FX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 5 Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 13283 times:
I just heard from my Father-in-law that the first ever 747 showed up at Laughlin/Bullhead International Airport. He said he was walking out of the Home Depot just yards west of the Airport yesterday when one of the Sands Casino 747SP's showed up, he said it looks pretty funny though because it dwarfs EVERYTHING at the airport. From what he said he heard in one of the news papers, I guess at least one of the 747SP's is going to fly in and out of IFP with some regularity.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7176 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 13059 times:
Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter): Just a note, I do know that there is one error in the story, they call it a 747-100.
Well,a 747SP is really a 747-100SP technically.
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2250 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12956 times:
Quoting United_Fan (Reply 1): Well,a 747SP is really a 747-100SP technically.
The FAA Type Certificate Data Sheet A20WE lists the SP as the 747SP. There is no relationship to the -100 model for the SP.
I did find on the Boeing website the following statement, however the aircraft was certified as a separate model, a 747SP and not a 747-100SP. Boeing also built the 747-100SP (special performance), which had a shortened fuselage and was designed to fly higher, faster and farther non-stop than any 747 model of its time. http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_classic_back.html
CodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12498 times:
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 2): I did find on the Boeing website the following statement, however the aircraft was certified as a separate model, a 747SP and not a 747-100SP.
Boeing also built the 747-100SP (special performance), which had a shortened fuselage and was designed to fly higher, faster and farther non-stop than any 747 model of its time. http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747....html
I am sorry but they are the same airplane:
747-100SP = 747SP
747-100SR = 747SR.
I read this in Joe Sutter's book though you are correct, they are both referred to by the FAA as SP and SR respectively.
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12316 times:
Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter): I guess at least one of the 747SP's is going to fly in and out of IFP with some regularity.
Not in stone yet. MVAA is trying to get them to keep it there on a regular basis. I spoke with the lead 747 Capt for Venetian which is the company that operates them. Nice man. I have some nice shots from the arrival and taxi. I was going to post the pics on another site but last time they just ended up here full size anyway so I am going to try to get them in queue here tonight.
USAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 439 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12126 times:
The only way to verify the correct identity is to go to Door L1, top left corner and see what is officially stamped into the Boeing aircraft manfacturers identification plate.
What ever they stamped into the box marked "model" is officially what the plane is.
Side note.... everyone calls the B 757-200 a "757-200ER". Has anyone actually seen the Boeing manufactures plate that states the exact model of this jet? Is it officially an ER or not?
EI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12087 times:
Quoting USAFDO (Reply 7): Side note.... everyone calls the B 757-200 a "757-200ER". Has anyone actually seen the Boeing manufactures plate that states the exact model of this jet? Is it officially an ER or not?
I have never heard anyone here refer to the 757-200 as the "757-200ER" as, to my knowledge, there never was such a thing. I work for CO and I've never even heard it called that colloquially. Are you maybe thinking of the 767-200/300? Those hav both a regular and ER model.
USAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 439 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12043 times:
I see people refer to the 757-200 as an ER all the time on here.
All I am saying is that if a person would like to really know for sure the exact... very exact model of a jet, next time you board...stop for a moment of the jet way... at door L1... look up in the left corner and you will find the manufactures identification plate with serial number, exact model number, date manufactured, etc... riveted to the door frame...
ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3244 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10642 times:
Congrats to Nik for getting the first pictures of a 747 at Laughlin!!!
Amazing shots! Keep 'em coming? Maybe a night one???
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5566 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9698 times:
Nice shots! I didn't realize Sands had two SP's. Do they still have the 767 and L-1011-500?
AviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 540 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8106 times:
Quoting EI A330-200 (Reply 9): I have never heard anyone here refer to the 757-200 as the "757-200ER" as, to my knowledge, there never was such a thing. I work for CO and I've never even heard it called that colloquially. Are you maybe thinking of the 767-200/300? Those hav both a regular and ER model.
Sunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1936 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8090 times:
Wow Nick, That SP was worth the trip to IFP. I added this photo to my collection.
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7300 times:
Nik,
Nice work, great shots. A 747SP at IFP. Who would have thought?
Njgtr82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 121 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6663 times:
Nice shots Nick and Happy New Year
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14): Thanks for the kind words. Yes Tristar, 767 and a BBJ.
Don't they have a Gulfstream as well? I thought I've seen one in the same color scheme at EWR
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6082 times:
Quoting Sunking737 (Reply 16): Wow Nick, That SP was worth the trip to IFP. I added this photo to my collection.
Bravo, Bravo
Thanks Rob, IFP has gotten in my blood over the last decade. May not come back this time.
Quoting ATCRick (Reply 17): Nice work, great shots. A 747SP at IFP. Who would have thought?
Thanks. Yep the reaction to the area was comparable to the 380 coming to JFK. I mean everyone was going nuts. I heard people talking about it in the casinos last night. It was front page on both NV and AZ papers. It was one of those events that make spotting what it is. Not to mention it gives the airfield a boost if it stays for good. IFP has been growing by leaps and bounds mostly thanks to the Director and his assistant who have just did things in the last two years that nobody would have thought and continue to do so. They are both career aviation guys and their dedication shows. I think some new airlines are sure to follow as will more expansion and beautifying.
Quoting Njgtr82 (Reply 18): Nice shots Nick and Happy New Year
Quoting Njgtr82 (Reply 18): Don't they have a Gulfstream as well? I thought I've seen one in the same color scheme at EWR
Thanks and Happy New Year to you Bill. Yep they have a Gulfstream if not more. Once you see his big birds though you have no use for a Bizzer. Unless of course your Jason Whitebird.
Oh guys I just noticed the title of this thread. Just remember that Laughlin is in Nevada and Bullhead City is on Arizona soil. Even though we are only divided by the Colorado River.
FX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5363 times:
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19): Oh guys I just noticed the title of this thread. Just remember that Laughlin is in Nevada and Bullhead City is on Arizona soil. Even though we are only divided by the Colorado River.
I know that, I go there dozens of times each year but I just figured it would make the thread more attractive as I don't know how widely known BHC is as opposed to Laughlin.
Bkkair From Thailand, joined Aug 2001, 408 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5321 times:
From the article: "The airport and the Venetian Hotel have an agreement that allows the plane to park at the airport for short durations. Other airlines, such as Allegiant Air, often park planes at the LBIA overnight as a cost-saving measure. It is more cost effective for planes to park at outlying airfields than at large airports"
Is it that expensive to park at Las Vegas that these airlines can save money by flying an old 747SP to Laughlin and all the costs that that involves?
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5182 times:
Quoting FX1816 (Reply 20): I know that, I go there dozens of times each year but I just figured it would make the thread more attractive as I don't know how widely known BHC is as opposed to Laughlin.
LOL, yep your not alone. The people that built the golf course on Bullhead parkway named it Laughlin Ranch. Sounds much better than Bullhead.
Quoting Bkkair (Reply 21): Is it that expensive to park at Las Vegas that these airlines can save money by flying an old 747SP to Laughlin and all the costs that that involves?
Oh yes by far. I mean with the improvements to the highway throuugh Searchlight the drive is much shorter and the overnight price to park at IFP as opposed to LAS is huge. Definatley cost effective by a long shot. Not to mention the ease of getting in and out of the area. No taxi time no waiting. A home run for the Sands and MVAA. Hope that old TW bird has found a home.
FX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5137 times:
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 22): LOL, yep your not alone. The people that built the golf course on Bullhead parkway named it Laughlin Ranch. Sounds much better than Bullhead.
Yeah huh, I didn't even think of that. It's kind of like calling the Anaheim Angels, LA Angels of Anaheim Yuck I hate LA.
Vivavegas From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 505 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5100 times:
Seems like LVS has a bit of an aircraft problem, with the stock losing 95% of its value over the past year seem like it might be time to shop'em -
25 NIKV69: It was definately by design. Laughlin Ranch has much more appeal and with the fact you can just take the bridge out of Laughlin and stay on the parkw
26 Dbudd: I got a reply from the pilot who ferried BLK down to IFP.. "The managment of KIFP airport, and Landmark FBO have made us so welcome. Last summer, we i
27 NIKV69: Yes some years ago the existing regime was just letting IFP remain very stagnant. Recently with the help of David Gaines(Executive director) Darryl T
28 Dbudd: Last I heard LVSC had 14 aircraft. And no Nick..the tristar is not staying...it departed this morning... Dave[Edited 2009-01-02 09:02:37]
29 NIKV69: I heard. N388LS Owner: (unknown) Current Route: FAI..GAL.J512.ENM.G583.MARCC.R338.NATES.R220.NIKLL.R220.NUBDA.R220.GOC.W18.TENRU.W18.NAKTU.V58.XMC.V5
30 LASOctoberB6: She has the final say.. But I'll push and see. Still... Have you been out spotting lately? I haven't because of the very obvious reason of 25L/7R bei
32 NIKV69: Between the weather and things down here haven't shot there. Actually the closing makes it better since the chance of 1R departures is better. May be
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