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Dreamlifter At SFO  
User currently offlineDevildog2222 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3456 times:

My parents just told me that when they were going past SFO they saw the Dreamlifter take off, it was turning to the coast towards LA. Why would the Dreamlifter be at SFO and the direction it was flying possibly LAX?

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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

Departed to CHS:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/EIA459



No Vueling No Party
User currently offlinePianos101 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

here's the flight from NGO: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/EIA496

It stopped in SFO on the way to CHS, obviously. The SFO stop was a diversion from PDX. It is carrying a Section 43 SME.


User currently onlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

A cross-post (from a similar thread), made by me:

Just a guess, but possibly a diversion?

We have been having fairly nasty winter weather up here in the Pacific NW...including just about any and all forms of frozen precipitation. Freezing rain is about the worst for adhering to the airframe. This is where rain falls as liquid, but into a layer of cold (below freezing) air below. Anything in that layer (airplanes, trees, powerlines, your car) becomes an instant ice sculpture.

It is possible that the dreamlifter has some known icing limitations that must be observed when it's flown.



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User currently offlineJmhayes From United States of America, joined May 2007, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2738 times:



Quoting Pianos101 (Reply 2):
It is carrying a Section 43 SME.

(whatsit?)


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30613 posts, RR: 84
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2713 times:
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Section 43 is the fuselage section forward of the wing (which is Section 44) and aft of Section 41 (the nose and roughly half of the fuselage aft of Doors 1L/1R). It is manufactured by Kawasaki in NGO.

Sections 44 and 46 are manufactured in Grottaglie, Italy by Alenia, so do they all go to CHS for integration? I know Vought assembles the two aft Sections - 47 and 48 - there.


User currently offlineDevildog2222 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2713 times:

My dad just called saying while he was driving to the skywest gates he noticed the DreamLifter at SuperBay. I guess with the weather in the west we might be seeing the DreamLifter a couple more times.

User currently offlineAtomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

so, it's been coming to SFO as a diversion? a fuel stop? a crew rest stop?

when it was here a few days ago, it was on the ground for several hours. i don't know how long it'll be on the ground today, but if it's not picking up or dropping off any cargo, i wonder why it stays parked for so long.


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6098 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2619 times:



Quoting Atomsareenough (Reply 7):

It was actually here a few days. Tuesday 16th to at least past 9pm on Saturday 20th when arrived back in SFO.

ASSFO



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User currently onlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2613 times:



Quoting AS739X (Reply 8):
It was actually here a few days. Tuesday 16th to at least past 9pm on Saturday 20th when arrived back in SFO.

ASSFO

Considering the rate at which flights have been cancelled/diverted, probably waiting for acceptable weather at either PAE or PDX (wherever it was going).



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User currently offlineAtomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2592 times:



Quoting AS739X (Reply 8):
Tuesday 16th to at least past 9pm on Saturday 20th when arrived back in SFO.

and then it left and came back again today?


User currently offlinePianos101 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2587 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 3):
Just a guess, but possibly a diversion?

Yes it was a diversion, probably because of winds.

Quoting Jmhayes (Reply 4):
(whatsit?)

This LCF was actually carrying a section 43 SME, not section 43 itself (from what i gather). The SME (shipping mechanical equipment) is the tooling used to secure the barrels/wings to the LCF, since it was all specifically designed to carry 787 parts.

Quoting Jmhayes (Reply 4):
so do they all go to CHS for integration?

Yes. Sections 43,44,45,11,46 all go to Global Aeronautica (at CHS) for integration. Section 47/48 FWD is built and assembled across the street at Vought.

Quoting Atomsareenough (Reply 7):
i don't know how long it'll be on the ground today

Looks like N747BC (operated as EIA471) landed 12:14PST today. It's scheduled to leave sometime tomorrow afternoon.


User currently offlineJmhayes From United States of America, joined May 2007, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

There are two of them. N249BA came in around 09:30 12-19 as EIA 496, left around 10am the next day as EIA 459. N747BC came in around 12:45 on 12-20 as EIA 471, left around 10:30 the next day as EIA 470. N747BC is back today around 12:30 as EIA 471.

User currently offlineAtomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2546 times:



Quoting Jmhayes (Reply 12):
There are two of them. N249BA came in around 09:30 12-19 as EIA 496, left around 10am the next day as EIA 459. N747BC came in around 12:45 on 12-20 as EIA 471, left around 10:30 the next day as EIA 470. N747BC is back today around 12:30 as EIA 471.

ahh, i saw N249BA here last week, and wasn't sure which one was here today. thanks for clearing it up! it's neat to see them here at SFO, even if they're just waiting out the weather.


User currently onlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2526 times:



Quoting Pianos101 (Reply 11):
Yes it was a diversion, probably because of winds.

Interesting. Does the Dreamlifter have a lower acceptable crosswind component than a production 744? I can see why it would... (greater surface area for the wind to act upon). PDX has a crosswind runway that might be long enough (3/21), but I have rarely seen air carriers use it.



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User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

Nice to see spotters at SFO capturing it in a photo.




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User currently offlineSFOnative From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2280 times:



Quoting AS739X (Reply 8):
It was actually here a few days. Tuesday 16th to at least past 9pm on Saturday 20th when arrived back in SFO.

She caught my attention on Friday afternoon from way up top on I-280.  Wow!

I knew that huge plain white fuselage was not a common site sitting in front of the Superbay!


User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

Are there only a handful of Evergreen Cargo pilots who can fly her? Or is it bid out like any other flight?

User currently offlinePianos101 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1985 times:



Quoting 413X3 (Reply 17):
Are there only a handful of Evergreen Cargo pilots who can fly her? Or is it bid out like any other flight?

Seems like there are a handful of crew that fly the LCFs, but there aren't set crews that always fly together. I wouldn't be surprised if there is special training to fly it, especially in crosswind take-offs and landings. Must handle like a beast...


User currently offlineDevildog2222 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

Well I wonder if both planes will see each other in the air. The last time I checked they were almost over Texas, one is going to SFO and the other is going to CHS. The one coming into SFO should be here by 1437 PST.

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