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JetBlue's Flight Plan: 360 Degrees Of The Compass  
User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2037 posts, RR: 8
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 5436 times:

Jet Blue CEO talks about Orlando and their plans for the future.

Here is link to story....

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin...rl-talking1708dec17,0,999094.story


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

He did a pretty good job getting around the "how are bookings to BOG" question.

Orlando-Bogota early bookings are absolutely pathetic.



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User currently offlineSKYYBLUE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5187 times:

Could the E190 do MCO-BOG-MCO? I read that the E190 only needs 63-72% load to break-even... maybe that aircraft is what the route needs initially?!

Also... MCO-SJO was previously flown by Martinair Holland with 767 equipment... shouldn't an E190 do remarkably better than a 767 on the route?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5161 times:



Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 2):
Could the E190 do MCO-BOG-MCO?

I doubt it, because of BOG's altitude.

Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 2):
Also... MCO-SJO was previously flown by Martinair Holland with 767 equipment... shouldn't an E190 do remarkably better than a 767 on the route?

It was flown with a Martinair A320 operated by LACSA.



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User currently offlineSKYYBLUE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5122 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
It was flown with a Martinair A320 operated by LACSA.

Thanks for the clarification, I just hope this route works out for B6. It's still 50-60 less seats to fill.

Do you know how the Florida - Bahamas advanced bookings are looking?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4898 times:



Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 4):

Do you know how the Florida - Bahamas advanced bookings are looking?

I've heard its doing well.

It's a short flight with relatively high fares, so even with low load-factors jetBlue should make this work.



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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4867 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
Orlando-Bogota early bookings are absolutely pathetic.

I would think that this has to do with a couple of things, including the fact that JetBlue cannot sell BOG-originating traffic (yet), as well as the fact that this flight is starting in the dead of the winter. I would think that it could pick up significantly with the combination of BOG-originating passengers and a better season.

And then again, it could be because there is a tiny amount o O&D traffic on this route. Let's see what happens.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4865 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 6):

I would think that this has to do with a couple of things, including the fact that JetBlue cannot sell BOG-originating traffic (yet), as well as the fact that this flight is starting in the dead of the winter. I would think that it could pick up significantly with the combination of BOG-originating passengers and a better season.

The inability to sell Colombia traffic definitley has something to do with it.

It is not starting at a terrible time, though. February is a good time for U.S.-Colombia traffic. U.S.-Colombia "double peaks" Slow months are April, May, September and October.

In the end though, I'm not optimistic it will work. The local market is too small.

Then again, MCO-SDQ is a small market and JetBlue is holdings its own, but they also only need to fill an E90, with a lower break-even. It will be interesting to see what effect - if any - FLL-SDQ has on MCO-SDQ. FLL-SDQ is nearly 10x the size.

[Edited 2008-12-18 16:31:28]


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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4733 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
Then again, MCO-SDQ is a small market and JetBlue is holdings its own, but they also only need to fill an E90, with a lower break-even. It will be interesting to see what effect - if any - FLL-SDQ has on MCO-SDQ. FLL-SDQ is nearly 10x the size.

This is a good point. If B6 could send the E190 on MCO-BOG, I'm sure they would. Clearly, there is a reason that B6 chose the E190 for MCO-SJO and the A320 for MCO-BOG, and I would guess that has to do with expectations for checked baggage.

MCO-SDQ did have a slow start, but recently it has been going gangbusters. FLL-SDQ, as you say, is a much larger market. However, what kind of effect do you think it would have on MCO-SDQ? MCO and FLL are obviously different markets, but maybe as far as connecting traffic? The only overlapping connecting traffic I could think of is BOS, IAD, BUF, and AUS - and I don't think those numbers are too significant (especially since there are more connecting opportunities through JFK for the first three on that list, and I would think that AUS connecting traffic is virtually nonexistent).

On any note, it is nice to see JetBlue committed to expanding its Florida-Caribbean/South America/Central America operations. It's good to try something new, and so far it has been working.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4594 times:



Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 8):
However, what kind of effect do you think it would have on MCO-SDQ? MCO and FLL are obviously different markets, but maybe as far as connecting traffic?

Dominican immigrant traffic from rural Florida, parts of which are equi-distant between FLL and MCO.

There are not many Dominicans in Orlando itself, but there are a lot between Fort Lauderdale and Orlando in rural parts of the state - like Port St. Lucie, which is roughly equidistant between FLL and MCO.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4539 times:

Barger mentioned more gates at MCO, didn't they recently move to Airside One?.. Where are they looking for more gates, with NWA moving to DL's gates at Airside four is it possible CO would move to Airside three to be with UA?.. How does Airside three compare with Airside One.

Also nice words about LH.



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User currently offlineSKYYBLUE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2927 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):
Barger mentioned more gates at MCO, didn't they recently move to Airside One?.. Where are they looking for more gates, with NWA moving to DL's gates at Airside four is it possible CO would move to Airside three to be with UA?.. How does Airside three compare with Airside One.

Also nice words about LH.

jetBlue was supposed to switch from Airside 2 to Airside 1 at MCO, but I believe these plans are on hold for now.


User currently offlineJetMARC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 547 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Anyone else notice how he mentioned 140 channels of TV? If directTV is going to install 80 channels on Continental Airlines, I wonder if this is where we will "1 up" that by adding even more programming to our line up...


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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21494 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2757 times:



Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 11):
jetBlue was supposed to switch from Airside 2 to Airside 1 at MCO, but I believe these plans are on hold for now.

I hope they stay on hold. Airside 2 is the best at the airport, as far as I'm concerned. Airside 1, not so much.

-Mir



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User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2704 times:



Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 8):
and I would guess that has to do with expectations for checked baggage.

Again, it's because of BOG's ailtitude, whchi is about 8000ft. No way the E190 could do this almost 4hr flight on the way back.

Let's hope the bookings get better when they start to sell in Colombia. BTW, february and march (except for holy week) are also slow months for air travel. The winter peak is only december-january.



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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1345 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2619 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):
Where are they looking for more gates, with NWA moving to DL's gates at Airside four is it possible CO would move to Airside three to be with UA?

That is a very good point. B6 could potentially have almost 20 gates in Airside 1 if this were to happen.


User currently offlineWerdywerd From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 563 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2382 times:



Quoting JetMARC (Reply 12):
Anyone else notice how he mentioned 140 channels of TV? If directTV is going to install 80 channels on Continental Airlines, I wonder if this is where we will "1 up" that by adding even more programming to our line up...

Read again, he said "140 channels of in-flight entertainment". I'm sure he was including the XM radio "channels" in that number. Play on words  Smile


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2321 times:



Quoting Werdywerd (Reply 16):

Read again, he said "140 channels of in-flight entertainment". I'm sure he was including the XM radio "channels" in that number. Play on words

Oh ha that makes sense. I was looking at it thinking wait wait wait, 140! haha But I knew it was something like that ha.



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