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PIA May Launch Barcelona In March  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5341 times:

PIA's managing director in an interview to a Gulf newspaper has said that they plan on starting BCN via Dubai twice weekly with 777 from March 2009, while permission for Dublin is being sought as well.

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User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5273 times:

PIA to BCN via DXB................I don´t think so.

I think BCN is the EK list for 2009, so 2 airlines in this route are too much. And SIA will go daily soon to SIN via Milan.

Do you have the link for this interview??


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26978 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5255 times:

Quoting 777way (Thread starter):
PIA's managing director in an interview to a Gulf newspaper has said that they plan on starting BCN via Dubai twice weekly with 777 from March 2009, while permission for Dublin is being sought as well.

Has been rumored for a while now. BCN was always going to be before DUB due to larger Ex Pat population. Hope if and when it starts it works well for them. If they can sell BCN-DXB it might do alot better.

Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 1):
PIA to BCN via DXB................I don´t think so.

Has been reported in various Pakistani press over the last 6 months. Was also discussed on here a few times.

Would be great to see them in DUB also.


“We need to replace these ageing aircraft to meet the demands of today,” he added. Capt. Haroon also disclosed that from March 2009 PIA will start Islamabad-Barcelona twice weekly Boeing-777 service with Dubai as one stop.

“Dublin is another new destination for which we are waiting confirmation while we will increase Leeds flights from two to thrice weekly,” he added.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayA...ember742.xml§ion=business&col=

[Edited 2008-12-27 11:41:13]

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4958 times:

I assume DUB would be one stop. Would PIA use Dubai or somewhere in Europe?


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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4803 times:
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Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 1):
And SIA will go daily soon to SIN via Milan

Hi MIgAiR54,

Singapore Airlines is flying nowadays daily to SIN via MIL with Boeing 777-300 equipment.

Quoting 777way (Thread starter):
PIA's managing director in an interview to a Gulf newspaper has said that they plan on starting BCN via Dubai twice weekly with 777 from March 2009, while permission for Dublin is being sought as well.

Seeing the doubts of Emirates to not serve Spain, the decision of PIA to serve DXB and ISB would be great if it comes to a happy end. Another 777 serving Barcelona.

I cannot wait until the final decision and I'm so tired to reach DXB twice a month via CDG, FRA or other European city.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4803 times:



Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 1):
PIA to BCN via DXB................I don´t think so.

I think BCN is the EK list for 2009, so 2 airlines in this route are too much.

IMO EK would do better in MAD as the amount of Madrid based companies doing business in the Gulf have risen significantly over the last couple of years. I personally know several people who commute MAD-AUH and MAD-DXB on monthly basis always flying F/J.

PIA to BCN is looking after low yield-VFR base in Cataluña



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26978 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4793 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 5):
PIA to BCN is looking after low yield-VFR base in Cataluña

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Quoting Humberside (Reply 3):
I assume DUB would be one stop. Would PIA use Dubai or somewhere in Europe?


Would be great to see PIA DUB-DXB-ISB or KHI. We have no DXB link, only AUH. PIA would pick up Irish traffic on the DUB-DXB if they did this flight. Also DXB-Pakistan would pick up a bit. Maybe with the chance of picking up various markets Ireland-Gulf and Ireland - Pakistan and UAE- Pakistan it might make the route work.


User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4752 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 4):
Singapore Airlines is flying nowadays daily to SIN via MIL with Boeing 777-300 equipment

I didn't´t know, I though they will start next march. Great news, I read in an interview with SIA manager that they may start non stop service in a near future.

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 5):
PIA to BCN is looking after low yield-VFR base in Cataluña

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Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 5):
IMO EK would do better in MAD

They will. I think they could serve with A330. QR and Royal Jordania are the only link with the middle east. And the traffic between Spain and the middle east, south Asia is growing fast.


Did PIA serve MAD in the past???? I remember I have seen PIA aircraft in MAD, I think it was an A310. Could be??


User currently offlineLH121GLA From Germany, joined May 2004, 455 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4735 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):
Would be great to see PIA DUB-DXB-ISB or KHI. We have no DXB link, only AUH. PIA would pick up Irish traffic on the DUB-DXB if they did this flight. Also DXB-Pakistan would pick up a bit. Maybe with the chance of picking up various markets Ireland-Gulf and Ireland - Pakistan and UAE- Pakistan it might make the route work.

They started their GLA service like that - ISB-DXB-GLA and LHE-DXB-GLA ... however the route became nonstop shortly after that ... too much competition from EK I guess.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26978 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4726 times:

How long have they had an office in Madrid?

PIA / Pakistan International Airlines
Edif. España, 7th Floor
Gran Via 88
28013 Madrid
Spain
Tel: (+34) 915482239
Fax: (+34) 915590547


User currently offlinePP705 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

Is there a market for Pak-BCN? I know Pak-DXB is a huge market.

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4427 times:



Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 7):
Did PIA serve MAD in the past???? I remember I have seen PIA aircraft in MAD, I think it was an A310. Could be??

It must ahve been a VIP flight, also operated to Seville twice, PIA have never served Spain before.

Quoting PP705 (Reply 10):
Is there a market for Pak-BCN? I know Pak-DXB is a huge market.

Yes some 30,000 Pakistanis living in BCN.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26978 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4422 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 11):
PIA have never served Spain before.

Yes I was looking on another website and it showed the history of their routes operated incl suspended ones but Spain never showed up. They used to serve ATH with an A310 but GF and EK seem to have pushed them out sadly. At the boarding gate for GF ATH-BAH 2 weeks ago 90% of passengers were Pakistani workers going home for visits.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4389 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
“We need to replace these ageing aircraft to meet the demands of today,” he added. Capt. Haroon also disclosed that from March 2009 PIA will start Islamabad-Barcelona twice weekly Boeing-777 service with Dubai as one stop.

“Dublin is another new destination for which we are waiting confirmation while we will increase Leeds flights from two to thrice weekly,” he added.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayA...ember742.xml§ion=business&col=

Also, PK is looking to increase LDS which is good to see as well!

I'm wondering however if a B772 is "too much" plane. Maybe that's a route for an A310.  scratchchin 



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4381 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
Also, PK is looking to increase LDS which is good to see as well!

I meant LBA not LDS (can't edit my post for some reason).



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26978 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4335 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
I'm wondering however if a B772 is "too much" plane. Maybe that's a route for an A310. scratchchin

Hmm problem is everyone wants the 772's lol....


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4324 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
I'm wondering however if a B772 is "too much" plane. Maybe that's a route for an A310. scratchchin

Hmm problem is everyone wants the 772's lol....

 rotfl ..true, true...I do think PK should upgrade its A310's, that should help.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26978 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4297 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 16):
.I do think PK should upgrade its A310's, that should help.

Well if the new report is anything to go by this should happen in 2009 but this is PIA so you dont know lol... I miss the old PIA personally. Back in the 80's.


User currently offlineEmptyarm From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4259 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 11):
Yes some 30,000 Pakistanis living in BCN.

Most of them using QR flights MAD/DOH/LHE to go back home...


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4240 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 16):
.I do think PK should upgrade its A310's, that should help.

Well if the new report is anything to go by this should happen in 2009 but this is PIA so you dont know lol... I miss the old PIA personally. Back in the 80's.

I agree, and I miss the "old-school" tails as well. I do hope the reports are true, and I agree, with PK, one never knows..lol!

Quoting Emptyarm (Reply 18):
Quoting 777way (Reply 11):
Yes some 30,000 Pakistanis living in BCN.

Most of them using QR flights MAD/DOH/LHE to go back home...

Which PK is hoping to get its share of!



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4228 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
I'm wondering however if a B772 is "too much" plane. Maybe that's a route for an A310. scratchchin


Hmm problem is everyone wants the 772's lol....

Maybe, but do you really think that the public care if it is a 777 or A310?? Okay if the A310s cabin is old and outdated, maybe then, but otherwise not.



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4220 times:



Quoting Emptyarm (Reply 18):
Quoting 777way (Reply 11):
Yes some 30,000 Pakistanis living in BCN.

Most of them using QR flights MAD/DOH/LHE to go back home...

Why werentt Royal Jordanian and Turkish able to capture this segment?

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 19):
Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 16):
.I do think PK should upgrade its A310's, that should help.

Well if the new report is anything to go by this should happen in 2009 but this is PIA so you dont know lol... I miss the old PIA personally. Back in the 80's.

I agree, and I miss the "old-school" tails as well.

PIA should have stuck to their 80's green/gold colour scheme, only modifications being adopting a darker green and using abbreviated larger "Pakistan" title only.


User currently offlineEmptyarm From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4190 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 21):
Why werentt Royal Jordanian and Turkish able to capture this segment?

Both RJ and TK are well fed with Spanish tourists (many of them high revenue) and businessmen, so maybe they are not interested in the low yield ex-pat passengers. Additionally, I guess their baggage allow must be 40 Kg. to Pakistan, so RJ (A320) and TK (B738) would be restricted on this aspect.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

According to another board New York may get upped to six times weekly with a mix of 777 and 747, PK also seeking clearence for 742M AP-BAK which will be used to restart Germany either Frankfurt or Hahn going onto JFK mainly for cargo.

User currently offlineBCA2005 From India, joined Sep 2005, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3961 times:



Quoting Emptyarm (Reply 22):
Quoting 777way (Reply 21):
Why werentt Royal Jordanian and Turkish able to capture this segment?

Both RJ and TK are well fed with Spanish tourists (many of them high revenue) and businessmen, so maybe they are not interested in the low yield ex-pat passengers. Additionally, I guess their baggage allow must be 40 Kg. to Pakistan, so RJ (A320) and TK (B738) would be restricted on this aspect.

and also, RJ does not serve Pakistan.


25 777way : RJ served Pakistan till summer 2006.
26 777way : Houston also said to be resuming via Hamburg according to a PIA employee at LHR who posts at another board pending clearence from EU as PIA 747 fleet
27 777way : Stansted to restart as well.
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