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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4729 times:

I always thought that Braniff International's "Flying Colors" liveries were one of the most interesting ever and I've often wondered why someone hasn't copied the concept since. It was always fun guessing which color the plane you were flying on was going to be. Would this be expensive to do today?


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4650 times:

I don't think it would be too tough to do, as planes have to be painted anyway...there have been many discussions here about airlines "spending money in changing their logo", and how planes are stripped and repainted all the time. It's just a matter of doing it.

United would have the best chance of being the new "flying colors" - the newest scheme would lend itself to red, green, purple, yellow, gold, orange, and many other shades. It'd be an impressive site at UA hubs!!



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10365 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4386 times:

I agree that Braniff had one of the most interesting liveries ever with its Flying colours and the later version called Ultra. And whats astonishing: If Braniffs airplanes would fly today, they would not look like a thing from the past. A "Big Orange" Jumbo-jet still looks much more modern than a Air China Triple Seven!

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Of cause such a livery would be possible today and that no airline has something like it is a shame. It wouldnt be decisively more expensive than any other scheme as its not a complicated livery, easier to paint than for example a "simple" curvy livery like Aeromexico or Asiana. Certainly not more work than SQs or CIs livery.
Sadly there are very few airlines painting their aircraft in solid colours. Vietnam Airlines or Air Greenland come to my mind. But these have just one colour, although the Air Greenland A330 is stunning:

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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7637 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4162 times:

While not nearly as bold or dramatic, but AC Jazz does use 4 different colours on their aircraft ....


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

Doesnt Allegro fly different colored 727s and MD-80s?


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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3960 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 1):
United would have the best chance of being the new "flying colors" - the newest scheme would lend itself to red, green, purple, yellow, gold, orange, and many other shades. It'd be an impressive site at UA hubs!!

No doubt! That'd make UA really stand out and it'd be easy to change the shades of blue to any other color. We've already (sort of) seen an example of it with Ted. Smile

Quoting NA (Reply 2):
If Braniffs airplanes would fly today, they would not look like a thing from the past. A "Big Orange" Jumbo-jet still looks much more modern than a Air China Triple Seven!

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User currently offlineMrSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3950 times:

Braniff truly set the pace not only with Flying Colors, but with it's Calder planes and the final "ultra" liveries. Boy do I miss Braniff.


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User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3905 times:
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Another thing from the past is AirBaltic's beautiful dancing Ladies


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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3787 times:

Just a personal opinion, but the Braniff "Flying Colors" might look dated today. If they could modify it some to give it a more up-to-date look, it might go over with passengers and public alike in a big way.


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User currently offlineAFKL From Netherlands, joined Feb 2008, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3760 times:

What about the Frontier animal tails? I know its not a full body paint scheme, but its in the same line in what you are talking about.

Although I don't necessarily find the Frontier animal tails all that beautiful, I still love them because of the idea and seeing so many different tails flying around form the same airline. I guess this can even get the public interested in flying different registrations (as its so much more obvious to spot a different animal on the tail than reading a small reg. number on the side of the fuselage).


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User currently offlineConair From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3637 times:

I know they were advert's but I rather liked the Western Pacific B737's,shame I only got to see them in Airliners Magazine



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User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3398 times:



Quoting MrSkyGuy (Reply 6):
Braniff truly set the pace not only with Flying Colors, but with it's Calder planes and the final "ultra" liveries. Boy do I miss Braniff.

I feel very fortunate that I was able to fly Braniff on several ocassions when I lived in Ft. Worth. I always thought there was something special about their 70's livery, but I really didn't care too much for the "ultra" look. I only saw the Calder livery a couple of times, but I thought it was interesting.

I watch planes on final to DCA out my office window when the wind is out of the south, and I often think how nice it would be to see one of Braniff's 727's going by. Sadly, the only place I'll I can see them is in my memories.



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3860 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3128 times:



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 8):
Just a personal opinion, but the Braniff "Flying Colors" might look dated today. If they could modify it some to give it a more up-to-date look, it might go over with passengers and public alike in a big way.

Braniff was all about change, and I am sure had they survived (the REAL Braniff, not the MKII or IIIs), the "Ultra Look", would not have made it through the 80s. Braniff seemingly wanted to change their look every 5-7 years or so (Girard 1965-72, Flying Colors 1972-1977, Ultra 1977-1982) thus it is likely that BN would have likely changed their image several times since 1982. At shutdown, much of BN's fleet were still sporting the old "Flying Colors" scheme as evidenced in this now famous pic (bottom photo)

http://www.braniffpages.com/pic6.html

Quoting MrSkyGuy (Reply 6):
Boy do I miss Braniff.

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3031 times:



Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 4):
Doesnt Allegro fly different colored 727s and MD-80s?

If your talking about the Mexican carrier they are long gone.



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2973 times:



Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 12):
You and me both my friend!

I'll third that! BI will always have a special place in my memories. My first plane trip was on a BI 707 out of MKC. (OK, so I'm showing my age). Silly



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User currently offlinePh-tvh From Netherlands, joined May 2001, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

Speaking of "Flying Colors"... (a bit off-topic)

Where does the term "He passed with flying colors!" actually come from?
Certainly that term existed long before Braniff...


User currently offlineBraniff1968 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2637 times:
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My first flight was on a Braniff 707 (orange) ORD - DAL it was fun to fly on Braniff I flew on a 727 (green) DAL- OKC - MCI - ORD
727 (red) ORD - TUL - DAL
727 (green) DAL - ICT - MKC - ORD

It was great to walk up to the gate and discover which "'flying color"' you were on


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3860 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2538 times:



Quoting Braniff1968 (Reply 16):
It was great to walk up to the gate and discover which "'flying color"' you were on

As a kid in Minnesota, it was always a fun guessing game between my brother, sister and I on the trip to MSP as to what color plane we would be flying on that day. My first BN flight (that I can recall, and I am really dating myself), was a L-188 Electra in blue from DAL- HOU.

Thomas



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User currently offlineChapavaeaa From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2485 times:



Quoting MCIGuy (Thread starter):
I always thought that Braniff International's "Flying Colors" liveries were one of the most interesting ever and I've often wondered why someone hasn't copied the concept since. It was always fun guessing which color the plane you were flying on was going to be. Would this be expensive to do today?

Mesa currently runs multiple paint jobs, depending on which carrier the aircraft is flying for. The challenge in running multiple paint jobs is when an engine off of plane X moves to plane Y. Radome on plane A is damaged and one is cannibalized off of plane B....

I don't get to see Mesa aircraft all that often but I spent a fair amount of time around them about 2 years ago...and they couldn't seem to keep the correctly painted panels on the correct aircraft. Not picking on them...it is just tough to keep in sync. It would drive costs. Marketing time, planning time, various meetings, tracking to keep a list of what aircraft are out of sync....possibily a few spare radomes or other panels (which you know are not going to be stored at whatever station needs them...). It all drives costs.

I don't recall Braniff having that difficulty...but I never did get all that close to them. I will admit to admiring their paint scheme. They also had one of the most snazzy corporate headquarters I've ever visited.

(by the way...Braniff still owes me $20...if anyone knows how I can collect???)  Smile


User currently offlineVT977 From India, joined May 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

Air India Express has different designs on the tails of all their aircraft...


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User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3067 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Again only a historical reference, but Aspen Airways in their last livery had their Convairs and BAe 148s in 4 different-colored fuselage "swooshes" and aspen leaf tail logos, I think corresponding to the seasons (red, green, brown, blue).


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Quoting Ph-tvh (Reply 15):
Where does the term "He passed with flying colors!" actually come from?
Certainly that term existed long before Braniff...

I believe it's an old nautical term. I'm not sure how "passing" became associated, but ships returned to port "with flying colors", or all flags hoisted and displayed, after a successful journey. It also seems coincidental that Braniff's marketing scheme was a modern counterpoint to cross-airport rival AA and their "Flagships" (also a nautical reference).

-Ram


User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1633 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1875 times:



Quoting MCIGuy (Thread starter):
I've often wondered why someone hasn't copied the concept since.

Sterling did something similar along those lines with their 737s a while back.

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User currently offlineBabyblueBHX From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

There was once a British charter airliner called Flying colours that didn't live up to its name it had a rather bland livery really.


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