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History - First Ever 747 At Laughlin, AZ  
User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14259 times:

I just heard from my Father-in-law that the first ever 747 showed up at Laughlin/Bullhead International Airport. He said he was walking out of the Home Depot just yards west of the Airport yesterday when one of the Sands Casino 747SP's showed up, he said it looks pretty funny though because it dwarfs EVERYTHING at the airport. From what he said he heard in one of the news papers, I guess at least one of the 747SP's is going to fly in and out of IFP with some regularity.

Here is the link to the story with a pic:

http://www.mohavedailynews.com/artic...2008/12/31/news/top_story/top1.txt

Just a note, I do know that there is one error in the story, they call it a 747-100.


FX1816

[Edited 2008-12-31 11:12:01]

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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 14035 times:



Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter):
Just a note, I do know that there is one error in the story, they call it a 747-100.

Well,a 747SP is really a 747-100SP technically.



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13932 times:

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 1):
Well,a 747SP is really a 747-100SP technically.

The FAA Type Certificate Data Sheet A20WE lists the SP as the 747SP. There is no relationship to the -100 model for the SP.

Link to Boeing 747 FAA TCDS:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...B786257479004B50E1/$FILE/A20WE.pdf

I did find on the Boeing website the following statement, however the aircraft was certified as a separate model, a 747SP and not a 747-100SP.
Boeing also built the 747-100SP (special performance), which had a shortened fuselage and was designed to fly higher, faster and farther non-stop than any 747 model of its time.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747family/pf/pf_classic_back.html

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User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13474 times:



Quoting CitationJet (Reply 2):
I did find on the Boeing website the following statement, however the aircraft was certified as a separate model, a 747SP and not a 747-100SP.
Boeing also built the 747-100SP (special performance), which had a shortened fuselage and was designed to fly higher, faster and farther non-stop than any 747 model of its time.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747....html

I am sorry but they are the same airplane:

747-100SP = 747SP
747-100SR = 747SR.

I read this in Joe Sutter's book though you are correct, they are both referred to by the FAA as SP and SR respectively.


User currently offlineBE77 From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13449 times:

Rats - I was there a month ago and would have loved to have seen it...I'm sure it would have been easily visible from any of the river front rooms!


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13292 times:



Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter):
I guess at least one of the 747SP's is going to fly in and out of IFP with some regularity.

Not in stone yet. MVAA is trying to get them to keep it there on a regular basis. I spoke with the lead 747 Capt for Venetian which is the company that operates them. Nice man. I have some nice shots from the arrival and taxi. I was going to post the pics on another site but last time they just ended up here full size anyway so I am going to try to get them in queue here tonight.

Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter):
it dwarfs EVERYTHING at the airport

Yep it's so funny looking at it on the ramp. After 8 years of Mad dogs and 738s it's a welcome change.


User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13133 times:

I might try and go down to see it...


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User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13102 times:

The only way to verify the correct identity is to go to Door L1, top left corner and see what is officially stamped into the Boeing aircraft manfacturers identification plate.

What ever they stamped into the box marked "model" is officially what the plane is.

Side note.... everyone calls the B 757-200 a "757-200ER". Has anyone actually seen the Boeing manufactures plate that states the exact model of this jet? Is it officially an ER or not?


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13076 times:



Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 6):
I might try and go down to see it...

Shoot me a PM if you do buddy.

Ok just uploaded this of a little Fedex guy with her in the background for a tease here.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/n875feifpnik.jpg


User currently offlineEI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13063 times:



Quoting USAFDO (Reply 7):
Side note.... everyone calls the B 757-200 a "757-200ER". Has anyone actually seen the Boeing manufactures plate that states the exact model of this jet? Is it officially an ER or not?

I have never heard anyone here refer to the 757-200 as the "757-200ER" as, to my knowledge, there never was such a thing. I work for CO and I've never even heard it called that colloquially. Are you maybe thinking of the 767-200/300? Those hav both a regular and ER model.



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User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13019 times:

I see people refer to the 757-200 as an ER all the time on here.

All I am saying is that if a person would like to really know for sure the exact... very exact model of a jet, next time you board...stop for a moment of the jet way... at door L1... look up in the left corner and you will find the manufactures identification plate with serial number, exact model number, date manufactured, etc... riveted to the door frame...


User currently onlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3300 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11618 times:
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Congrats to Nik for getting the first pictures of a 747 at Laughlin!!!

Amazing shots! Keep 'em coming? Maybe a night one???


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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5890 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10674 times:
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Nice shots! I didn't realize Sands had two SP's. Do they still have the 767 and L-1011-500?

User currently offlineLASoctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9905 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
Shoot me a PM if you do buddy.

Ok just uploaded this of a little Fedex guy with her in the background for a tease here.

Will do. I'll have to see what Ma says..  Smile

Quoting USAFDO (Reply 7):
everyone

Sir, not everyone does.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9451 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 11):
Congrats to Nik for getting the first pictures of a 747 at Laughlin!!!

Thanks Tis! It's so good when a plan comes together.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 11):
Maybe a night one???

Way ahead of you.

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 12):
Nice shots! I didn't realize Sands had two SP's. Do they still have the 767 and L-1011-500?

Thanks for the kind words. Yes Tristar, 767 and a BBJ.

Quoting LASoctoberB6 (Reply 13):
Will do. I'll have to see what Ma says..

Did you tell her how big a deal this is?  biggrin 


User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9082 times:
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Quoting EI A330-200 (Reply 9):
I have never heard anyone here refer to the 757-200 as the "757-200ER" as, to my knowledge, there never was such a thing. I work for CO and I've never even heard it called that colloquially. Are you maybe thinking of the 767-200/300? Those hav both a regular and ER model.

www.omniairintl.com/fleet.html


Omni apparently does...

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User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9066 times:

Wow Nick, That SP was worth the trip to IFPeyepopping   goldmedal  I added this photo to my collection.

Bravo, Bravo  bigthumbsup   champagne 



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User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 8276 times:
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Nik,

Nice work, great shots. A 747SP at IFP. Who would have thought?



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User currently offlineNjgtr82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 121 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 23 hours ago) and read 7639 times:

Nice shots Nick and Happy New Year

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14):
Thanks for the kind words. Yes Tristar, 767 and a BBJ.

Don't they have a Gulfstream as well? I thought I've seen one in the same color scheme at EWR


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 7058 times:



Quoting Sunking737 (Reply 16):
Wow Nick, That SP was worth the trip to IFP. I added this photo to my collection.

Bravo, Bravo

Thanks Rob, IFP has gotten in my blood over the last decade. May not come back this time.  biggrin 

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 17):
Nice work, great shots. A 747SP at IFP. Who would have thought?

Thanks. Yep the reaction to the area was comparable to the 380 coming to JFK. I mean everyone was going nuts. I heard people talking about it in the casinos last night. It was front page on both NV and AZ papers. It was one of those events that make spotting what it is. Not to mention it gives the airfield a boost if it stays for good. IFP has been growing by leaps and bounds mostly thanks to the Director and his assistant who have just did things in the last two years that nobody would have thought and continue to do so. They are both career aviation guys and their dedication shows. I think some new airlines are sure to follow as will more expansion and beautifying.

Quoting Njgtr82 (Reply 18):
Nice shots Nick and Happy New Year



Quoting Njgtr82 (Reply 18):
Don't they have a Gulfstream as well? I thought I've seen one in the same color scheme at EWR

Thanks and Happy New Year to you Bill. Yep they have a Gulfstream if not more. Once you see his big birds though you have no use for a Bizzer. Unless of course your Jason Whitebird.  crazy 


Oh guys I just noticed the title of this thread. Just remember that Laughlin is in Nevada and Bullhead City is on Arizona soil. Even though we are only divided by the Colorado River.


User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 20 hours ago) and read 6339 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Oh guys I just noticed the title of this thread. Just remember that Laughlin is in Nevada and Bullhead City is on Arizona soil. Even though we are only divided by the Colorado River.

I know that, I go there dozens of times each year but I just figured it would make the thread more attractive as I don't know how widely known BHC is as opposed to Laughlin.

FX1816


User currently offlineBkkair From Thailand, joined Aug 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 20 hours ago) and read 6297 times:

From the article:
"The airport and the Venetian Hotel have an agreement that allows the plane to park at the airport for short durations. Other airlines, such as Allegiant Air, often park planes at the LBIA overnight as a cost-saving measure. It is more cost effective for planes to park at outlying airfields than at large airports"

Is it that expensive to park at Las Vegas that these airlines can save money by flying an old 747SP to Laughlin and all the costs that that involves?


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 17 hours ago) and read 6158 times:



Quoting FX1816 (Reply 20):
I know that, I go there dozens of times each year but I just figured it would make the thread more attractive as I don't know how widely known BHC is as opposed to Laughlin.

LOL, yep your not alone. The people that built the golf course on Bullhead parkway named it Laughlin Ranch. Sounds much better than Bullhead.  wink 

Quoting Bkkair (Reply 21):
Is it that expensive to park at Las Vegas that these airlines can save money by flying an old 747SP to Laughlin and all the costs that that involves?

Oh yes by far. I mean with the improvements to the highway throuugh Searchlight the drive is much shorter and the overnight price to park at IFP as opposed to LAS is huge. Definatley cost effective by a long shot. Not to mention the ease of getting in and out of the area. No taxi time no waiting. A home run for the Sands and MVAA. Hope that old TW bird has found a home.


User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 16 hours ago) and read 6113 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 22):
LOL, yep your not alone. The people that built the golf course on Bullhead parkway named it Laughlin Ranch. Sounds much better than Bullhead.

Yeah huh, I didn't even think of that. It's kind of like calling the Anaheim Angels, LA Angels of Anaheim  Sad Yuck I hate LA.

FX1816


User currently offlineVivavegas From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 505 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 16 hours ago) and read 6076 times:

Seems like LVS has a bit of an aircraft problem, with the stock losing 95% of its value over the past year seem like it might be time to shop'em -

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LVS

Craig
MKE



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25 NIKV69 : It was definately by design. Laughlin Ranch has much more appeal and with the fact you can just take the bridge out of Laughlin and stay on the parkw
26 Dbudd : I got a reply from the pilot who ferried BLK down to IFP.. "The managment of KIFP airport, and Landmark FBO have made us so welcome. Last summer, we i
27 NIKV69 : Yes some years ago the existing regime was just letting IFP remain very stagnant. Recently with the help of David Gaines(Executive director) Darryl T
28 Dbudd : Last I heard LVSC had 14 aircraft. And no Nick..the tristar is not staying...it departed this morning... Dave[Edited 2009-01-02 09:02:37]
29 NIKV69 : I heard. N388LS Owner: (unknown) Current Route: FAI..GAL.J512.ENM.G583.MARCC.R338.NATES.R220.NIKLL.R220.NUBDA.R220.GOC.W18.TENRU.W18.NAKTU.V58.XMC.V5
30 LASOctoberB6 : She has the final say.. But I'll push and see. Still... Have you been out spotting lately? I haven't because of the very obvious reason of 25L/7R bei
31 SK973 : Hong Kong - Chek Lap Kok Intl.
32 NIKV69 : Between the weather and things down here haven't shot there. Actually the closing makes it better since the chance of 1R departures is better. May be
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