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The Most Profitable Short Hauls In The World?  
User currently offlineWolfy From Taiwan, joined Mar 2001, 337 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2377 times:

What are the most profitable short haul routes with the highest capacity of demand in the world? I think it is HKG-TPE, that's what they called the "GOLDEN ROUTE". Are there any others? I mean less 500 or 600 miles routes, what about YUL-YYZ, CDG-LHR?  Smile

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User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2282 times:

BOS-LGA-DCA

User currently offlineCVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2263 times:

I would guess any domestic Japanese route.

User currently offlineILoVeA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2257 times:

Frankfurt to Munich is huge. about a flight every 20, minutes

User currently offlineWolfy From Taiwan, joined Mar 2001, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2243 times:

Yeah, I guess Tokyo to Osaka is a busy route too! :P

User currently offlineStarAlliance From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2240 times:

I think Sapporo to Tokyo will be more profitable. Although the frequency of flights are lower than the Osaka-Tokyo route, but the airlines (JAL,ANA,AirDo,JAS) usually use the B744(that can sit about 500 passengers) and B777 to serve the Sapporo-Tokyo route. So, they are more profitable.

User currently offlineMaxPowers From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2227 times:

New York City to Flordia?

DOH
Max Powers


User currently offlineTito From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 125 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2219 times:

DEN-ASE, ASE-DEN although only 126 miles are United's second highest yield routes in their ENTIRE system. (High income clientel + high load factor)





User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2208 times:

Houston to Dallas.
CO has tons of IAH-DFW flights, and American has plenty of DFW-IAH flights. WN flies IAH-DAL, HOU-DAL, CoEx flies IAH-DAL, ASA flies IAH-DAL and HOU-DAL. Too many daily frequencies to count.

I amagine that a full 764 on the ATL-MCO flight is profitable.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2188 times:

Atlanta, GA to Gulfport/Biloxi MS. Both airlines I have worked for (AirTran and ASA) both fly this route and have very very high load factors (close to 95%). Everybody likes to gamble down on the Gulf Coast. Another profitable shorthaul is Atlanta to Orlando. Between AirTran and Delta, there's 27 flights a day to Orlando.

User currently offlineONT 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2182 times:

How about OGG-HNL? Aloha has about 31 roundtrips a day and Hawaiian has 30. In addition United, Delta, Northwest and Pacific Wings flies this route. (I'm not sure on the frequency of those)


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User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2171 times:

Dallas to Houston is a biggie......perenially ranked in top6 or 7 markets in the country in terms of passengers boarded.....241 miles DAL-HOU. WN has 33 trips a day DAL-HOU and 7 DAL-IAH.

The real prize is probably from the Los Angeles area to the San Francisco/Oakland.....not even looking at San Jose.....WN has 61 trips a day across there in each direction (24 LAX-OAK, 15 BUR-OAK, 1e ONT-OAK, and 8 SNA-OAK).


User currently offlineAstrojet From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 565 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

In Spain is what they call "air bridge" from Madrid to Barcelona.

User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

LAX-SFO, BUR-SFO, LAX-SJC, ONT-SJC, ONT-SFO, BUR-OAK, LAX-OAK and SNA-SFO are high traffic in California.

Big777jet


How about LGA-DCA and DFW/DAL-IAH/HOU?




User currently offlineCOexERJ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

Dallas-Houston is very profitable, however with WN, walk-up fares are pretty low (less than $100 each way) while advance purchase fares tend to be around $100 round trip. Consider NYC-BOS (similar distance) walk up fares are much, much higher (right around $200 each way, advance purchase fares $200 round trip). So I guess I'd have to agree with Watewate on this one.

Peace,
COexERJ


User currently offlineWolfy From Taiwan, joined Mar 2001, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Any other international short hauls? I think it is very easy to have high capacity in domestic short hauls, but for international flts, there are not a lot!  Smile
Thx everyone for da info!  Smile


User currently offlineNUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

London airports to AMS have about 56 flights a day each way including 757 and 767 service. This number is rapidly increasing with new flights by Easyjet. I would say any European destination to London are very profitable. And lots of transfer pax. God only knows how many flights go between London and Paris in a given day.


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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24899 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

The BA "Super-shuttle" from LHR to MAN,EDI,GLA,BFS. I am sure those routes are profitable. Also BA routes to CDG,AMS,BRU I would imagine are profitable


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User currently offlineTullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2118 times:

Before Impulse came on the scene, MEL-SYD was almost a licence to print money for QF and AN. Even now they both have services at least every half hour, generally utilising 767s. It is still hugely profitable with many of the pax in peak times being full fare.


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User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

I would think the London to Zurich and London to Frankfurt flights would be highly profitable also, especially in biz classes.


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User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 730 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

Although many v. busy routes have been cited, a lot of these are aggresively priced, cutting the profit margin - I'd suggest looking at some of the captive regional routes for high profit - eg. flights between any two UK regional airports. Usually only BA regional flying the route, usually full, exhorbitant fares!

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlineBostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

I would guess it would have to be the BOS-LGA-DCA shuttles. BOS-LGA is 191 miles for $202. It's kind of like a license to print money.

User currently offlineWolfy From Taiwan, joined Mar 2001, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

A friend of mine who is a travel agent just told me that SIN-KUL is another money maker as lotta Biz travelers fly this route just like taking taxi!
By the way a cheap, discounted ticket bought from the travel agent with group rate from TPE to HKG costs approx USD$300-400 for only an hour flt! +_+!


User currently offlineWN boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

Ckw is correct: the question is the most profitable route, not the route that earns the most gross income. If I had to guess, I would say that it would be something flown either by United Express into DEN or Comair into ATL. Both would be tremendously profitable (per available seat mile) because of the high fares coupled with the low labor costs.

User currently offlineGuerosinfe From Brazil, joined Mar 2001, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

You may don't know but Rio De Janeiro-São Paulo is real busy
SDU-CGH
every 20 minutes and every 12 minutes in the peak hour.


25 Wolfy : Interesting point! Thank you Colin! ^_^ Regards, Wolfy
26 EIPremier : Alaska has a monopoly on many routes within Alaska and betwen Alaska and the lower 48. The fares aren't exactly exorbitant, but they do reflect the la
27 Wolfy : EIPremier, yeah I agree and I don't even think there is any flt operated from Canadian cities to Anchorage except the Charter Canada 3000 and a "TECHN
28 Ckw : Consider Southampton and Leeds - about a one hour flight on a BAe Jetstream - price @£300 or @$450 I could fly to any major US city for that! Cheers,
29 Post contains images Wolfy : Yeah I think most of the regional routes where they use small or tiny aircrafts are expensive, such as some flts within Northern Quebec or Northern Ca
30 Post contains images MrFord : I know what you'ra talking about Wolfy, I live in Abitibi and that's almost 450$ to go to Montreal on a little Dash-8 ! For a 1-hour flight, that's th
31 Taliban : Karachi- Lahore, Lahore- Islamabad, Dubai- Karachi, Toronto-New York, Kabul- Peshawar.
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