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User currently offlineRaid1wa From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 15 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4403 times:

Can any one tell me what has happened to the ERJ145's and BAe 146's of which I understand have now all been sold. Do we know who has bought them or where they are? I also understand FlyBe has wet leased 2 ATR-72's from Aer Arann but I cant find any more info on this does anyone know the details?


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User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4328 times:

I think four of the ERJ145's have gone to new airlines Athens Airways. Not sure of any delivery details though.

FlyBe are still flying some of the ERJ's now aren't they?


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4210 times:
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Quoting Raid1wa (Thread starter):
Can any one tell me what has happened to the ERJ145's and BAe 146's of which I understand have now all been sold. Do we know who has bought them or where they are? I also understand FlyBe has wet leased 2 ATR-72's from Aer Arann but I cant find any more info on this does anyone know the details?



Quoting Raid1wa (Thread starter):
I think four of the ERJ145's have gone to new airlines Athens Airways. Not sure of any delivery details though.

FlyBe are still flying some of the ERJ's now aren't they?

Hi there,

one of the Embraer ERJ-145 is stored at Exeter (G-EMBH) now registered as SX-CMA and will go to Athens Airways after repaint works;

another ERJ-145, presumably G-ERJE, is stored at Malaga with new registration EC-KXQ. It will operate for a new brand airline called Andalus Airlines that will intend to fly from AGP to many cities in North Africa;

Other two ERJ-145, registered G-EMBN and G-EMBO are operating actually as BMI regional colours and routes;

About ATR-72 equipment, the aircrafts wet-leased from Aer Arann are EI-REH and EI-REJ.

And finally, the BAe equipment is stored at Exter awaiting new owners or conversions to freighter as G-JEAY that is at Bacau (Romania) awaiting modifications to be a cargo aircraft.

Regards and happy new year,

Gerard



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User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1798 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4086 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 2):
another ERJ-145, presumably G-ERJE, is stored at Malaga with new registration EC-KXQ. It will operate for a new brand airline called Andalus Airlines that will intend to fly from AGP to many cities in North Africa;

Wrong. G-ERJE has gone to Dniproavia (Ukraine)... EC-KXQ is G-EMBO, which was not taken up by bmi regional.


User currently offlineRichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 798 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3946 times:

Why didn't they keep the ERJ145?

User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3909 times:
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Why didn't they keep the ERJ145?

Coz the juggle jet is the wrong type of aircraft for regional UK services

Plain fact you fill the BACK of the plane to cover costs and have front as your cream rather than the BA strategy of stripping OUT the economy cabin !

So you actually need a bigger plane to make money in the regions (Main reason BA strategy fails the regions)

The small business man in the North West and Midlands know the value THEIR OWN money and object to paying for a wider seat and sandwich on a hours flight to Paris unlike the corporations (using shareholders money !) but they still need to travel to do business.
Large parts of the UK industry remains in these areas and many/most have both suppliers and customers in the close continent and Italy.

So comes the EMB190 and DASH8-400Q combination

History suggests 80-100 seats as being ideal sweet point with good balance for European routes from MAN/BHX and even LGW.

Flybe are not really a LCC with complex fairs structure like FR/U2 but more a real Low Cost operation offering what could be said to be the John Lewis -never knowingly undersold fair policy.

That is to say they certainly aren't the cheapest but offer value for money !


User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

all this talk of Flybe fleet reminded me of something I saw at BHX yesterday. I was getting ready to leave on CO27 and looked out the window just in time to see what looked like a Jetstream or similar in Flybe colours take off. I didn't think they had any in the fleet. Was I seeing things?

User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7090 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3686 times:

50 seater regional jets are never suitable for non hub point to point flying.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19199 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3681 times:



Quoting BestWestern (Reply 7):
50 seater regional jets are never suitable for non hub point to point flying.

Indeed. Some good articles about the development of regional aircraft in Low Cost And Regional Airline Business magazine.



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User currently onlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7403 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

Dnipoavia State Aviation of the Ukraine operate four of the former flybe EMB 145S.

G-EMBF became UR-DNA. G-EMBG became UR-DNB. G-EMBS became UR-DNE. G-EMBT became UR-DNF.

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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3630 times:
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MMEPHX

Quote:

all this talk of Flybe fleet reminded me of something I saw at BHX yesterday. I was getting ready to leave on CO27 and looked out the window just in time to see what looked like a Jetstream or similar in Flybe colours take off. I didn't think they had any in the fleet. Was I seeing things?

Likely the Loganair SAAB flight to Dundee
(Loganair are now a Flybe franchise operator)


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