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1985 UTA 747 Cockpit Fire Question

Khobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3660 times:

I saw on the front page this photo:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UTA---Union/Boeing-747-3B3/1453106/M/

I then came across this pic:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Boeing-747-3B3/0995740/L/

It kinda looks like the plane was "repaired" to some extent after being w/o. Is this the case and, if so, is this common?

[Edited 2008-12-23 13:22:50]

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Viasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1813 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

I've also see the same pictures and I had also the same question.

Whey they repair the F-GDUA in some parts?

When I'm right the plane burned during a cleaning process.

TheCheese From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3559 times:

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From that photo its hard to tell, but the repairs might only be tarps to keep the rain out of the structure, or even sheetmetal tacked on for the same reason.

You can see that they covered over a number of windows on the main deck with whatever it is that they used to patch the holes.

Malaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

But why didnt the blue juice stop the cigarette from the cleaner? Confused

Maybe it had been emptied then (the 743 had blue juice or did it have vacuum toilets?)

And by the way we now have designated smoking areas for staff, so nobody is smoking while cleaning a plane nowadays.

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NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9601 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

What happened to the negligent person who caused this?
This was the newest 747 ever lost, just having been delivered, worth back then, how much, 150 million dollars?

Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7335 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

Was it newer than the CA 747 that skidded of the runway at HKG? That aircraft was only a few months old when it happened I believe. The UTA 747 pictured here was over 2 years old.

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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21460 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 5):
Was it newer than the CA 747 that skidded of the runway at HKG? That aircraft was only a few months old when it happened I believe. The UTA 747 pictured here was over 2 years old.

The CI (not CA) 744 was 5 months old.

FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7312 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3056 times:

F-GDUA was not repaired after this incident and never flew again. It was dismantled. Some parts were re-used by UTA maintenance for the other B747 in service and other
parts of the fuselage were used as instructional airframe in the Institut Amaury de la Grange.

Khobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3050 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 7):
F-GDUA was not repaired after this incident and never flew again. It was dismantled. Some parts were re-used by UTA maintenance for the other B747 in service and other
parts of the fuselage were used as instructional airframe in the Institut Amaury de la Grange.

Thanks for the info.

I didn't mean "repaired to airworthy condition" - the photo in question gives the impression that the burned metal was replaced. Whether it is tarp or some plain sheet metal I don't know - it just looked like someone went to some trouble after the plane was w/o.

Gearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

What was the cause for the cockpit fire?

I have no memory of this place.

JetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

It appears it recived some sort of silver paint or something,look at the windows on the upper
deck the last several are barely visable like they have been painted

i can see for 80 miles

Malaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2137 times:

Quoting Gearup (Reply 9):
What was the cause for the cockpit fire?

They beleive a Cabin cleaner who was smoking caused the fire when he threw a lit cigarette into the toilet.

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FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7312 posts, RR: 61
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2024 times:

Quoting Gearup (Reply 9):
What was the cause for the cockpit fire?

It was not a cockpit fire.

The fire started in the middle of the PAX cabin, on the main deck. Probably in the Toilets near the Doors 3.

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