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1985 UTA 747 Cockpit Fire Question  
User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

I saw on the front page this photo:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UTA---Union/Boeing-747-3B3/1453106/M/

I then came across this pic:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Boeing-747-3B3/0995740/L/

It kinda looks like the plane was "repaired" to some extent after being w/o. Is this the case and, if so, is this common?

[Edited 2008-12-23 13:22:50]

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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1873 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

I've also see the same pictures and I had also the same question.

Whey they repair the F-GDUA in some parts?

When I'm right the plane burned during a cleaning process.


User currently offlineTheCheese From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4384 times:
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From that photo its hard to tell, but the repairs might only be tarps to keep the rain out of the structure, or even sheetmetal tacked on for the same reason.

You can see that they covered over a number of windows on the main deck with whatever it is that they used to patch the holes.


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

But why didnt the blue juice stop the cigarette from the cleaner?  Confused

Maybe it had been emptied then (the 743 had blue juice or did it have vacuum toilets?)

And by the way we now have designated smoking areas for staff, so nobody is smoking while cleaning a plane nowadays.



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10677 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4233 times:

What happened to the negligent person who caused this?
This was the newest 747 ever lost, just having been delivered, worth back then, how much, 150 million dollars?


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7407 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4129 times:
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Was it newer than the CA 747 that skidded of the runway at HKG? That aircraft was only a few months old when it happened I believe. The UTA 747 pictured here was over 2 years old.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4099 times:



Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 5):
Was it newer than the CA 747 that skidded of the runway at HKG? That aircraft was only a few months old when it happened I believe. The UTA 747 pictured here was over 2 years old.

The CI (not CA) 744 was 5 months old.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7409 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

F-GDUA was not repaired after this incident and never flew again. It was dismantled. Some parts were re-used by UTA maintenance for the other B747 in service and other
parts of the fuselage were used as instructional airframe in the Institut Amaury de la Grange.


User currently offlineKhobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 3875 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 7):
F-GDUA was not repaired after this incident and never flew again. It was dismantled. Some parts were re-used by UTA maintenance for the other B747 in service and other
parts of the fuselage were used as instructional airframe in the Institut Amaury de la Grange.

Thanks for the info.

I didn't mean "repaired to airworthy condition" - the photo in question gives the impression that the burned metal was replaced. Whether it is tarp or some plain sheet metal I don't know - it just looked like someone went to some trouble after the plane was w/o.


User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

What was the cause for the cockpit fire?


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User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1430 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 2966 times:

It appears it recived some sort of silver paint or something,look at the windows on the upper
deck the last several are barely visable like they have been painted



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 2962 times:



Quoting Gearup (Reply 9):
What was the cause for the cockpit fire?

They beleive a Cabin cleaner who was smoking caused the fire when he threw a lit cigarette into the toilet.



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7409 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2849 times:



Quoting Gearup (Reply 9):
What was the cause for the cockpit fire?

It was not a cockpit fire.

The fire started in the middle of the PAX cabin, on the main deck. Probably in the Toilets near the Doors 3.


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