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Where Is The First Built Boeing 767?  
User currently offlineBoeingdotcom From Singapore, joined Nov 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11360 times:

Heya, its a mystery that the first built Boeing 767 whereabout. I checked on the photo index and it was stored at VCV. I heard from my friend which he got it from an unknown source that that plane may have been scrapped. So why didn't Boeing honour its achievement of Boeing 767/757 and place the first built plane on the museum? Isn't that significant to them? Oh, btw, if its still stored, anyone has any photos of it or last time you saw the plane?


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12323 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11313 times:

Here it is, stored at VCV. It is shown as owned by the US Army, but I'm not sure how accurate that is. I thought it was still owned by Boeing and the various extensions and additions are for tests.

I'm sure it can be reactivated if needs be:


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Photo © Miguel Snoep



This is a three year old photo, but the fact that there are no more recent photos would suggest it's still there.


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10979 times:
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Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):

That's a great photo and I would love to know some history about this testbed for the US Army. Seems like a VERY interesting aircraft to say the least.

I am with the OP though, I would love to see Boeing preserve the aircraft in some way that would benefit the public. But having said that, the first 747 seems like a handful as it is just by looking at it. Plus, where would they put this airplane if it was deemed worthy to save for public viewing?



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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9966 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10932 times:

I'm sure they could find some space at the Museum of Flight.


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User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10839 times:

Maybe number 2 might be a better choice. this doesnt even look like a 767 now they have added that electronic bubble on top. It almost looks like one of those planes that haul the a-380 parts or the 787 parts. It would not be a good choice for the museum as it would be to confuseing for the average joe looking at a 767.Just looking at the engines this thing seems photoshopped or some cannabalized heap.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29689 posts, RR: 84
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10756 times:
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It used to be parked at Boeing Field down at the "military end" in the South (where the AWACS and 757/F-22 testbed are) before it went to VCV.

The Airborne Surveillance Test Bed (AST) was used to monitor US ICBM tests.

You can read more about it here.


User currently onlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10728 times:



Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 4):
Just looking at the engines this thing seems photoshopped or some cannabalized heap.

Or none of the above. The engines have been removed, that's all.



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10574 times:



Quoting Boeingdotcom (Thread starter):
So why didn't Boeing honour its achievement of Boeing 767/757 and place the first built plane on the museum?

The Museum Of Flight doesn't belong to Boeing. They work closely, obviously, but the museum is a whole separate entity. If Boeing made it available to the museum *and* the museum wanted it, I'm sure they'd take it, but Boeing has no power to force the museum to take it.

Tom.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 10460 times:
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Boeing did offer the MOF this plane, but there was no room for it and they had to decline.

User currently offlineQB737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6143 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
ere it is, stored at VCV. It is shown as owned by the US Army, but I'm not sure how accurate that is. I thought it was still owned by Boeing and the various extensions and additions are for tests.

I'm sure it can be reactivated if needs be:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Miguel Snoep



This is a three year old photo, but the fact that there are no more recent photos would suggest it's still there.

Nor sure you have the correct frame here, according to www.airlinerlist.com, the MSN of the first frame is 21862.


User currently offlineBoeingdotcom From Singapore, joined Nov 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

It says Broken up. Aw...  Sad sad news indeed.


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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5980 times:

Photo few months ago: Date : 2008-09-06

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/222310.html


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5608 times:
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Quoting Keesje (Reply 11):
Photo few months ago: Date : 2008-09-06

WOW! Thanks for the link Keesje. Looks odd with that gash in the "hump".

Quoting QB737 (Reply 9):

The one linked here in this thread is clearly the first because it carries decals of all the airlines that ordered it it would appear.



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User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4966 times:

When was this 767 first flown and with which airline?


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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4861 times:



Quoting Danfearn77 (Reply 13):
When was this 767 first flown and with which airline?

First flight was Sept 26, 1981. Line number 1 was never delivered to an airline.

The first 767 to go to an airline was line number 9, which went to United in August of 1982. I assume that was the first one to go fly with an airline, although United took the first six deliveries so I'm not positive about which one was first into service.

Tom.


User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4826 times:



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 14):

Thanks for that Tom, greatly appreciated. If it wasnt the first it would have been up there as one of the first!



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User currently offlineVhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4705 times:

Airlinerslist states that this aircraft was permanently wfu 16APR2007 so I doubt this aircraft is going anywere if they want to preserve an early 762 Line Numbers 2-5 Ex UA are stored in VCV I assume these can be restored to fly to a museum.Line Number 6 Ex DL is Active but is now a freighter with ABX. Line Number 7 Ex UA is Active with Vision Airlines.

Quoting QB737 (Reply 9):

Nor sure you have the correct frame here, according to www.airlinerlist.com, the MSN of the first frame is 21862.

Boeings MSN's arn't always sequential. The line number which proceeds the MSN is ordered in the order they left the production line. in this case the testbed aircraft MSN is 22233 but has a line number of 1. In fact there are 34 767 frames with lower MSN's then the prototype. I believe the MSN is assigned when the customer orders the aircraft and because no one ordered the prototype boeing just slotted it a random MSN.




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User currently offlineQB737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

My bad!

I realised that the line numbers weren't in order on that list.


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