destination and WN can not ignore it for much longer. There are way more than enough people throughout the WN network who lack access to ATL.

ATL-BNA 45x (no LCC on the route, which would result in a huge stimulus)
ATL-BWI 4-5x (all northeast connections)
ATL-MDW 4x
ATL-HOU 2x (or maybe do AUS for another no LCC route.

All business, and they wouldnt waste their time on leisure (MCO/TPA/FLL)



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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11891 times:

By default, what are considered "Major" cities?

Chicago
New York
Washington
Miami
Los Angeles
Seattle
San Francisco
Atlanta
Dallas

I would argue that these are the true Major Cities..

and of the above, how many are not covered by DIRECT service to the Primary airport..

Chicago - Midway covered, doubtful for O'Hare
New York - LaGuardia, but Newark and JFK are equally Major.. possibility
Washington - Baltimore and Dulles covered, National would be a serious prize --- hmmm
Miami - Ft Lauderdale covered.. possibility
Los Angeles - LAX covered
Seattle - SEA covered
San Francisco - SFO and OAK covered
Atlanta - gaping hole in the system, direct competition with DL and FL -- hmmm
Dallas - DAL covered, repeatedly stated tehy just don't want DFW..

So my prediction would be DCA or ATL... I would agrue DCA since DL/NW will be mergin their operations by Fall 2009....



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User currently offlineFFlyerWorld From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11878 times:



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 7):



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 7):
B6 offered LGB and OAK, thats why they tanked

Atlanta is a huge business destination and WN can not ignore it for much longer. There are way more than enough people throughout the WN network who lack access to ATL.

ATL-BNA 45x (no LCC on the route, which would result in a huge stimulus)
ATL-BWI 4-5x (all northeast connections)
ATL-MDW 4x
ATL-HOU 2x (or maybe do AUS for another no LCC route.

All business, and they wouldnt waste their time on leisure (MCO/TPA/FLL)

But WN is better off sticking with their leisure traffic should they attempt ATL. The Delta corporate contracts are an extremely tough cookie to crack and DL will match them on anything they do in ATL. Not only that, AirTran won't lay down either. They would be much smarter breaking into CLT where US is not well liked last few years and may not survive long-term! Furthermore, where would they get any gates at Hartsfield? Anything that comes available will be snatched up in blink by DL or AirTran.


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11867 times:

BOS comes up as a rumor from time to time, but where could WN fly? New York and Washington are pretty much covered by AA, DL, US, B6, with UA in IAD and CO in EWR. Florida is covered pretty well also, as is Chicago. Plus they might eat out of their PVD/MHT service.


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User currently offlineAaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1523 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11856 times:

I'd concur with those posters suggesting CLT. AFAIK, CLT should have completed or should be close to completing its expansion program - 20+ gates, IIRC.

OTOH, ATL is gate constrained, and will continue to have constraints for the foreseeable future. Exceptions - cessation of operations by a current tenant or merger with a current tenant.



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11790 times:



Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 8):
I would argue that these are the true Major Cities..

Not to be too picky, but the article didn't say a major city. It said a major airport.

I do agree with others though that CLT could very well be a front-runner. ATL would be too, but gate space is a real problem.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4676 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11733 times:



Quoting FFlyerWorld (Reply 9):
The Delta corporate contracts are an extremely tough cookie to crack and DL will match them on anything they do in ATL

its not the contract in ATL theyd be going after, its the ones in Dallas, Chicago, Pheonix etc who need service to ATL in addition to the other key WN cities. those are the contracts they currently come up short in.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11715 times:

Unless WN wants to park on the ramp of the old NW hangar and bus passengers to a/c, there's not much in terms of gate space to be had @ ATL. Any gate space that becomes available automatically becomes a common use gate per airport policy. FL has been the primary user of the common use gates on D, but other airlines (including DL Connection) use those gates as well. The South Gate Complex is on indefinite hold (and the Jackson International Terminal may be shelved for a time as well) so there definitely are not any significant gates being added anytime soon. DL has even gone as far as to reopen gates that they have previously shuttered to use those spaces for staging mail and cargo.

The only airlines that have dedicated gate space on D are DL/DL Connection, US Airways, NW, and CO. Word is that the NW gates will become DL gates down the road. I definitely would not be surprised if DL gets into a little gate swapping with US and US moves into some of the NW gates and DL takes over the US gates.

WN operating out of E would probably be a non-starter due to the higher fees charged to use those gates. Plus they would be pushed out during the the afternoon and evening Transatlantic flights.

If I were to bet on what "major" airport they will start service to next year, I'm definitely agreeing with those who are saying CLT.


User currently offlineEWRandMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11703 times:

I think they'd be smart to look at Newark. Not everyone going to the "New York" area actually is looking to go to New York itself. There are plenty of business and other opportunities west of the Hudson River that WN could tap into. And the argument that EWR is too congested won't work, because LGA is just as bad, maybe worse. And, Westjet already flies into EWR so there would be another codeshare connection to take advantage of.

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23023 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11656 times:



Quoting Aaway (Reply 11):
CLT should have completed or should be close to completing its expansion program - 20+ gates, IIRC.

I'm not sure what expansion you're referring to. The expansion on E is complete, but that's for regional aircraft only.

If WN came to CLT, they'd probably get city gates on D, and they'd likely be able to have 3 or 4 (depending on whether the City has a way to get the few EN flights that use D over to E). They'd be able to have them for most of the day, and despite being international gates, they aren't that expensive (B6 uses them).



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11657 times:

I might be in the minority but my guess would have been MEM or CVG. Move in just in time to establish themselves and just wait for the peices to fall on the NW/DL side.

Now, CLT would be a good guess and another thorn in US's a**. As far as ATL goes, as everyone has beaten to death already, they will be at the mercy of the common use gates per US, CO, and Air Tran. I don't see them opening a station here with the limited resources offered. From their model, they generally offer multiple cities in an opening like this. I can already see DL and FL flooding any market that WN enters.



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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11578 times:



Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 8):
Chicago - Midway covered, doubtful for O'Hare

MKE???  Smile

It will probably be DCA or CLT. The southwest US is non-existent for WN for the most part as previously stated (except Florida).



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User currently offlineRgreenftm From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11569 times:

I too agree ATL is likely not the likely choice for WN to choose, but I wouldn't go as far as to rule it out. I bet a lot of ppl never thought WN would consider LGA...

CLT is likely the candidate, and will likely do what they have done in Denver, and announce a massive expansion effort to compete with US like they did in Denver with F9.

Between MEM and CVG, I'd have to give MEM a higher likeliness based on its geographic location and proximity to current WN cities and potential future cities. However I'd have concerns about WN opening up a focus city so close to BNA (3 hrs by car).

If I had to rank them, I'd place them in the following order:

1. CLT - They'd love to put a big hurt on US IMO.
2. MEM - Ample opportunity with NW/DL merger - I suspect that is partly why they entered MSP.
3. LGA - They have something like 14 slots already, could they get more?
4. CVG - See comments about MEM.
5. ATL - I think they would jump at the opportunity if gate space wasn't an issue.
6. Another GA airport - Macon or Savannah? Macon is only an hour southeast of ATL.


User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11547 times:



Quoting Rgreenftm (Reply 19):
. CLT - They'd love to put a big hurt on US IMO.

They have done it in LAS, so why not 1 more US hub?? They have a good track record vs US. Sorry, I would have put that included in the last post, but my edit feature wasn't working.



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23023 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11523 times:



Quoting Rgreenftm (Reply 19):
CLT is likely the candidate, and will likely do what they have done in Denver, and announce a massive expansion effort to compete with US like they did in Denver with F9.

They'd likely be limited to 4 or 5 gates; they couldn't run a DEN-sized operation out of that many gates (though given their relative weakness in the southeast and Charlotte's smaller size, CLT likely would never get as big as DEN).



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11378 times:



Quoting Rgreenftm (Reply 19):
LGA - They have something like 14 slots already, could they get more?

At the moment, I don't think there are any slots available at LGA. Some may come online in the future for new entrants but you're guess is as good as mine.

Quoting Rgreenftm (Reply 19):
Another GA airport - Macon or Savannah? Macon is only an hour southeast of ATL.

Well, Keller specifically mentioned "major airport" and the fact that he brougth up MSP and LGA would lead me to believe that SAV or MCN for that matter isn't in the equation. He specifically said that they are showing that they are not only focused on secondary markets.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 21):
They'd likely be limited to 4 or 5 gates; they couldn't run a DEN-sized operation out of that many gates (though given their relative weakness in the southeast and Charlotte's smaller size, CLT likely would never get as big as DEN).

And what would be your guess for ATL.



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6764 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11307 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 10):
BOS comes up as a rumor from time to time, but where could WN fly? New York and Washington are pretty much covered by AA, DL, US, B6, with UA in IAD and CO in EWR. Florida is covered pretty well also, as is Chicago.

Um, they'd fly to the obvious places:

BWI, MDW, PHL, MCO, TPA, PHX, LAS -- to start. If they added FLL, PBI, and RSW, I think we'd see Delta finally eliminate much of the point-to-point Florida service from BOS. I could see PIT and RDU down the line as well. They'd probably steal some of their own traffic from PVD and MHT, but I think most people using those airports would continue using them given their relative convenience.

Quoting Rgreenftm (Reply 19):
If I had to rank them, I'd place them in the following order:

1. CLT - They'd love to put a big hurt on US IMO.
2. MEM - Ample opportunity with NW/DL merger - I suspect that is partly why they entered MSP.
3. LGA - They have something like 14 slots already, could they get more?
4. CVG - See comments about MEM.
5. ATL - I think they would jump at the opportunity if gate space wasn't an issue.
6. Another GA airport - Macon or Savannah? Macon is only an hour southeast of ATL.

The problem with CLT, CVG, and MEM is that all three are relatively small markets for local traffic. CLT less so than the other two, but WN wouldn't be flying two of the three largest markets from CLT -- NYC and BOS (although CLT-IAD+DCA+BWI is larger than CLT-BOS).

LGA is already in the pipeline with the purchase of ATA for its slots.

If ATL happens some day, I think it will probably happen by purchasing AirTran. AirTran's cost structure is very similar to WN's, though they'd need to figure out what to do with all the 717's long-term.


User currently offlineBreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11275 times:

Why would WN want to fit into ATL with Airtran already there as the LCC of frequency and destination choice? I think ATL is a long shot.

BOS is my guess too. CVG/CLT/MEM will be entered at some point, but I don't think any of the three are the subject of this announcement - to me they are trying to convey "major market" feel just like LGA. There's still opportunity to hit some key markets out of BOS before B6 goes for them, and B6 is a bit stalled at the moment.



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25 BOStonsox : Aside from BWI, MDW, and PHL, all of them are served by B6. B6 serves Washington via IAD and Chicago via ORD, although Baltimore may have a shot sinc
26 Quickmover : Look at DEN and you will have your answer. One major (united), one LCC (Frontier) limited gates. The hometown LCC is now in bankruptcy and WN is clea
27 Cubsrule : There's a lot of potential for market stimulation at CLT. DH, TZ, B6, and FL all caused significant bumps in traffic when they came to town. I don't
28 Breaker1011 : You know, you have a very interesting point there! Although IIRC, gates weren't very limited at DEN were they? I mean F9 is still there, and WN has p
29 MAH4546 : MIA would be great, plenty of gate space, not much congestion, untapped domestic potential; there are weather delays, but nothing different than FLL.
30 Mariner : Cleaning up? Oh, well. As to gates, you'd also need, at ATL, a compliant airport authority as at DIA giving gates to Southwest that they refused to g
31 STT757 : You could have said the same thing about Denver, a large legacy carrier hub and a home base for an LCC. As for speculation the quote from the article
32 DeltaL1011man : all are full and even then........DL will start putting 744 on ATL-JAX,TPA,MCO,FLL if that will keep WN out Which if FL goes DL will jump. The city h
33 ScottB : B6 is becoming less and less a low fare carrier and its pricing has become more like the legacies over the past couple of years as they've felt press
34 DeltAirlines : BOS wouldn't surprise me. In the past few years, with A reopening and some gate-reshuffling, there is now some gate space open at BOS, which wasn't th
35 STT757 : LGA is even worse, yet they're able to make it work.
36 DeltaL1011man : Did ATA not have gates in LGA? I have never been to the Main building only the Delta Terminals.
37 Quickmover : Probably something like they did with those ATA 757-300s and 737-800s. Maybe intitially starting as some type of code share. Gradually phase the carr
38 STT757 : No, they shared.
39 Drerx7 : I'm hoping for ATL...one of my non-aviation in tune classmates asked me last week "Why doesn't Southwest fly to Atlanta?" If not ATL I could see them
40 Luckyone : We had this discussion a while ago, and I argued vehemently against you. Now that I've given it some consideration, I'm inclined to agree with you to
41 STT757 : Are those "major airports" though as referenced in the article?.. They said it would be the third major airport after MSP and LGA.
42 Enilria : BTW, as the OP I'd like to say that the moderators changed the topic title of this thread to read "focus city" from my original post. I had used the w
43 CIDflyer : What about opening up a hub at DFW? That way they could fly from Dallas to anywhere they want without the restrictions they have at DAL. I've always w
44 Fjnovak1 : Not a big city by a longshot, but come to Northwest Arkansas (XNA)!
45 DTWAGENT : They would be smart to stay out of ATL. DL and FL will kill them in under 6 month. Don't do it WN if you want to stay alive.
46 Post contains links STT757 : That's a joke right, WN could buy DL. LUV's market cap is double DAL's. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LUV http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DAL
47 RL757PVD : People can write off ATL all the want, but the fact of the matter is that WN needs ATL in their network offering if they are going to be a viable dome
48 Cubsrule : That's absolutely right. If I had to rank the holes in WN's route map, my list would probably look like this: 1) ATL 2) CLT 3) BOS 4) MEM 5) CVG 6) W
49 TOLtommy : Maybe from ATL itself, but thats a stretch at best. Add in a northside of Atlanta address, and MCN isn;t an option. ATL has grown primarily to the no
50 Bagpipes : there arent any! With FL aggressivelt trying to get as many gates as possible, they have outgrown themselves in ATL, Id Say BOS, DCA, CLT CVG
51 Atrude777 : Not anymore in 2014!!! Alex
52 QANTAS747-438 : The pattern so far has been WN opening new cities that ATA used to fly to. So the question is, which cities did ATA fly to that WN currently doesn't?
53 SESGDL : I'm not really seeing how that's relevant to the idea that DL and FL could push WN out of ATL. The same could be said of your beloved CO at EWR. I do
54 Bwohlgemuth : FWA!!!!! OK, maybe not as a focus city. But it would be nice!
55 BigGSFO : I'm guessing: ATL- untapped region for WN CVG- high fare airport could benefit from WN MIA - airport has the resources and traffic and could use the d
56 TZFALAX : ATA never flew scheduled service to ATL that I'm aware of. Can anyone confirm? In my 5 years there we had a few AMC charters but thats it.
57 RL757PVD : Same way it operates in the bay area OAK = PVD SJC = MHT SFO = BOS BOS is probably one of the easier airportss for Wn to gain access to, but their in
58 DCA-ROCguy : Regarding ATL, I'd bet a code-share with AirTran would be the most likely solution. For reasons detailed by others above, WN would have a tough time g
59 B752OS : I don't think BOS will be the new focus city. While I believe WN will be serving BOS in the next 2-3 years, I don't see them opening up a focus city
60 RL757PVD : I agree, I think BOS would be a token presence, I dont think the article exactly implied a focus city as much as it was referring to adding service t
61 Contrails : This is a very interesting discussion. As much as I would like to see WN at DCA (it would be a dream come true) I don't think that will be in their im
62 TSS : I've wondered the same thing. While Macon is geographically better, the airport infrastructure at MCN (at least on maps.live.com) doesn't appear to b
63 Iowaman : It appears to me in the article that WN is focused on major airports only, not places like MCN. Another new city in the fall is interesting none the l
64 Atrude777 : The wording is very odd... At first glance, it says adding a new focus city. This does NOT mean a new city to the map. It could simply state, "We will
65 MOBflyer : They've had how many quarters with an operating profit without being in these cities that they "need"?
66 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : Im gonna go out here and guess its CVG. With plenty of gate space open and delta looking for a reason to leave it makes alot of sense. CVG is still a
67 RL757PVD : Each of those quarters has has higher and higher costs, where now WN is practically a legacy, and now needs to seek out higher yeilding markets. Thei
68 ChrisNH : We automatically conclude that this next focus city will be one that they don't already fly to. But what about it being a city that they already do (o
69 FlyABR : the article doesn't say anything about a new "focus" city...it just implies look for a new destination that will just happen to be a major city.
70 KGAIflyer : AirTran flies this route. Delta also has Shuttle America (E-170) and ASA (CRJ-700) flights on it.
71 RL757PVD : yea so, FL also flies BWI That wouldnt stop WN BNA would be an instand O&D slam dunk for WN, and I think an oddball route like AUS would be good sinc
72 Cubsrule : Would it? If I'm going to Marietta, driving is probably faster. FL has gotten some local traffic on CLT (similar size city and similar distance from
73 RL757PVD : for $99 e/w I think there would be ALOT of people who would fly it. More than enough to have 50% O&D on 4x ATL-BNA flights
74 MOBflyer : And the markets that many here are saying they "need" are NOT where WN will have pricing power. Entering a two carrier hub city and almost certainly
75 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : Make them the next Frontier? Reaally? Air Tran anf Frontier are two different animals. And the argument about WN did it in DEN with UA and F9; I don'
76 Iowaman : The title of this thread needs to be changed then.
77 FlyASAGuy2005 : Again, I guess everyone missed the OP's post
78 PVD757 : Having been reading this thread for two days now, I was waiting for someone to point this out. Thank you! The article is simply implying that WN may
79 FlyASAGuy2005 : I agree. I think, in the future, WN's new markets will focus more in business travel rather than leisure. If they can tap into key markets where they
80 SNCntry32 : I have my money on MSP for whatever reason...
81 WNCrew : You do know we're already starting service on march 8th to MSP from MDW right? It's not a "new" city, it was announced a while back.... Again, this i
82 IgneousRocks : For the most part, this has been SWA's modus operandi for more than a decade. I suspect the folks at SWA have some very hearty plans for MSP. DL bett
83 GSPSPOT : ...Which is EXACTLY the type of airport GSP is. You really can't count G4 as a LCC here, as there are no daily flights, and all their flights go to F
84 Drerx7 : Of this list we could probably immediately cross off IAH, EWR, JFK, and ORD. Continental and Southwest have sort of an informal gentleman's agreement
85 SNCntry32 : Living im MSP I am well aware of that..
86 FlyASAGuy2005 : Ooop, that wasn't me.
87 WNCrew : Oh! I'm sorry then did I misunderstand... (highly possible) : ) are you saying you think MSP will be bigger for WN than is being let-on?
88 CIDflyer : I still think its possible they could start some long haul out of DFW. Dallas is their home, why wait 5 more years for Wright to be appealed when they
89 ERJ170 : Isn't DFW one of the only places that WN has stated they would not fly out of? Isn't there just a lot of bad blood between WN and Dallas? So I got to
90 CIDflyer : They may have in the past, but they have also said they would not go back to SFO and DEN and we see how that turned out. Never say never I guess....t
91 OOer : I would definetely have to say CVG. Per a recent article, CVG has consistently had some of the highest fare in the countries and below average costs t
92 Ocracoke : A more fun way to look at this: As the official airline of the NFL, WN is trying to fill its NFL gaps by flying to all major NFL cities. Since they ju
93 RDUDDJI : While I def agree that WN should add CLT (and breakup the US stronghold), CLT is not a major "airport". Huge airport, Yes, major (Cat X), not so much.
94 OOer : Someone might tell the Bengals they have a new home!
95 Srbmod : A few AMC charters? It was commonplace to see a TZ L-1011 @ ATL several times a week not too many years back. On occasion when a TriStar would go tec
96 Mariner : "Hub" has a dictionary-specific definition which, in my mind, over-rides any other. If someone uses the word "hub" in connection with almost anything
97 FlyASAGuy2005 : Symantics. In the same sense, when you here, "large" or "major" airport. Whatever that means because it seems like everone has their own definition,
98 Post contains links Enilria : The FAA defines airports into several categories. Three of the categories are "FAA-designated Small, Medium, or Large Hub airport". So, you should ta
99 Iowaman :
100 PVD757 : Per the article: "Southwest Airlines Co. may add flights to a third new major U.S. airport as early as next fall..." "...the Dallas-based carrier will
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