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Swiss Aviation Thread 19  
User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 25462 times:

Thread 18 is at almost 300 replies, time for number 19.

For reference, here's number 18:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...al_aviation/read.main/4140682/#287

Let me start this off with some refreshing news: The refurbishment of the LX A343s will start in June 2009 and will be completed by March 2010. All A343's will be refitted with the same cabin that will be in the new A333s. Finally, LX will have a standardised product throughout its longhaul fleet.

Also, the new LX uniforms were presented to the employees at LX's xmas party on december 18th. Sadly I couldn't be there. Has anybody seen them yet? Pics?

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27028 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 25390 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Thread starter):
All A343's will be refitted with the same cabin that will be in the new A333s. Finally, LX will have a standardised product throughout its longhaul fleet.

Very good. I cant wait to see them. I guess you will be able to tell which ones have the new product by the seat maps which will be significantly different?

Quoting SandroZRH (Thread starter):
Has anybody seen them yet? Pics?

Will be interesting to see those.


Happy Christmas to all Swiss Anetters.... Hope I got the spelling right !!

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/swisstrip2007/xmasswiss.jpg


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 25356 times:

Hey Sandro. Are you back from Vero Beach? Are you now a real IFR, two engine pilot?  Wink

User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 25346 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Happy Christmas to all Swiss Anetters.... Hope I got the spelling right !!

haha yep, you got that right, thanks a lot and i wish you the same Big grin

Quoting ZRH (Reply 2):
. Are you back from Vero Beach? Are you now a real IFR, two engine pilot?

Back yes, IFR rated - not yet. ME rated - yes  Wink


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 25348 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Thread starter):
Let me start this off with some refreshing news: The refurbishment of the LX A343s will start in June 2009 and will be completed by March 2010. All A343's will be refitted with the same cabin that will be in the new A333s. Finally, LX will have a standardised product throughout its longhaul fleet.

Those are great news, I hope this schedule is not too optimistic, looks like the refurbishment will be combined with C/D checks as judging the age at least of the inital 9 A343's that were delivered new from Airbus in 2003-2004 that would make sense? BTW will the A343's also receive the new IFE system that will be installed in the A333's?
Also, what about the new First Class, as far as I know the improvements will be rather cosmetical than revolutionary however are there some more precise infos?

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 3):

Back yes, IFR rated - not yet. ME rated - yes Wink

Oh well in less than a year you will be flying us A neters through europe hopefully  Wink


User currently offlinePP705 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 25257 times:

Finally a new thread  Big grin  bigthumbsup   bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 25235 times:

Libya banned SWISS from flying to Tripoli. They say it is because of technical reasons, construction works at the airport.
Haha, who believes, so stupid. Anyway who wants to fly into this dangerous country with a lunatic president. I only hope that Switzerland also bans the Libyan flights to GVA.

http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/schwei...wiss_nach_tripolis__1.1566781.html (in German)


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 25216 times:



Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4):
looks like the refurbishment will be combined with C/D checks as judging the age at least of the inital 9 A343's that were delivered new from Airbus in 2003-2004 that would make sense?

Correct.  thumbsup 

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4):
BTW will the A343's also receive the new IFE system that will be installed in the A333's?

I don't know, but i don't see why they wouldnt?

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4):
Also, what about the new First Class, as far as I know the improvements will be rather cosmetical than revolutionary however are there some more precise infos?

No idea there, we'll have to wait and see.

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4):
Oh well in less than a year you will be flying us A neters through europe hopefully

Hopefully  Wink

Quoting ZRH (Reply 6):
Libya banned SWISS from flying to Tripoli. They say it is because of technical reasons, construction works at the airport.

Thanks for the laugh Big grin Time to use that aircraft elsewhere.


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1826 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 25209 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 6):
Anyway who wants to fly into this dangerous country with a lunatic president. I only hope that Switzerland also bans the Libyan flights to GVA.

With respect, that's hardly an argument. If Swiss were to stop flying to dangerous countries or countries with lunatic presidents, then basically that would mean stopping flights to the US (lunatic president), Thailand (unstable political situation), South Africa (very high crime rate), Brazil (dito), Saudi Arabia (totalitarian regime) and China (dito). And let's not forget Japan, which also deserves to be boycotted because they still hunt whales. Too bad some of these destination, including Tripolis, are actually quite profitable for Swiss.

As for Afriqiyah, they already canceled their flights to GVA.


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 25098 times:

Hey guys, I got a pic of the new LX Uniforms:



Not bad at all in my opinion, but I don't like the tie!


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1826 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 25059 times:

Looks just a boring as what they had before in my opinion. Much ado about nothing!

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 25047 times:

I don't care much about the uniforms but only from the picture I don't like them. I prefer blue instead of this brown. But I'll wait till I have seen them in reality.

User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 25035 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 11):
I prefer blue instead of this brown

It's actually supposed to be a grey-tone Big grin


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27028 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 25026 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 6):
Haha, who believes, so stupid. Anyway who wants to fly into this dangerous country with a lunatic president. I only hope that Switzerland also bans the Libyan flights to GVA.

Very true. Libya's loss.

------------

The uniforms dont look that different actually. I prefer the current one IMHO.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24924 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 7):
Correct.

This probably also doesn't happen too often that within 2 years those ex AC / OS planes are getting twice a completely new interior. Of course it's also a bit of a waste of money, nevertheless there was probably no other solution as by the time those planes joined SWISS the new Cabin was still in development and the old interiors of those planes did not match the standards.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 9):
Not bad at all in my opinion, but I don't like the tie!

I agree regarding the ties.

[Edited 2008-12-23 13:49:08]

User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 661 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 24798 times:



Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4):
Also, what about the new First Class, as far as I know the improvements will be rather cosmetical than revolutionary however are there some more precise infos?

LX is going to present its new First class to the public during an event at the Dolder Grand Hotel, Zurich on Jan, 21st .

So, it is going to be more than just a new blanket....

Merry Christmas,
KA.



Keep smiling - you might be on Radar!
User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 24692 times:



Quoting Ka (Reply 15):
LX is going to present its new First class to the public during an event at the Dolder Grand Hotel, Zurich on Jan, 21st .

So, it is going to be more than just a new blanket....

Hehe...Probably. Thanks for the info.

Merry Christmas to you all!


User currently offlineAntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 24451 times:

Seems like IJM, former "Hopp Schwiiz" A320, has been "neutralised" again, as seen here: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Swiss...nal-Air/Airbus-A320-214/1455328/L/

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 9):

Looks classy, I like it. Btw, the the gentleman in the middle wear an earring??



Good day to you sir! Please turn left, your seat is in the first row.
User currently offlineHBJZA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 24224 times:



Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 17):
Btw, the the gentleman in the middle wear an earring??

Yeap he does. What I heard is that Swiss in one rare airline to allow earring for male F/A's. Strange but typically swiss (in term of country culture and not company) in a way...


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 24216 times:



Quoting HBJZA (Reply 18):
What I heard is that Swiss in one rare airline to allow earring for male F/A's

But that gentleman is a captain, not an F/A Big grin Actually LX is quite strict when it comes to male accessoires. We had a "Uniform & Appearance" course a few months ago. They even restrict what kinda watch you're allowed to wear. Big GShock watches or the likes are not allowed.


User currently offlineAviationMaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2481 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 24169 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 19):
Big GShock watches or the likes are not allowed.

... the likes that aren't Swiss made.  Wink


User currently offlineRanguin From Switzerland, joined Jan 2007, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 24014 times:

any news for the summer timetable for ZRH or LX....

New ZRH-LYS for LX ?


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23904 times:



Quoting Ranguin (Reply 21):
any news for the summer timetable for ZRH or LX....

Regarding the Long Haul network there will probably be no changes. Maybe some minor adjustments to freuqencies however no new destinations offered. Nevertheless by introducing the Airbus A330-343 as of spring always more destinations will have a 3 class product.

On the European network, Olbia will be added by LX is I am not mistaken


User currently offlineRanguin From Switzerland, joined Jan 2007, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 23854 times:

i heard Catania...

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 22):



User currently offlineNCB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 23822 times:

Anyone have any more info about where the A332's will go when they get replaced by the A333's? Someone mentionned 7 for SU, where are the other 4 headed?
Any chance that these end up at SN? Some of them still have the SN interior so could be handy.

I thought SU were getting 10 new A332's through Aercap, what's the deal about these 7 used ones? Are they part of the deal or additional ones?

Thanks.

Uniform looks the same except for the tie but overall it looks ok.


25 Ka : 7 will go to SU (HB-IQA, C, H, I, J, K, O); 2 will go to VN (QG, P); and for the two ex-SN-birds a solution is still being seeked for (HB-IQR/msn324
26 LXA340 : I guess the extra capacity and the idea that those planes are new also played a role. An A332 with a 3 Class configuration doesn't offer too many sea
27 Standby87 : And for flight deck crew as well - my 1st Jumpseat visit on Swissair on MD-11 Osaka-Zurich featured an earring wearing captain. Everyone, male and fe
28 LXA333 : Any info on which flights the first a333 be assigned to JFK? LX 16/17 or 14/15?
29 Ka : That is why I wrote "one of the reasons".... KA.
30 ZRH : No no no not everyone. Most people I know (not only in my age but also in the 20ties) find it absolutely disgusting like I do, at least at men but al
31 LXA340 : Nothing is loaded to the systems yet. This will probably occur at some point in the next 1 or 2 months. It was definetly a good choice. This also con
32 717fan : I read somewhere (TravelInside?) that Hello is expanding for summer 09 its Swiss operations especially out of Zurich? Do they have plans to start sche
33 Ham : Hi there, There will be more charter operations ex ZRH and GVA than last year, but Hello will not enter the scheduled operations market. They're look
34 LXA340 : It looks like LX is deploying for some reasons again HB-IQR, I thought HB-IQR is stored at ZRH and waiting for a new operator? Also interesting to see
35 SandroZRH : A332 to LHR? I thought they weren't allowed to operate widebodies into LHR anymore since they "sold" some of their slots to BA?
36 LXA340 : Yeah, for the past 3 days now they are using an A332 on one daily flight. They even had one stay over night at LHR 2 days ago as it operated the last
37 SRA330-223 : yep, since december there are a couple of shorthaul flights which are operated by widebodies. i was assigned on one flight to CDG on december 17th, op
38 SandroZRH : Ye I can see why such a short flight on a fully packed widebody ain't fun for the cabin crew, but it's definately fun for the cockpit crew. Operating
39 LXA340 : It doesn't happen too often these days. I remember SR operating almost daily flights to FRA, MUC and LHR at the end of the 90's till their colapse us
40 HBDAN : Yep, 4 daily RJ100 with night stop in LYS starting with the summer timetable. HBDAN
41 Post contains links AntonovA330 : In an other thread it says LX will start operations to Prishtina (ex-GVA) as of May 16. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.ma
42 JoFMO : Maybe we could see some adjustments to the Africa network when the SN takeover by LH is approved. The should make sure to not show up at the same day
43 ZRH : I am not sure. Some statements in this thread are strange. They call EDW a scheduled airline, but they are charter. As EDW now belongs to SWISS I dou
44 Post contains links Helvknight : I just saw that Swiss Aviation Training are looking for a ground instructor for the ERJ 170/190 series to set up initial and conversion training for t
45 Knightsofmalta : In Cash Daily there was a short article some time this week which stated that LX would be keeping Avros until 2015 and that they were also considering
46 AntonovA330 : Not that my opinion is of great influence, but ... Haven't flown them in great numbers, but I everytime found them less cozy than eg. RJ100s
47 ZRH : I don't consider Cash Daily as a reliable source. But my question: would the C-series be LCY certified which is the "conditio sine qua non" for the AV
48 TIA : It's already loaded up.
49 ZRH : I think you are mixing up something. You mean the CRJ aircrafts and not the C-series. As I know the C-series do not fly yet. But nevertheless I agree
50 SandroZRH : I don't think so. SAT is big in the Ejet training, and I believe they have an exclusive contract with embraer for Ejet transition training in Europe
51 Post contains links AntonovA330 : Oops! Sorry about, I stand corrected. Just had a look at it: http://www.bombardier.com/en/aerospa...aft/cseries?docID=0901260d800091e6 What plane(s)
52 DALCE : any chance of getting an 332 into AMS some day soon?
53 Viscount724 : The line between charter and scheduled for many European leisure airlines has been blurred in recent years as most, including Edelweiss, also sell in
54 Post contains images LXA340 : It would make sense to replace the Avro's starting in 2012-2015 with around 30 Embraer jet's and simultaniously increase the Swiss European Fleet. I
55 SandroZRH : That's right, but as I understand it, the Edelweiss brand is still a charter brand, while the "scheduled" tickets are being sold through LX. You can
56 Helvknight : Thanks Sandro, I stand corrected. How about operationally? Will there be integration of the EDW and LX crews, either on the cockpit or cabin level?
57 SandroZRH : I don't know, but I hope so
58 LXA340 : If EDW crews have a lower cost structure for their Cabin and Cockpit crews then no, but if it's simmilar then why not. LX pilots and crews will get a
59 SandroZRH : I heard that EDW Cockpit crews have a lower salary structure than their LX counterparfts, so yes, from a pure economical point of view it might not b
60 Post contains links AntonovA330 : There seem to be many additional flights to MOW lately, just stumbled on this: http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/ZRH/..._level3=324&t=Masterflights&a3=3
61 Post contains links LXA340 : Yeah, the Russians are curretnly celebrating their Christmas and New Year. SWISS published it's traffic statistics for 2008. They transported 13.5 Mi
62 Mozart : Since I never posted in the Swiss aviation threads but always read them, let me just say thanks to all that make this thread be alive and interesting.
63 SandroZRH : It is true that EDW serves AMS in behalf of LX, and surely AMS is a premium destination, but this probably has to do with aircraft scheduling. Also t
64 Helvknight : I was at the Hallenstadion last night (sorry Chlöötie) and it looks like there will be at least 2 charters to MQF for the first leg of the Champions
65 SandroZRH :
66 Saab2000 : Hey guys, What's new in Swiss aviation? I guess I should read this more often. But I don't. Breaks my heart...... I'll be in Switzerland in February f
67 Post contains links ZRH : Zurich airport had 22.1 mi passengers last year. 6.6 % more than 2007. http://www.20min.ch/news/zuerich/story/26668690 (in German)
68 LXA340 : What happened there, too hard landing? Does anybody know what is going on with the A330 operations of LX. Currently it looks like they are utilising
69 Post contains links Lsgg : GVA airport had 11.53 mi passengers last year. 5.7 more than 2007. http://www.gva.ch/fr/Desktopdefault....6342/usetemplate-communiquepresse/
70 LXA340 : LX41 from LAX that was scheduled to arrive today at around 4PM made a diverrsion to JFK and arrived to ZRH around 5 hours late. If I am not mistaken o
71 Post contains links Viscount724 : The flight path yesterday for most US West Coast-Europe nonstops was very southerly, probably to benefit from the location of the strongest jetstream
72 Post contains links ZRH : SWISS finally revealed its new first class. A kind of suites: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ss_releases/Pages/pr_20090121.aspx
73 Post contains links ZRH : Sorry, only saw it later. There is a special thread about the new first class: Swiss Unveils New F-Class Cabin[Edited 2009-01-21 07:22:54]
74 Post contains links LXM83 : New airline and route for BSL: Danube Wings, BTS-BSL, 4x weekly, ATR-72. Currently one-way fares for EUR 33 all included available on their website ht
75 Post contains links ZRH : Interesting article about the kerosene price: they say that many airlines lose a lot of money paying too much for the fuel because they hedged the pri
76 RJ100 : Great to see Switzerland has again a direct air link to Slovakia. I travelled a couple of time to Bratislava on SkyEurope, its a really nice city. Als
77 Infodesk : Old news now, but it was in fact a medical emergency that caused the diversion. Happy flying Infodesk
78 LXA340 : Thanks for the info. Looks like the flight took quite a differentr route compared to normal if JFK was the alterntive for the medical diversion
79 Viscount724 : Yes, that was already mentioned in this or another thread. Almost all US West Coast-Europe nonstops were taking much more southerly routings than usu
80 LXA340 : Is JFK closed for Take off for some hours during the night, as the flight ended up with around 6 hour delay when arriving to ZRH?
81 DALCE : Rumours are said that LX will discontinue the SCL service. Did anybody hear anything about this? Would be a true pity for us from LX Cargo, as the SCL
82 Post contains links ZRH : Yippee! From January 27th on the viewing deck E at ZRH is accessible daily by a half-hourly shuttle bus. The departure of the bus will be marked. It i
83 LXA340 : This would be answering your question, for the time being there should not be any plans to discontinue the serice.
84 LXM83 : I've heard that rumour too. My guess would be that they are working on a code-sahre agreement with future *A member TAM.
85 SandroZRH : I haven't heard anything, but if there really is some truth in this, the flight must be doing really bad if it's economically better for LX to have t
86 Post contains links Ka : LX is getting another A320: quoting www.atwonline.com: "CIT Aerospace announced the lease of one A320-200 to Swiss International Air Lines. Aircraft i
87 Knightsofmalta : Well, before they added the tag to SCL the aircraft was cleaned and even washed from the outside during the layover in SAO. So the time it spent on t
88 Sr176 : But if they drop it, would LH take over ?
89 SandroZRH : I was told that they are to receive an ex-LTU A320 in April, is this the aircraft in question?
90 Helvknight : It looks like Metallurg Magnitogorsk are coming tomorrow to the second leg of the CHL final on a chartered 735 from R2. I was hoping for some exotic R
91 Knightsofmalta : From what I understood yes, and a code-share would be put in place once JJ is a full member.
92 LXA340 : If the plane is being washed from the outside and getting probably a (deep) interior cleaning the time is used wisely and can help to keep ground tim
93 ZRH : Not correct. They arrived today (Tuesday) and the match is tomorrow. You could see them arrive at ZRH on "Sportaktuell" on TV SF 2. [Edited 2009-01-2
94 Helvknight : Ah that explains it, I was looking for Magnitogorsk. This one must be a fan charter.
95 FlySwiss : I believe that the two IL62 and the IL96 of today from Moskau Vnukovo are fan charters as well.
96 Ham : What? IL62s in ZRH? Aren't those banned due to noise regulations? I think the only exception would be official government travel, and that could mean
97 Ham : A quick check on ZRH's website revealed the registrations. Those are indeed government aircraft, namely RA-96012 (IL96), RA-86468 (IL62) and RA-86466
98 SandroZRH : According to my sources it's not replacing any aircraft currently in LX's fleet, but will actually be an addition to the fleet. Does that mean we mig
99 Post contains links Philzh : Link to Tagesanzeiger with video of some of the WEF-related official planes in ZRH - including what seems to be a very noisy Ilyushin: http://www.tage
100 Post contains links ZRH : Here a short movie about WEF aircrafts in ZRH: http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich/...en-landen-in-Kloten/story/29010428
101 ZRH : Hey Phil you beat me for few seconds Cheers ZRH (Philipp)
102 LXA340 : And a quality upgrade
103 ZRH : Not necessarily. I find the the Helvetic F100 at least as comfortable as the 320. Especially the 2-3 layout.[Edited 2009-01-28 13:15:17]
104 AviationMaster : They'll be leaving ZRH as fast as possible after the thrashing Magnitogorsk received by ZSC!
105 FlySwiss : I do not like the spotters staying in the park house P6 and looking in my office. I'd like spotting too. But if one of those is a A.netter and he coul
106 Helvknight : It looks like they're going right now, a YL 735 to Magnitogorsk is boarding. The R2 fan charter 735 is already gone, took off at 11:15. And wasn't it
107 LXA340 : It's not an LX crew taking care of passengers which is not such an issue in Y class however in C class where more attentive service is required the r
108 LXA340 : Just read in an other forum that insider infos of SWISS say that the first LX A333 flight will be on Monday March 30th to JFK on flight LX014. Both da
109 SandroZRH : LX has cancelled all flights to/from London until 19:00, the only flight that arrived was the first morning flight with a 4 hours delay. All other arr
110 SandroZRH : Now all flights cancelled except for the two late evening LHR and LCY arrivals. MXP and LUG also suffer from snow, 3 MXP flights and 3 out of 4 LUG fl
111 LXA340 : I was wondering about that as well. Suprisingly the 2 flights that LX is operating to LHR today were on A320's and not on A321's.
112 LXfan : Hello ! I have a question for the swiss specialists. A new line to Lyon St Exupery will be open for the summer timetable, and operated with 4 daily fl
113 LXA340 : SWISS is going to receive an other A320 in the next couple of months. In addition the SWISS European fleet is not used to maxium capacity due to cock
114 Someone83 : I'm currently hearing some rumours (source at OSL) that Swiss has gotten slot at OSL for a ZRH-OSL route this summer. Any of you guess heard anything
115 ZRH : This could very well be. I would also love seeing SWISS back to Oslo. Probably insiders like Sandro know more about it.
116 SandroZRH : First time I hear this, but awesome if true
117 FlySwiss : I heard this rumour aswell that LX will fly to OSL in summer. I heard aswell that TAM requested slots in ZRH for the summer 09 and that Kingfisher wil
118 ZRH : Great, if true. Finally a Brazilian airline back in ZRH. I remember well these beautiful Varig DC 10s here. TAM from GIG?
119 SandroZRH : There was a time when TAM was still a new, small carrier and served ZRH with A332s That service didn't last long though. I'm not sure wether it's gon
120 Someone83 : The only thing I've heard is that LX got slots at OSL, nothing about how many or when. SKs OSL-ZRH is as you said, double daily, and with LX-codeshar
121 LXM83 : New route by EasyJet announced today: From 02Apr09: EZY8863 12345-7 LGW1650 ZRH1935 EZY8863 -----6- LGW1635 ZRH1920 EZY8864 12345-7 ZRH2005 LGW2050 EZ
122 LXM83 : As of yesterday, TAM was not holding any slots for the S09 season in ZRH. That is true, but it often doesn't mean a lot. It could be just one of many
123 Post contains links LXfan : New Air France line : Air France will operated at the summer timetable a new line, Basel Amsterdam, with Cityjet RJ85 The timetables are : BSL 0617 AM
124 DALCE : Just heard LX will terminate TIP ops at the end of March
125 Helvknight : Not before time after the Libyan's antics. I'm sure they can find better places for that A320.
126 RJ_Delta : Any confirmation about SCL route? According Servisair operations in SCL, Swiss will drop SCL route after March 30. Saludos,
127 ZRH : They already had to stop them because crazy Qaddafi is angry with Switzerland and banned all SWISS flights to Libya without reason.
128 Post contains links and images Vadheim : It would be great to see Swiss back at OSL 3-4 years back they used to fly OSL-ZRH twice and thrice daily. I think twice daily is enough between OSL-Z
129 Poh2 : Hey guys, My brother's flight LX 455 from LCY to ZRH was cancelled tonight...apparently aircraft suffered damage on landing and couldn't make the flig
130 SandroZRH : deja-vu! Hope it's not too bad. Probably either bad weather in LCY or still the aftermath of the snow-meltdown the other day when LX had to cancel al
131 RJ100 : Fantastic news about Air France-KLM starting BSL-AMS Finally again a link to the AMS hub which will open many new connections from BSL. Other good new
132 SandroZRH : Planning to use that service, their fares look promising
133 Post contains links ZRH : There was a minor incident at LCY. They had to close the runway for a certain time. Thread about it: LCY Closed Due To Minor Incident
134 ME AVN FAN : - re BSL-MLH, what will the future now bring ? I mean, with Schengen introduced, the present division into two parts could be dropped, with the BSL-M
135 LXA340 : LX has cancelled flights today to JNB, ORD and LX016/017 to JFK. Is that due to very low loads or technical reasons?
136 AntonovA330 : At ch-aviation.ch it says that LX will take over LH's remaining TXL routes. Not sure how new this news is, as it also states LX's intentions of launch
137 SandroZRH : Old, well to me anyway LH doesn't fly from TXL to ZRH anymore, and LX now operates 5 x daily A32S service.
138 LXfan : Actually AF fly only to MLH (french side) and not BSL. At the french side, still operate AF, Twinjet, Chalair (all domestics flights) and some charte
139 Thomas_Jaeger : I guess one of the problems there will be that the EU-Switzerland border will still have customs but no longer require passport control.
140 ME AVN FAN : - This mainly applies to the cargo side but as the incoming changes in ZRH show not the passenger side.
141 ZRH : Wrong. Also the passengers still have to go through customs (green/red line) as it was, but they don't have any immigration control anymore coming fr
142 ME AVN FAN : - Sure, but this is what really counts. Most of all at the road/rail borders. And not to have to go through immigration control can save you quite co
143 ZRH : Of course. But I think somebody meant that this makes it probably difficult in BSL to make the Swiss terminal to non-Schengen and the French to Schen
144 ME AVN FAN : - This might be the idea, to have the "Landside" part of BSL/MLH united, with Schengen- and non-Schengen-zones arranged according to practicality and
145 AustrianZRH : Storm starts to affect ZRH, as it looks. On radar.zhaw.ch/radar, I just saw 5 planes in a row going missed. BR 151 seems to try it again, BA 710, LX 2
146 SandroZRH : Yep. Quite interesting approaches can be seen from my room here You should listen in on liveatc. The winds have weakened a bit, around 9:00 it was 32
147 AustrianZRH : I'd love to, but I'd never look on websites nothing to do with my work during worktime . At least not if they make sounds .
148 Post contains links ZRH : According to the NZZ 25 aircrafts had to go-arround till noon at ZRH. Some of them tried it a second time others were diverted to another airport: htt
149 LIPZ : According to SWISS website this morning flight LX 289 (op by HB-JMA) coming from JNB heading to ZRH has been diverted to FCO. Does anyone know the rea
150 Post contains links LXM83 : New route for BSL effective 30Mar09 - Ryanair twice weekly from Marseille (MRS) with the following schedule: FR7704 1------ MRS0630 BSL0750 / FR 7705
151 LXA340 : LX087 from YUL also diverted this morning. It diveted to Shanon, possibly both cases due to the wind conditions in ZRH as a precautionary matter, or
152 SandroZRH : actually some tried it three times, i swear i saw that same AY E170 three times within half an hour oh, well...
153 ZRH : At about 16:00 I made a short visit a r/w 28 (just outside the fence). It was really spectacular and bit threatening when you saw these birds (mainly
154 DALCE : LX 52/53 ZRH-BOS-ZRH 13/14 & 15feb operated with LH 343 iso LX 343 due crew shortage.
155 CX288 : Interesting. Any idea whether this is to happen on more occasions in the future? I will by flying this route on the 22nd of Feb and would love to be
156 DALCE : I will keep an eye on it, expect info for your dates next Wednesday or so.
157 LXA340 : That's interesting as the LX long haul fleet is not used to full capacity currently so it has to be due to crew shortage, altough wouldn't this be a
158 SandroZRH : woohoo, 6 out of 12 ATPL exams passed The final 6 will be in march.
159 ZRH : Congratulations. Hurry up As read, SWISS urgently needs more crews when they even have to use LH 343.
160 LHBSL : Hi CX288 I will be on the flight on Friday (got it out of my reserve pattern). The whole crew is FRA based, so I think the other flights will be perfo
161 Post contains links AustrianZRH : Here a youtube vid of the crosswind approaches last Tue, including some go arounds . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NdLN6R98nc
162 SandroZRH : Thanks, I'm doing my best I saw that earlier aswell. Damn I wish I had been there, at least i saw an A343 go around while driving down to the aiport
163 Post contains images SandroZRH : There has been another accident today at Samedan, and it looks a lot more severe than the globalexpress a few days ago: It looks like the front part o
164 Post contains links ZRH : Unfortunately two casualties and one injured: http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/panora...chneemauer_geprallt_1.1983367.html (in German)
165 Post contains links ZRH : Here you can watch a short movie with landings and go-arounds at ZRH on Tuesday: http://www.20min.ch/news/zuerich/story/30621253
166 LXA340 : SWISS seems to have an issue with their heating system on their A332's. My father is quite regularely on the 2 class A332's that fly to TLV last time
167 RJ100 : And the good news continue for BSL as well with 3 new summer routes: -Rimini every Saturday with Air Berlin -Calvi every Saturday with Air France Rég
168 LXA340 : According to another forum LH will operate long haul flights for at least another week or so. The reason for that is problems with 2 A332's (altough 1
169 AntonovA330 : There are currently several threads concerning job cuts (BA, AF). This made me wonder if Swiss will now get more job applications from other airlines'
170 Knightsofmalta : If airlines like BA and AF are cutting jobs, what makes you think LX will be any different? Their pilot shortage problem is about to solve itself. Fo
171 LXA340 : As far as I know LX has all it's F/A courses runing at full capacity, nevertheless not every newly hired F/A stays at the job for too long some quit
172 Knightsofmalta : Well that's precisely it. I think SWISS is probably well positioned to brave the storm but now is simply not the right time to want to join the airli
173 LXA340 : That,s true. In 2 years or so things might look a bit better again. But as you said no body knows how long this financial crisis will last.
174 SandroZRH : Isn't it interesting. When i applied in 2007, they'd almost lay out the red carpet, and now when i'm heading towards the end of the training, it's pr
175 Knightsofmalta : So you should be. I don't think LX will have to layoff anybody or anything like that and they will certainly need more pilots and other employees in
176 SandroZRH : No, not yet. In fact, nobody really knows if and when we'll have to do that. Since we do our ATPL exams in English, people said that we might not nee
177 Knightsofmalta : I do think you will have to take the test. ICAO document 9835 is very clear on that: it is a language test only which may not involve testing the can
178 LXA340 : Luckily SWISS is in a very strong financial position and one of the most finanical healthy airlines in the world currently. Especially in the Cabin /
179 RJ_Delta : Swiss will suspend SCL route from March 28. It would be a temporaly suspension or permanent. Saludos,
180 Thomas_Jaeger : This is a permanent withdrawal from SCL from what it sounds like. They will codeshare with TAM instead.
181 Sr176 : What a pity, now as I am supposed to visit Chile.
182 Helvknight : Well if you want you can go to Saudi on LX, we have a job there Jürg
183 SandroZRH : My dad could give you some hints about the best sights to visit and the nightlife...oh..wait
184 LXA340 : lol.... THe schedule will remain the same for ZRH-GRU-ZRH? I guess the plane will receive a deep interor cleaning program and get washed from the out
185 LXfan : I've just look on KVS : Timetable look to be : LX92 ZRH 22:40 GRU 05:35 (+1) A343, Daily LX93 GRU 18:50 ZRH 11:20 (+1) A343, Daily For information, t
186 LXA340 : If they'll use the ground time wisely in GRU with aircraft cleaning from the outside and an interior deep clean this would do it also.
187 Humberside : Germania have put Bari-BSL back on sale again for summer. Wonder if it will start this time. Initially once a week, rising to twice weekly later
188 Helvknight : A little problem at LCY. From today's Sun "newspaper"
189 Post contains links OA260 : For all you Swiss fans like me its your chance to vote for Swiss as best European and best Longhaul carrier in the Irish travel awards. www.travelawar
190 LXfan : Oh, nice !! I will vote now !! Other news from Swiss... At Paris CDG they will move from terminal 2B to terminal 1 from the 29 march 2009. Only the L
191 RJ100 : Looks better this time because it is in cooperation with Tuifly and bookable on Tuifly as well.
192 SandroZRH : Nooooooooo...!!!! No offense. but i HATE CDG 1. It's so cold, non user-friendly and inconvenient. 2B however is a great terminal, very efficient with
193 OA260 : Totally agree , I went through it back in December and it was like arriving in something from the days of the USSR. Its no ZRH thats for sure . The b
194 Viscount724 : Until LX completely replace their A330-200s with their new A330-300s and their current outmoded and uncomfortable business class seats on the 332s di
195 OA260 : Whilst the old J class seats are sub standard the level of catering and service still wins hands down and with the new product coming online things w
196 Sr176 : I know that the new A330-300 is deployed on ZRH - JFK. Is there any chance for ZRH - YUL, late april 09 ?
197 OHLHD : Will a new A333 replace a 332 at a one to one ratio or will they keep some A332 as well?
198 ZRH : The plan was to replace the 332 one by one with 333. The total 333 order is at the moment 11 frames (two additional to the original order of 9). Ther
199 Sr176 : but it still gives room for an eventual expansion in 2011. The A330-200 could still do very well to TLV or CAI.
200 LXfan : The positive point of T1 is that any flight need a bus transfert. The negative point of T2B is that from a few months, this terminal is used by EZY !
201 AviationMaster : LX has yet to receive its first A333. The first one is due to arrive sometime in the next two months.
202 Viscount724 : I don't find LX catering any better than most other major European carriers. And on their European network, one problem I have encountered frequently
203 LXA340 : As long as they will get completely refurbished from A to Z otherwise passengers will look for alternatives. It would be an option though to operate
204 Post contains links ZRH : Unique, Zurich Airport AG has a huge project. They want to build a new business center just behind the terminals (Butzenbühl). 200,000 sqm floor spac
205 Toulouse : Hello Swiss members and Grüezzi! Before starting a separate thread, thought I'd pop in here and see if you could help. Just wanted to know if you can
206 Post contains links Thomas_Jaeger : Hi Toulouse, Check out www.dpts.org for Geneva, there should absolutely be no problems spotting in Geneva whatsoever. There are lots of spotters all a
207 Toulouse : Hi Tom, Thanks a lot for that link, a wonderful site! Looking forwrad to a bit of spotting at GVA, just hope the weather is nice (according to French
208 OHLHD : Does anyone know how QR is doing in both ZRH and GVA? Since GVA gets downgraded to A319 it looks like there are not that many passengers?
209 Post contains links Swissa330 : Hey guys Just a quick note for those interested in the old SR days: There have been many changes and additions to the Swissair Fansite on www.swissair
210 LXA340 : They also stoped flying to Newark from GVA or was it IAD?
211 RJ100 : Looks like WizzAir will finally arrive to Switzerland with a three weekly Basel-Sofia service with A-320. Anyone knows more about that?
212 Post contains links LXfan : I've just found that online : http://www.sofiaecho.com/2009/02/26/...om-sofia-to-basel-kiev-and-tunisia 3 weekly flights with A320
213 Viscount724 : It was EWR. The DOH-GVA-EWR service was only intended to be temporary. When they started DOH-JFK nonstop service they dropped the GVA-EWR tag-on sect
214 LXA340 : LX's route to SOF has low loads. Lets see if this will make matters even worse. On another note LX242 (ZRH-DXB/MCT) operated today by HB-JMI (A343) r
215 LXA340 : Any news on LX's first A333 it should've had already it's first test flight recently given that it will be delivered by the end of the month?
216 Raptor72 : Are there any information about the seats in LX A333 Economy available? As some said, they should be the ones LH liked to use in the A380? LX only sho
217 FatmirJusufi : Does anybody knows when is going to be on air ZRH livestream webcam? Regards, Fatmir
218 ZRH : On the airport page they say "soon". But what could that mean?
219 FatmirJusufi : I saw that also but that really could mean after a year! I miss watching ZRH livestream webcam. Will have webcam better position in Dock E than B? Fa
220 ZRH : Yes, I think. There you can see all docked wide-bodies at E and a lot of traffic on r/w 10/28 and 16/34. Disadvantage: no view on the hangars of SRTe
221 LXA340 : When will the construction work at Dock B begin?
222 SandroZRH : It has started already.
223 LXA340 : Oh ok...thanks. On another note, in the March issue of the SWISS Magazine LX has aleady added the A330-300 on it's fleet page. For the aircraft graph
224 Post contains links and images Viasa : Swiss European Air Lines get the Bombardier CSeries. Media release (german): http://www.swiss.com/web/DE/about_sw...ss_releases/Pages/pr_20090311.aspx
225 Post contains links Ka : And here is - what I believe is - the first pic of LX first new A333 (MSN1000): http://www.flickr.com/photos/a380spotter/3345297228/ KA.
226 Knightsofmalta : Christ, that means they're keeping the RJ100s until 2014. I would have thought they'd be falling apart already by then!
227 Ka : Keep in mind that the average age of LX´ ARJ-fleet is younger than their A32x-fleet... And it has been clear that LX would operate the ARJs until mi
228 RJ100 : Ryanair will fly twice weekly between Basel and Cagliari as per April 29 with the following schedule: FR4842, CAG-BSL, 0630-0815 FR4843, BSL-CAG, 0840
229 Ka : Swiss confirmed twice daily flights between Zurich and Oslo with A319 starting June 19: LX1210 ZRH-OSL 07:05-09:20 LX1211 OSL-ZRH 09:50-12:10 LX1216 Z
230 AntonovA330 : Oh man, there's always someone faster than me spreading the news Well, after all it's a.net Finally! I was looking for it! The SWISS sign on the engi
231 FatmirJusufi : Ka is right. BTW Avro100s are doing a great job for domestic and short hops. LX livery looks awesome on Bombardier CSeries Jet. Fatmir
232 ZRH : Very interesting. After all the strong rumors that SWISS gets the E 190/195, it is now clear that it will be the C-Series. I assume that they will be
233 SandroZRH : What a sweet looking bird. They're talking about replacing the Avros one by one (20 aircraft) plus using the additional 10 aircraft for expansion. If
234 ZRH : On the contrary, go on and start it!
235 Post contains links ZRH : For yor information: DALCE started a new "Swiss Aviation Thread": Swiss Aviation Thread 20
236 ZRH : Now you are hehehe.... No, thanks for starting it. I suggest stop posting here and continue in the new threads (Swiss Aviation Thread 20 and Sandro's
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