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SFO Opens Bridge Connecting Intl. And UA Terminals  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6287 times:

This morning SFO opened a new connector bridge linking United's Terminal 3 to the international terminal.

Passengers connecting from domestic to international flights will no longer need to exit the domestic terminal and clear security before proceeding to their new gates.

The connector begins next to Gate 75 in Terminal 3 and exits next to the United Red Carpet Club at the International terminal.

A definite time savings for passengers.  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31263 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6277 times:
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That is fantastic news.

I also imagine domestic arrivals at the International terminal will be able to use this, as well? When this happens, I hate having to re-clear on the domestic end for my connection.


User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6224 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):

I also imagine domestic arrivals at the International terminal will be able to use this, as well? When this happens, I hate having to re-clear on the domestic end for my connection.

No, as the TSA can't be sure whether or not arriving pax from other countries have been screened to US standards. Rescreening arriving pax is standard practice for most countries, actually.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6224 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
I also imagine domestic arrivals at the International terminal will be able to use this, as well?

Yes they will.

Quoting Ryu2 (Reply 2):
other countries

Stitch was asking about domestic arrivals at the International terminal



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21804 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

Great news for SFO. With this final piece in place, I can't think of any reason (other than cost) why somone would choose LAX over SFO to connect from domestic to international if they had the choice.

Quoting Ryu2 (Reply 2):
the TSA can't be sure whether or not arriving pax from other countries have been screened to US standards.

The ironic thing is, many arriving pax from other countries have been screened, not only to US standards, but above and beyond them.

-Mir



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User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1541 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6084 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 4):
Great news for SFO. With this final piece in place, I can't think of any reason (other than cost) why somone would choose LAX over SFO to connect from domestic to international if they had the choice.

I can think of one big reason to use LAX rather then SFO. FLOW CONTROL!


User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6038 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
I also imagine domestic arrivals at the International terminal will be able to use this, as well?



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Yes they will.

No, actually, the only domestic arrivals in the International Terminal are VX and B6, and those are on the A concourse, not the G concourse. So, no, domestic arrivals can't use the corridor. The corridor is designed for passengers arriving in F to transfer to G without having to re-clear security.

[Edited 2008-12-24 14:41:24]

[Edited 2008-12-24 14:41:41]


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User currently offlineUA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1733 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5995 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Passengers connecting from domestic to international flights will no longer need to exit the domestic terminal and clear security before proceeding to their new gates.

Or rely on the shuttle bus service.

Quoting Anonms (Reply 6):
No, actually, the only domestic arrivals in the International Terminal are VX and B6, and those are on the A concourse, not the G concourse. So, no, domestic arrivals can't use the corridor. The corridor is designed for passengers arriving in F to transfer to G without having to re-clear security.


NO, actually UA occasionally sends domestic arrivals over into Concourse G, particularly in the evening. After 2 pm, the terminal is virtually empty and most gates are open, unlike Concourse F.

[Edited 2008-12-24 14:51:15]

[Edited 2008-12-24 14:52:32]

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5982 times:



Quoting Anonms (Reply 6):
No, actually, the only domestic arrivals in the International Terminal are VX and B6, and those are on the A concourse, not the G concourse. So, no, domestic arrivals can't use the corridor.

United uses international G gates on a regular basis for domestic flights - particularly for widebodies, or TED aircraft that are continuing onto international destinations.

For example today with a reduced schedule has:
UA885 ORD-SFO gate 100
UA9789 SEA-SFO gate 96
UA1425 LAS-SFO gate 96



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5982 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Passengers connecting from domestic to international flights will no longer need to exit the domestic terminal and clear security before proceeding to their new gates.

While I absolutely agree that this bridge is a major, major benefit, there has always been a Star Alliance shuttle that departs from the food court on a very regular schedule.

Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 5):
I can think of one big reason to use LAX rather then SFO. FLOW CONTROL!

I assure you, the "flow control" of the TBIT as a whole and its FIS in particular makes SFO just a dream.

NS


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5944 times:



Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 7):
Or rely on the shuttle bus service.



Quoting Gigneil (Reply 9):
there has always been a Star Alliance shuttle that departs from the food court on a very regular schedule.

Shuttle is discontinued.



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User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5775 times:



Quoting Gigneil (Reply 9):
I assure you, the "flow control" of the TBIT as a whole and its FIS in particular makes SFO just a dream.

I think he meant ATC flow control, ie; ground delay programs that plague SFO, and
not how people "flow" through the terminal.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21804 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5735 times:



Quoting HikesWithEyes (Reply 11):
I think he meant ATC flow control, ie; ground delay programs that plague SFO, and
not how people "flow" through the terminal.

And Gigneil meant that even with the ATC delays that SFO can take, the mess that is the TBIT makes going through SFO worth it.

I haven't seen SFO taking many big GDPs of late.

-Mir



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User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5709 times:



Quoting Ryu2 (Reply 2):
No, as the TSA can't be sure whether or not arriving pax from other countries have been screened to US standards. Rescreening arriving pax is standard practice for most countries, actually.

I can't see why UA domestic passengers arriving in the international terminal would not be able to use this new bridge. Arriving international passengers would arrive in the international arrivals hall ie immigration etc and then clear security again. Domestic passengers would arrive on the departures level.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5645 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
I haven't seen SFO taking many big GDPs of late.

You're kidding right? They've had one nearly every day the last two weeks or so.

Current one has an arrival rate of merely only 27 planes/hr with arrival delays ranging between 98-235 minutes all the while even with airlines operating reduced holiday schedules this evening.


ATCSCC ADVZY 007 SFO/ZOA 12/25/2008 CDM GROUND DELAY PROGRAM
CTL ELEMENT: SFO
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 0132Z
DELAY ASSIGNMENT MODE: DAS
ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 25/0126Z - 25/0559Z
CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 24/1700Z - 25/0559Z
PROGRAM RATE: 27
FLT INCL: ALL CONTIGUOUS US DEP
DEP SCOPE: (ALL+CZV_AP) ZAB ZSE ZFW ZKC ZME ZTL ZOA ZLC ZLA ZAU ZMP
ZDV ZID ZMA ZHU ZJX ZBW ZOB ZDC ZNY
ADDITIONAL DEP FACILITIES INCLUDED:
EXEMPT DEP FACILITIES: PDX
CANADIAN DEP ARPTS INCLUDED: CYEG CYVR CYYC
DELAY ASSIGNMENT TABLE APPLIES TO: ZOA
MAXIMUM DELAY: 235
AVERAGE DELAY: 98
IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / WIND
COMMENTS: SFO LANDING RWY 79L/R, DEPARTING RWY 01L/R
250133-250659
08/12/25 01:33 FSB.lxstn03c 703-925-5322



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5596 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
This morning SFO opened a new connector bridge linking United's Terminal 3 to the international terminal.



Quoting Mir (Reply 4):
Great news for SFO. With this final piece in place, I can't think of any reason (other than cost) why somone would choose LAX over SFO to connect from domestic to international if they had the choice.

This is great for AA as well as both UA/AA are interconnected. That being said, I'm a OneWorld flyer so it doesn't really do me too much good.. Sad



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User currently offlineRampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1541 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5538 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
I haven't seen SFO taking many big GDPs of late.

Tell that to my co-workers in CS. Our 10am PDX-SFO is delayed everyday a minimum 45 minutes. Our CS agents have grown gray hair because of this daily event. We get most of our Asian destination transfers on this flight.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

Hey don't get me wrong, SFO takes some big problems out on the field.... I just believe that the facilities more than make up for them. Just my opinion here.

NS


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5444 times:



Quoting Gigneil (Reply 18):
I just believe that the facilities more than make up for them. Just my opinion here.

Great, hope you enjoy the facilities waiting on your delayed flights.  Yeah sure

Per the DOT, SFO has one of the nations worst on-time performance records.

http://www.bts.gov/programs/airline_..._tables/2008_10/html/table_06.html
Year-to-date -- #26 out of the nations largest 32 airports



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5356 times:

I live in Chicago... my patience knows no bounds when it comes to flying.  Smile

NS


User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5248 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15):
That being said, I'm a OneWorld flyer so it doesn't really do me too much good..

EVA flies into the G-Terminal and they code share with AA. But, most of the OW carriers leave from the A-Terminal.

It's blowing pretty hard out there tonight and the ATC delays are significant. But, so is the same in ORD, SEA and LAS over the past few days.



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User currently offlineAnonms From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5209 times:



Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 7):
NO, actually UA occasionally sends domestic arrivals over into Concourse G, particularly in the evening. After 2 pm, the terminal is virtually empty and most gates are open, unlike Concourse F.

Ah, I actually wasn't aware that UA used G for some domestic arrivals. I don't really venture to that side of the terminal often, either. Silly me.  Sad



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User currently offlineUA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1733 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5149 times:



Quoting Anonms (Reply 22):
Ah, I actually wasn't aware that UA used G for some domestic arrivals. I don't really venture to that side of the terminal often, either. Silly me. Sad

No worries. It doesn't happen that often, usually if there are alot of widebodies over at F. Gates 83, 85, and 87 can handle up to a 767, while 80, 82, 84, 86 can handle a 777 or 747. Typically, during the winter peak when Hawaii flights as well as domestic hub flights become widebodies and all arrive at around the same time, a 777 with no gate space might get sent to the G concourse.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4397 times:



Quoting Legacyins (Reply 21):
It's blowing pretty hard out there tonight and the ATC delays are significant. But, so is the same in ORD, SEA and LAS over the past few days.

I'll take SFO and its delays over ORD (or SEA) any day of the week.. bigthumbsup 

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 21):
EVA flies into the G-Terminal and they code share with AA. But, most of the OW carriers leave from the A-Terminal.

That's interesting...I'm surprised BR flies out of G-Terminal while the rest fly out of the other terminal.



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User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 942 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4089 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 23):
I'm surprised BR flies out of G-Terminal while the rest fly out of the other terminal.

Possibly because BR is only a code share and not a One World partner with AA?



Keeping the "civil" in civil aviation...
25 Anonms : I thought it was for timing reasons since their red eye flights are only 5 minutes before or after (forgot which) CI's flights; imagine the congestio
26 Navymmw : Wish this was open back in April so then I would of been able to keep my Chinese sprite, I know its not a big deal since its just soda but it was impo
27 Jacobin777 : Does sound logical. . That being said, it does seem as if there is still even gate space at that time, even with CX there as well.
28 Gigneil : Only works one way bud, you would have gone through security after clearing customs over in G. NS
29 FlyboyOz : I prefer to take a shuttle bus from the UA terminal to the international terminal. It was cool to ride on the SFO's apron and taxiways.
30 Atomsareenough : international arrivals dump straight into FIS, and domestic arrivals can exit directly into the boarding area.
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