Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6532 times:
My daughter is flying on Saturday 12/27/08 on UA flt 958.
Can you tell me the N number or the aircraft scheduled??
Flyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 837 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6415 times:
It's scheduled for A/C 6458 or N658UA....Remember it's always subject to change though...
Hope this helps
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Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6411 times:
Quoting Flyiguy (Reply 1): It's scheduled for A/C 6458 or N658UA....Remember it's always subject to change though...
FlyIGuy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 837 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6394 times:
They already changed it...it's now A/C 6453 or N653UA
The opinions I post are of mine and mine alone, not of the airline I work for.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6386 times:
It's a shame they've downguaged all of their ORD-LHR flights down to a B763. The first time I flew on a B777 was on one of UA's ORD-LHR flight.
KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4976 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6366 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4): It's a shame they've downguaged all of their ORD-LHR flights down to a B763. The first time I flew on a B777 was on one of UA's ORD-LHR flight.
Why a shame? If it aint full it aint full.... It's just not economic these days..... Why do you think all those 757's are crossing the pond?
" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6357 times:
FlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6157 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4): It's a shame they've downguaged all of their ORD-LHR flights down to a B763. The first time I flew on a B777 was on one of UA's ORD-LHR flight.
While I do love flying the UA 777s (they just feel like the original, real-deal 777 to me - they got them first, it's kind of UA's airplane - like the original 747 was PanAm's.. also I like 2-5-2). That said, the product on the 767 is pretty nice, it's still a great ride across the pond, and if LHR isn't the top market for UA and the 777s can be better used elsewhere - great for them!!
"Let the world change you, and you can change the world"
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6124 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 5): Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4):
It's a shame they've downguaged all of their ORD-LHR flights down to a B763. The first time I flew on a B777 was on one of UA's ORD-LHR flight.
Why a shame? If it aint full it aint full.... It's just not economic these days..... Why do you think all those 757's are crossing the pond?
Chicago is the third most traveled city to London after New York and Dubai. *
*Crain's Chicago Business (can't remember the date however)
The argument was that with UA starting DEN-LHR, it will no longer need the feed to ORD hence the downguage to B763's. DEN-LHR is no longer a yearly route anymore (for now at least). AA has removed a flight as well.
Quoting Legacytravel (Reply 6): Since she is just a Sophmore she has to fly UA while the majority of the band is on VS 39.
I'm not so sure if I get that point? . I remember back in 2001 when I flew on VS's shoddy B742's (just a few months before they cut the route), the plane was packed with school kids.
IIRC, VS uses their A343's on the route now (and sometimes the A346). The good news is if VS doesn't cut the route, it will possibly go to the B789 (Branson has recently stated their B789's are going to be replacing their A343's).
Quoting Legacytravel (Reply 6):
I am flying out of EWR on VS as well. I like UAL but I dont think they stack up very well against VS.
The first time I flew VS was back in 1999-JFK-LHR-JFK. Their A343 product was better than their B744 product.
Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 7): (they just feel like the original, real-deal 777 to me - they got them first, it's kind of UA's airplane - like the original 747 was PanAm's.. also I like 2-5-2
Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 7): That said, the product on the 767 is pretty nice,
I haven't flown on their B763's in about 15 years...
ATTart From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 638 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6102 times:
The, 767s on the UA ORD- LHR routes are the reconfigured planes. Just a note..
Remember: When someone talks behind your back, it only means you're two steps ahead of them!
TonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 982 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6072 times:
Well, "sometimes" they have the new configuration, there is no guarantee as pax in C have found all too often
ATTart From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 638 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6028 times:
Quoting TonyBurr (Reply 10): Well, "sometimes" they have the new configuration, there is no guarantee as pax in C have found all too often
That, is true. But, at least there are only around 6 out there yet to be reconfigured. That, is not taking into account the 2 in the shop right now.
Remember: When someone talks behind your back, it only means you're two steps ahead of them!
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6019 times:
The group that is traveling is to large to be accomidated onone flight. So they split the group up. 90+ people on the VS flight the band director and upper classmen and the under classmen and some chaperones are on the UAL flight.
The joke was that the under classmen had to suffer with UA.
I have been a huge UA backer but wonder if they can compete with VS as well.
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6004 times:
Quoting FlyIGuy (Reply 3): They already changed it...it's now A/C 6453 or N653UA
Star Alliance colors. I told my daughter to take lots of pics and I will let her file her first trip report upon return.
I have both my kids hooked on aviation. My daughter at one time could tell you what kind of plane was landing at MKE by the landing lights.
She since has found boys and MSN more appealing now. But I still have my son involved in aviation.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5912 times:
Quoting Legacytravel (Reply 12):
The group that is traveling is to large to be accomidated onone flight. So they split the group up. 90+ people on the VS flight the band director and upper classmen and the under classmen and some chaperones are on the UAL flight.
The joke was that the under classmen had to suffer with UA.
Oh, I get it now...
Quoting Legacytravel (Reply 12): I have been a huge UA backer but wonder if they can compete with VS as well.
Given UA's large hub @ ORD I think UA will be fine.
NYC2theworld From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 653 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5866 times:
90+ kids is nothing. Try checking in 130 high school students (a mix of Thai and German) all on the same SQ flight out of JFK. I was the lead person for the student exchange program responsible for making sure all of these kids and their 2 chaperones got checked in and on the flight ON TIME. I remember lining up the kids in T4 at JFK because we got their before SQ opened their check-in counters. El Al wasn't exaclty happy I used some of their space and I told them "This is a place of public accomodation. If you can get SQ to open their check-in counters early, I will be more than happy to line them up."
The line literally went the whole lengh of the terminal. I still feel bad for the people on the flight who saw their check-in line!
I wish I was going on that trip...They would have upgraded me to business for helping them manage their line!
Always wonderers if this "last and final boarding call" is in fact THE last and final boarding call.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5785 times:
Quoting NYC2theworld (Reply 15): 90+ kids is nothing. Try checking in 130 high school students (a mix of Thai and German) all on the same SQ flight out of JFK.
I'm glad I wouldn't' have to do something as such...I would go bonkers...
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22024 posts, RR: 51 Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5650 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 4): It's a shame they've downguaged all of their ORD-LHR flights down to a B763. The first time I flew on a B777 was on one of UA's ORD-LHR flight.
The downgauge has done wonders for yield, but was primarily driven at the behest of Chicago based Motorola to win its business away from AA.
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 8): Chicago is the third most traveled city to London after New York and Dubai. *
Well per CAA 2007 annual stats there are many more heavily travelled markets to/from London above Chicago.
From my quick scan not counting NYC or Dubai, found the following:
Dublin - 4,198,445
Amsterdam - 3,311,056
Paris - 2,237,943
Madrid - 2,024,824
Rome - 2,006,449
Geneva - 1,956,727
Malaga - 1,890,584
Barcelona - 1,803,393
Frankfurt - 1,784,911
Hong Kong - 1,659,892
Toronto - 1,639,691
Milan - 1,612,479
Chicago - 1,604,770
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
AussieItaliano From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 441 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5511 times:
London gets more pax from Toronto than Chicago? That surprises me!
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5218 times:
Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 18): London gets more pax from Toronto than Chicago? That surprises me!
Toronto is the main gateway I believe to England from Canada. While in the US there are many many more cities from which you can fly to London from.
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5210 times:
Thanks. There are so many things for the kids to get messed up with. My wife and I do what we can to keep the kids involved in sports and other interested such as plane spotting hoping to keep them on the right path.
My son is looking forward to seeing Arsenal stadium during our stay. He plays on club soccer here.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4517 times:
I grew up not too far from ORD. Lived in Chicago for 30+ years. I had a number of friends who worked for Motorola. Sad to see where their stock is right now.
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 17): Well per CAA 2007 annual stats there are many more heavily travelled markets to/from London above Chicago.
From my quick scan not counting NYC or Dubai, found the following:
Dublin - 4,198,445
Amsterdam - 3,311,056
Paris - 2,237,943
Madrid - 2,024,824
Rome - 2,006,449
Geneva - 1,956,727
Malaga - 1,890,584
Barcelona - 1,803,393
Frankfurt - 1,784,911
Hong Kong - 1,659,892
Toronto - 1,639,691
Milan - 1,612,479
Chicago - 1,604,770
Interesting..
Here's some snippets I've found.
"He added, “Chicago is a remarkable city in many, many different ways. It happens to be the second-biggest business class market in the world. JFK-[to]-London is the first-biggest. Chicago [to] London is the second-biggest. We look forward to taking some of that market and giving British Airways, American and United a run for their money.”"
..and here is the snippet from where I took my quote from:
"Nearly 1.9 million air passengers traveled between London and Chicago last year, making Chicago the third-most traveled destination from the United Kingdom city, after New York and Dubai. "*
Crain's Chicago Business-Dec. 04, 2006
I'm not so sure how they got Chicago as third as its obviously well behind other cities.
Quoting Legacytravel (Reply 20): Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
I call that great parenting..
Thanks. There are so many things for the kids to get messed up with. My wife and I do what we can to keep the kids involved in sports and other interested such as plane spotting hoping to keep them on the right path.
My son is looking forward to seeing Arsenal stadium during our stay. He plays on club soccer here.
YULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3668 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 21): It happens to be the second-biggest business class market in the world.
Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 18): London gets more pax from Toronto than Chicago? That surprises me!
Being a business market does not mean the total number of pax will necessarily be so high.
And the numbers you refer to are absolute pax numbers.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3500 times:
Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 23): Being a business market does not mean the total number of pax will necessarily be so high.
Of course not.
"Up the Irons!"
25 HOOB747: Do you think the summer travel season with its increased loads might bring back the 777 to the ORD-LHR route? I looooove flying the 777 home from Lond
26 Gilesdavies: Not surprised in the slightest, the UK to Canada market is huge! As well as 6-8 flights a day flown by BA and AC from LHR to YYZ, there is a huge cha
27 FlyLKU: Funny, that is the tail that went mechanical on me at Zurich last year and I had to stay over another night. Interestingly it was an engine problem t
28 Viscount724: In addition to YYZ, 6 other cities in Canada have nonstop scheduled service to/from LHR - YVR, YYC, YEG, YOW, YUL. YHZ.
29 CBPhoto: N653UA, I just rode on that bird from LHR a few weeks ago! A Good ride! The 767s are a nice ride, it was the first time I had rode on a 763 in a very
30 Jfk777: United should have all 777 from ORD to LHR, if they don't have 777 or 744 then UA shouldn't have parked those 6 744 earlier this year. Could you imagi
31 ATTart: United, is using the 767s with the new F/J seats on the ORD-LHR flights..
32 AirportPlan: The 767s are a better choice for UA on the ORD-LHR route for many resons. Here are just a few. 1. The 767s are the right size for this route. This al
33 Ualcsr: Just flew it myself last week non-rev. The ORD-LHR portion was on the old config...got business with an empty seat next to me so it wasn't too bad, bu
34 Jacobin777: -BA has 3 frequencies/day (except for a few days at the end of the year) . LHR-ORD are: BA-295/299/297 The difference is during the offseason, the
35 LAXdude1023: Interstingly enough, Ill throw some numbers out there as well. But I only have the stats for LHR, not all London Airports: 1 John F. Kennedy Internat
36 VV701: Here is my 2 cents worth - the CAA figures for passengers travelling between LHR and international locations in October 2008: 1. JFK 236,335 2. DUB 1
37 Jacobin777: I wonder how the "real" numbers look......
38 VV701: Lies, damned lies and statistics! So what is wrong with my numbers for October 2008 which were: 1. JFK 236,335 2. DUB 153,202 3. AMS 146,847 4. DXB 13
39 Atcanobbio: so the re-configured 763's have AVOD PTV's in economy??[Edited 2008-12-27 14:51:10]
40 United: mmm my brother is also arriving in London for the New Year's parade... except he's already visiting me here in Europe and I'll fly with him over to L
41 Jacobin777: Spreading the love amongst carriers..
42 CBPhoto: No AVOD, just PTVs with a few (6 I think) channels of videos!
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. I remember back in 2001 when I flew on VS's shoddy B742's (just a few months before they cut the route), the plane was packed with school kids.
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