WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8771 posts, RR: 77 Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10060 times:
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Quoting B747forever (Reply 8): Well I dont know, but I think upon their retirement many of the 744s will be really really old with a lot of hours under their belt, i.e. the recently LH 744 that hit the 100,000 hours mark.
The hours aren't the problem, usually its the cycles. And the 744s still have a lot of cycles left until they reach their structural limit here. See the old 741s which are still flying. They have a lot of hours but not too many cycles. So it shouldn't be a problem to convert them to freighter and let them fly another 10 years or so.
ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5134 posts, RR: 11 Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9871 times:
Quoting B747forever (Reply 15): But I am sure it will take a few years for BA to retire their strong 744 fleet, as it is so big.
I read 2023 as each aircraft comes to its 4th D-Check. They maybe gone a little sooner than 2023 but alot of their newer 744s were delivered between 1997/99 so maybe 2018/20 timeframe for the last aircraft. Then again it may stay 2023.
B747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 16826 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9838 times:
Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 16): I read 2023 as each aircraft comes to its 4th D-Check. They maybe gone a little sooner than 2023 but alot of their newer 744s were delivered between 1997/99 so maybe 2018/20 timeframe for the last aircraft. Then again it may stay 2023.
Okay, that is great, because I love the 744 too much to see it go!
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5463 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9779 times:
Well QF are supposed to officially retire their last B743 tomorrow 31-12-2008. On that basis we should see the first 744 retirement about 2014, but some how I think it will be closer to 2010/2012. The B744ERs should see 2020/2022 before retirements start as they are only six years or so old.
B747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 16826 posts, RR: 11 Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 9468 times:
Quoting Hoppe777 (Reply 23): Oh no maybe you got me wrong, I mean I want them to stay. Bringing out the 747-8 will keep them in the air longer.......Im presuming all this by your name that you also are.....747 forever
Hehe, Okay I see what you mean now. Got you wrong from the beginning.
So about 2020 we can be pretty sure that there are very few 744s in PAX version.
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25 A342: What's the hours limit on the 744? IIRC the A330 / A340 has a 120,000 hours life limit (but please correct me if I'm wrong!).
26 Hoppe777: That sux atleast I can say Ive been on dozens.... its upsetting to see them piling up in Arizona.....alas all good things come to an end.
27 WILCO737: I don't know what the limit is for the 744. But they do not plan to retire them until the 748i comes and if the economy grows they maybe keep the 744
28 Shanxz: They would have already been phased out earlier had the A380 arrived on time. The crew doesn't look forward to flying that plane, and I was shell sho
29 B747forever: Maybe the product is not as good as brand new SQ birds, but remember you fly on the Queen of the Skies
30 Pfletch1228: SAA phased out all their 744s. They have now brought two of them out of retirement and back in service on JNB-Lagos and Luanda-Lisbon routes.
31 SEPilot: I don't think they have an hours limit. IIRC they were designed for 30,000 cycles; for almost all fleets that would be at least 150,0000 hours, and p
32 VV701: In the Notes to Accounts of their 2007-08 Annual Report BA give the expected life of their 744s as 25 years. Scroll to the bottom of the page at: htt
33 Tdscanuck: Ever since airliners went to damage tolerant design, I don't think anything has been built with an hours limit. There is a design service life. The m
34 Amax1977: Sorry for asking the dumb question... But what is the cycle in this case? Thanks and regards, Amax
35 Ready5bird: Firstly - no question is a dumb question! A cycle AFAIK is a takeoff, flight and landing. Cheers! Happy new year to all!
36 Ryanair!!!: The original plan was for the 747-400s (Megatop) to leave by 2010. However this seems to have shifted slightly into the new decade. I suspect this is