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Airtran Aircraft Off Runway In Moline  
User currently offlineVulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 518 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11538 times:

CNN is reporting that an Airtran Airways plane skided off the runway in Moline/Quad Cities. Does anyone know anything about this. CNN doesn't have any details.

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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3522 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11549 times:

Yeah and in fact it's buried about halfway down in a story about de-icing fumes getting into an Alaska Airlines plane. It's literally an "oh, by the way" type of thing... "meanwhile, an Airtran plane is off the runway..." Uh, guys... were you not paying attention last week? An airplane off the runway is a big enough deal to have its own story.

[Edited 2008-12-24 11:10:07]


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User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11456 times:



Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 1):
Uh, guys... were you not paying attention last week? An airplane off the runway is a big enough deal to have its own story.

From that CNN.com story:

Quote:
Meanwhile in Moline, Illinois, an AirTran Airways jet skidded off the runway at Quad City International Airport, CNN affiliate WQAD-TV reported.

Witnesses said passengers were being evacuated to buses, and there appeared to be no injuries, according to WQAD. The airport was closed to all traffic after the accident, the station said.

.

Doesn't sound like it's anywhere close to the CO incident at DEN last week. I'm sure if they reported this as a major story, we would get 48 people posting here about how the media sensationalizes every little aviation incident.



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3376 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11431 times:



Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 1):
Uh, guys... were you not paying attention last week? An airplane off the runway is a big enough deal to have its own story.

99 times out 100, it's not nearly as serious as the CO incident as DIA.



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User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11392 times:

Holy crap! I'll have to get out to the airport and check this out. Do you know what day it happened? I have Tuesday through Thursday off this week, and Monday was pretty nice here so I don't think it happened then. I'll see if I can get out there and take some pics if it's still there.

User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11338 times:

FL is not having a good week.

http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/a...reliminary_data/media/D_1224_N.txt

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User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11261 times:



Quoting Acey559 (Reply 4):
I'll have to get out to the airport and check this out. Do you know what day it happened?

It happened this morning (Wednesday) around 11am local time.


From WQAD-TV

Quote:
QCIA runways back open; flights returning to normal

Posted: Dec 24, 2008 12:30 PM
Updated: Dec 24, 2008 01:58 PM

By Jason Fechner

QUAD CITIES -- An inbound Airtran flight skidded off the runway at the Quad City International Airport Wednesday at around 11:00 a.m., forcing officials to shut down the airport's runways.

Witnesses tell Newschannel 8 that the flight from Orlando slid softly into the grass and was located just off the runway when first responders arrived. While there were no injuries, crews evacuated the plane by boarding passengers onto buses.

While runways were shut down for roughly an hour, as of 12:45 p.m., flights were returning back to normal, and a flight diverted to Des Moines was on its way back to Moline.




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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3236 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 10864 times:

Does anyone know the registration number?

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10805 times:



Quoting Moose135 (Reply 2):
I'm sure if they reported this as a major story, we would get 48 people posting here about how the media sensationalizes every little aviation incident.

Haha, funny you should say that, because look what the media did shortly thereafter:

Quoting Moose135 (Reply 6):
crews evacuated the plane by boarding passengers onto buses.

EVACUATED? By BUS!?!?
I'm trying to imagine how flight attendant yells would sound in this type of "evacuation".... Something like, "Leave Everything! Move to the exits! Jump, Slide! Get on the Bus! Take a seat! Wait for the rest of us!"

 Yeah sure


User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2245 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10761 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 8):
EVACUATED? By BUS!?!?
I'm trying to imagine how flight attendant yells would sound in this type of "evacuation".... Something like, "Leave Everything! Move to the exits! Jump, Slide! Get on the Bus! Take a seat! Wait for the rest of us!"

evacuate (intransitive verb) 1: to withdraw from a place in an organized way especially for protection.

 Big grin



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User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8674 times:



Quoting 777STL (Reply 3):
99 times out 100, it's not nearly as serious as the CO incident as DIA.

I've seen the news companies make bigger deals about a simple missed approach than they did about the CO incident. It's just dumb.

Cheers
Carson



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8367 times:
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Quoting Spacecadet (Reply 1):
An airplane off the runway is a big enough deal to have its own story.

Not if there aren't any serious injuries or deaths, it isn't.

Seems that if there's no carnage and no potential to interview people minutes after they learn they've lost a loved one, there's no interest from the media.

2H4



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User currently offline727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 793 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8355 times:

Not to be sour grapes, but I can't say that I am surprised. I flew for them for a short time in 2007 and noticed a definite mentality amongst
the Captains to taxi fast without an airport diagram out and to just
start taxiing without calling for an after start checklist. I didn't
fly with that many guys before I left the company, but I would say that
this was a certain trend. I would respond with quickly calling for taxi
clearance and running through an after start checklist. After becoming
a bit p/o'd at this I finally asked one of the Captains why so many FL
Captains were doing this. He told me that in Captain Leadership class
the VP of Flight Ops instructed them all to taxi quickly to save time
and increase efficiency for the airline. He cited that taxi speed in
the AIM is just a recommendation and not actually mandated.

After
learning of this I told the Captain that I didn't care what the VP said
I was not comfortable with taxiing this fast, as fast asWN used to taxi
or faster. I explained to him that I could not do my job of keeping up
and running flows and checklists at his pace. He said tough that I just
needed to deal with it and work faster. Knowing that I didn't really
have a union to back me up I just sucked it up and made sure I was well
aware of where I was while he was off to the races and would get to the
checklist when I got to it. Not a good situation.

The reason I
bring this all up is that there seems to be a safety culture that leads
to these types of events, at all airlines. I am not saying that the
events this week were directly attributed to fast taxiing, the weather
has been horrible and not great for taxiing airplanes, but scheduled 25
minute turns and making up time with taxi speed are a recipe for
airplanes stuck in the mud or worse, runway incursions or collisions.

727forever



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User currently offlineCptspeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6957 times:



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 10):
I've seen the news companies make bigger deals about a simple missed approach than they did about the CO incident.

No kidding...can't remember whether it was posted on here or not, but I saw a story on TV talking about how dangerous a go-around is. They neglected to mention the alternative of LANDING ON ANOTHER AIRPLANE.



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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7345 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6583 times:



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 10):
I've seen the news companies make bigger deals about a simple missed approach than they did about the CO incident. It's just dumb.

In the business it is called a "slow news day"

When not much is going on the new media has a lot of people sitting around on their rear ends being paid a lot of money. So any story which might have elements of emotion, fear, concern, etc - not matter how factually insignificant - gets a lot of resources and a lot of air time / space.

But on a day like last Saturday when the new staffs are short handed due to the weekend and holiday season, when the on duty staff is fully committed to stories like the weather, then only something with major impact gets reported. Denver thankfully turned out to be relatively minor since everyone survived. Losing an aircraft hull has no significance to the new media.

Also is the importance of visuals to the broadcast media. The Denver incident had terrible visuals that night, no good pictures or video at all.

Even worse than the CO at Denver, look how much coverage the A320 crash off France received recently - even less than Denver and there were 5 people lost in that crash.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6535 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 8):
EVACUATED? By BUS!?!?
I'm trying to imagine how flight attendant yells would sound in this type of "evacuation".... Something like, "Leave Everything! Move to the exits! Jump, Slide! Get on the Bus! Take a seat! Wait for the rest of us!"

Just like you said.... Just because the plane went off the runway does not mean it was a serious event that required emergency evacuation. The assessed the situation and kept the passengers on-board...and kept them warm, called for a bus. When the bus arrived..and maybe with a air stair truck they walked off and right onto a warm bus.



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User currently offlineKstatepilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6357 times:

I flew to MLI a few days ago, and they only had the middle 80 feet of runway 9/27 cleared off, with the rest of it in packed snow/ice. Maybe they landed a little off centerline?

User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6275 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 15):
Just because the plane went off the runway does not mean it was a serious event that required emergency evacuation.

In Journalism school part of the course curriculum is Hype 301. The term "De-planing" is not as catchy as "Evacuation". They probably twist "blowing snow" into "billowing smoke" then claim to have attended college in the south excusing themselves for not knowing the difference.

Plain and simple "Journalist" have become the modern day used car salesmen. Spineless bastards who sell you a lemon with factious reporting and when one attempt to hold them accountable they cower behind the first amendment thus cheapening the meaning of the 1st Amendment where many journalist throughout the World would welcome the opportunity to report pertinent stories protected under this right. Not some frick'n airplane off the runway.


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4809 times:



Quoting Kstatepilot (Reply 16):

It's been crazy here lately. Ever since we got that ice storm last Thursday night, the whole airport has been covered. We've had quite a few people get injured at work due to falling on the ice, etc. Maintenance usually does a pretty good job of keeping the runways and taxiways clear, but since we aren't big enough to use acetates and the like, and since salt is out of the question, it's been difficult keeping up with everything. Hopefully tomorrow will be better since it's supposed to be 47 here, but I'm not looking forward to all that melted ice turning back into ice...


User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4268 times:



Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 17):
then claim to have attended college in the south excusing themselves for not knowing the difference.

A hem!!!!!!!!!!!! Just what is that suppose to me??????


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