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One-o-nine Rolling: First Irish Thread Of '09  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12518 posts, RR: 35
Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 12505 times:

Good morning folks and a very happy, safe and successful year to you all on this bitterly cold 1st January 2009. Hope it brings peace and joy to you all.

Since it's only a week, if that, since I started the last thread of '08, I don't want to go into a big spiel ... the fact that it's barely 6am and my brain is still asleep has something to do with it.

Anyway, all the predictions for 2009, I hope it's not as bad as we all fear. Some highlights to expect:

- New EI base at LGW
- Completion of T2 at DUB (although opening will be next year, 2010).
- Two new 330s
- Hopefully closer co-operation between EI and RE.
- How the EI/FR saga will unfold; what will MO'L do next? (The deadline for acceptance is next Monday).
- Being able to say, this time next year, "phew, got through that one!"

So, once again, Happy New Year and here's to a fun new year of Irish aviation threads.

317 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1481 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12480 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Being able to say, this time next year, "phew, got through that one!"

Yes, that could be the real test all right, with fewer carriers in Irish skies. Goodbye CSA, sorry you are leaving us at DUB in just a few days.

I guess that the continuing weakening of sterling is not good news for the EI services at BFS either as they seem fairly dependant on home demand.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 12435 times:

Happy New Year to all those in the Aer Lingus Fan Club. And Happy New Year to all those with more sense. I do, of course, joke.

I shall next be in Dublin in early March, and I am looking forward to it.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17079 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12405 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 2):
Happy New Year to all those in the Aer Lingus Fan Club.

Hehe, and a Happy New Year to our only member in the Ryanair Fan Club. Wouldnt be the same without you  Wink



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1563 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12253 times:

Good load on the EI304 to NCL this afternoon....31 in total.  boggled 

User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4192 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12239 times:



Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 4):
Good load on the EI304 to NCL this afternoon....31 in total.

New Year's day.. nothing out of the ordinary!

Certain routes are always quiet on Jan 1st, I suspect many DUB-UK routes would be among those. That said, you find that some routes are as busy as ever, particularly long haul services, or routes that connect to long haul hubs.



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User currently offlineYXXMIKE From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12140 times:



Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 5):
New Year's day.. nothing out of the ordinary!

Certain routes are always quiet on Jan 1st, I suspect many DUB-UK routes would be among those. That said, you find that some routes are as busy as ever, particularly long haul services, or routes that connect to long haul hubs.

Both countries are a bit too hungover to be flying on the 1st!!  Wink

I'm booking my trip back to Dublin & Donegal this week for a June departure, can't wait to get back and see those nice green machines at LHR!

Good luck and have a happy and prosperous 2009!


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12020 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Hopefully closer co-operation between EI and RE

I wonder how well the current agreement is doing, Dermot Mannion seemed very edgy when talking about it recently, when questioned about how far any co-operation will go he just repeated that Aer Lingus and Aer Arann had an agreement in place and that out of the two major Irish airlines only one was working with Aer Arann while the other was trying to destroy Aer Arann.

It was mentioned recently that Aer Lingus were looking further afield for airline partners or potential take over targets. It's likely that they're looking at a UK airline that would provide them with ready made bases, Jet2 could be a possibility.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12011 times:



Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 7):
when questioned about how far any co-operation will go he just repeated that Aer Lingus and Aer Arann had an agreement in place and that out of the two major Irish airlines only one was working with Aer Arann while the other was trying to destroy Aer Arann.

Repeated it - Mannion should be a politician the way he avoids things. Why can't he just give a straight answer?! I spose alot of CEOs are like that though...



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11978 times:



Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 8):
Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 7):
when questioned about how far any co-operation will go he just repeated that Aer Lingus and Aer Arann had an agreement in place and that out of the two major Irish airlines only one was working with Aer Arann while the other was trying to destroy Aer Arann.

Repeated it - Mannion should be a politician the way he avoids things. Why can't he just give a straight answer?! I spose alot of CEOs are like that though...

I don't think people would be happy if he gave an honest answer, EI are not making much money out of RE and they are not getting a real return on investment for the agreement thats in place. I believe RE's reservations system also isn't the easiest to work with.... I think DM is worried that RE won't be around soon and dosen't want to invest money in a turkey after christmas if that makes sense, plus EI already pretty much have the catchment of the rest of the republic outside of ORK SNN and DUB already.



John Hancock
User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11950 times:



Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 9):
I think DM is worried that RE won't be around soon and dosen't want to invest money in a turkey after christmas if that makes sense,

It's a pity we don't know more about the financial state of RE. It's hard to see what direction their going to take in the next few years. Their move into LCY will be interesting to watch. They've withdrawn all services from KIR. Their flights to Europe proved unsuccessful and have been cut. They've had to back down against FR on one of their main routes, ORK-DUB, and ORK-PIK is also cut. The question is, where to next for RE? The future isn't very bright for them IMO.

Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
New EI base at LGW

I wonder where EI will source the aircraft for LGW? It wouldn't surprise me to see a BFS based A320 moved to LGW this year. The weak sterling will weaken demand for flights to Europe even further putting even more pressure on the BFS base. This applies of course to LGW as well, but there's far more potential for expansion in the London area than Belfast.

Overall though, EI seem well positioned for 2009, with large cash reserves, the recent cost cuts which will save them €50m and the "campaign of growth" they've got planned, they should be well able to face 2009, and should rebound strongly when the economy recovers hopefully.


User currently offlineN272WA From Ireland, joined Jun 2007, 410 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11917 times:

From June, Estonian Air will be replacing the 735 with a 90 seater Bombardier CRJ900NG on the Tallinn-Dublin route.

OV have traditionally been operating in and out of DUB in the wee hours, since they started flying here. However, for Summer 2009, their Sunday flight will arrive in at about 6.30pm, which will afford spotters the opportunity to picture their gorgeous livery.

The early morning Friday departure from Dublin to Tallinn remains unchanged.

I flew with Estonian Air DUB-TLL-DUB back in July 2004 on their 735, ES-ABH. Fond, yet drunken memories of same, landing in Tallinn at 5.30am! That Saku beer is great stuff  Smile



Next: (EI)DUB-ORD-DUB, DUB-EWR-IAH-DFW-MSY-AUS-AMA-DEN-EWR-DUB
User currently offlineF1eddie From Ireland, joined May 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11917 times:

Cant believe no one here reported this... Apparently EI gave the whole of Ryan Tubirtys audience free flights to anywhere in europe on his last show. Good PR for them finally....

Oh by the way happy new year everyone.....

[Edited 2009-01-02 11:00:16]


Flown on EI, FR, BMI, TG, PG, FD, JQ, DJ, LA, NZ, SQ, DL, LX, LH
User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11896 times:



Quoting EI320 (Reply 10):
Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 9):
I think DM is worried that RE won't be around soon and dosen't want to invest money in a turkey after christmas if that makes sense,

I wonder will they last long? They are withdrawing from their main route due to competition from FR, so the EI deal isnt as attractive for pax as they cant connect to SFO anymore and have longer time spent in DUB

Quoting EI320 (Reply 10):
The question is, where to next for RE? The future isn't very bright for them IMO.

They need a partner, or to be bought out. EI Express anybody! lol

Quoting EI320 (Reply 10):
Overall though, EI seem well positioned for 2009, with large cash reserves, the recent cost cuts which will save them €50m and the "campaign of growth" they've got planned, they should be well able to face 2009, and should rebound strongly when the economy recovers hopefully.

Campaign of growth will hopefully be helped ex DUB due to the new incentives launched by the DAA! I know the economy wont be in the best of health by next winter, but its the time for EI to launch new routes, especially long-haul as they get such a good deal on fees etc!


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11891 times:

Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 9):
I don't think people would be happy if he gave an honest answer, EI are not making much money out of RE and they are not getting a real return on investment for the agreement thats in place.

Yeah, makes sense I suppose...

Quoting EI320 (Reply 10):
They've withdrawn all services from KIR.

Apart from the summer flights to LRT  

Can anyone help me out - I want to know the aircraft that operated the following routes and if my routings are right:
- Aer Lingus SNN-BOS-ORD December 1991, December 1992 [wouldn't have been the 747 would it?]
- Aeroflot SNN-ORD March/April 1994
- Aer Lingus SNN-ORD July/August 1994
- Aer Lingus SNN-ORD July/August 1995
- Aer Lingus SNN-ORD July/August 1997
- Aer Lingus SNN-ORD July/August 1998

Flight numbers will also be handy and it's probably a bit much to be asking for reg. numbers 

Thanks alot.

[Edited 2009-01-02 11:21:17]


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11868 times:

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 13):
I wonder will they last long? They are withdrawing from their main route due to competition from FR, so the EI deal isnt as attractive for pax as they cant connect to SFO anymore and have longer time spent in DUB



Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 13):
hey need a partner, or to be bought out. EI Express anybody! lol

Quoting EI320 (Reply 10):

They'll need a partner to survive I'd say, but which airline would RE be attractive to? An obvious partner would be EI, but any deal there would be done on EI's terms and they seem very reluctant to get too cosy with RE. On saying that though, RE could act as a very good feeder airline for EI at DUB . A take-over by BE could be a possibility. Other than those, I can't see any other airline wanting to be associated with them!

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 13):
EI Express anybody! lol

That just reminded me, EI had planned in the early 90's to launch Aer Lingus Express, a LCC to compete with FR coincidentally. It was never launched, but was planned. I read it in some book a while back!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 14):
Can anyone help me out - I want to know the aircraft that operated the following routes and if my routings are right:

Unfortunately I can't help, but you seem to have plenty of experience flying SNN-ORD over the years! It's likely that in 91,92,93 you were on the 747's. Never knew ORD was part of SU's operations at SNN! Very interesting!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 14):
it's probably a bit much to be asking for reg. numbers 

Just a bit  



[Edited 2009-01-02 11:43:11]

User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1601 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 11830 times:

Not sure if this has been on here before but I found this on Youtube, its not great but gives some old footage of DUB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bHgH6A2E2I

This one is a bit better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHoeXcRmqWs&NR=1

[Edited 2009-01-02 12:42:21]

User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 11816 times:



Quoting EI320 (Reply 15):
Unfortunately I can't help, but you seem to have plenty of experience flying SNN-ORD over the years! It's likely that in 91,92,93 you were on the 747's. Never knew ORD was part of SU's operations at SNN! Very interesting!

I know all my flights have kinda been centred on SNN-ORD Big grin
Yeah SU had scheduled ORD flights originating in Moscow I think. I don't remember flying them but my mother said never again!



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1563 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11708 times:



Quoting N272WA (Reply 11):
That Saku beer is great stuff

oh sweet jeebus.....couldn't get enough of the stuff


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3922 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11691 times:



Quoting EI320 (Reply 15):
That just reminded me, EI had planned in the early 90's to launch Aer Lingus Express, a LCC to compete with FR coincidentally. It was never launched, but was planned. I read it in some book a while back!

I think, at one stage, the plan to launch this LCC was to use FR as the vehicle. Even in those days when FR was not an LCC by its own standards it would have had a cost base many, many times cheaper than EI. I dread to think what the European landscape would be like today if FR had been taken over in the early 90s. I think its fair to say there is no way my mother would be coming to visit me for €55.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 17):
Yeah SU had scheduled ORD flights originating in Moscow I think. I don't remember flying them but my mother said never again!

I think Phil remembers quite a bit about these flights. I seem to remember him talking about SU services to Cuba too. Imagine 20 years ago SNN had flights to Cuba, today it hardly has flights to LHR. Those were the days!

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4192 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11672 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 19):
I think Phil remembers quite a bit about these flights. I seem to remember him talking about SU services to Cuba too. Imagine 20 years ago SNN had flights to Cuba, today it hardly has flights to LHR. Those were the days!

At one point, SU had up to 17 long haul fights a day through SNN, to destinations as diverse as SVO, LED, IAD, ORD, MIA, HAV, LIM, JFK and others. I can remember very clearly the sound of the IL86's and IL62's... the roar of the take off from one of them could be heard miles away during the night.

The savvy European Traveller "in the know" sometimes used SNN in those days to reach the above destinations. I remember a worker in AMS duty free telling me all about flying to MIA with SU via SNN when she saw the "SNN" marked on my boarding card. (Trust the Dutch to find the bargains....!)  Wink

Despite all this activity, back in those days, SNN usually handled about 1.5 million pax per year, obviously now it is closer to 3.5 million. Of course back then, the only EU route was DUB and LHR. EI also had CDG off and on from SNN from a few years. That was it though: no UK regional and virtually no mainland europe!



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User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11664 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 19):
Imagine 20 years ago SNN had flights to Cuba,

And there is more people living in Ireland now then most people realise directly because of those flights...



John Hancock
User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11659 times:



Quoting Shamrock321 (Reply 16):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHoeXcRmqWs&NR=1

That video is amazing, thank you so much for sharing it... it's amazing that 15 years life was so amazingly different in DUB or more importantly in Ireland......



John Hancock
User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4192 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11649 times:



Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 21):
And there is more people living in Ireland now then most people realise directly because of those flights...

Indeed... although a fair few got turned back as well, and it wasnt done diplomatically at a passport control counter either....it was often a case of being (literally) thrown back onto the aircraft.

SNN was an interesting place in those days. Far too safe and sedate these days I find.  Wink



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12518 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11642 times:

Interesting thread running at the moment on the first A330s, which celebrate 15 yrs in airline service this year. Sabena's OO-SFN, which started life with Air Inter (as did two of the EI aircraft) was the first to enter airline service (although VR/B-HLI was the oldest A330 to enter airline service, now with CX).

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4266835/

EI's oldest aircraft is EI-DUB, which was delivered in April 1994, although EI-SHN was the first to be delivered, now with Air Asia Express as 9M-XAA. The third aircraft, EI-CRK was delivered in November, while the fourth, EI-JFK, joined the carrier in July 1995, in a non-standard livery and the original IT configuration (which, with 9 abreast in Economy, was pretty much an IT-configuration!!). I think the flights were marketed as Ireland Air Tours or something like that? It didn't actually carry EI c/s until it was repainted and reconfigured in proper EI layout.

http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Airbus/A330


25 Post contains links and images Shamrocka330 : Kaitak, the aircraft EI-JFK was called Vacation Ireland and was painted all white with a green tail. View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark Bess I re
26 Post contains links and images OA260 : HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL. !! What better way to start the New Year than a TR : http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/139919/
27 Pilot21 : EI SNN-BOS-ORD in 91 and 92 would have mostly been on B741's, but occasionally EI did send the B767 on that route from what I remember. (long way bac
28 EICVD : I was just looking through a budget travel brochure earlier, looks as if OK have stepped in in place of FH.
29 AmricanShamrok : You're right there. Remember when there used to be 767s operating the US carriers' transatlantic flights - these days they're all 757s and SNN is str
30 EICVD : Could be wrong but I think they might of had 2, almost certain EI-CAM was the reg of one of them.
31 Post contains links Sawtooth : It doesn't sound too good judging from all the continuing route and frequency cuts, the fall in demand seems to be hitting them hard, and the now low
32 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : The other was EI-CAL, a great looking aircraft! View Large View MediumPhoto © Wingnut Shamrock350
33 Kaitak : I flew DUB-SNN-BOS-ORD in Jun 1990 (ret in October 1990) and it was the 123 going out and the 122 coming back. EI had two 763s, EI-CAL and EI-CAM. Th
34 EISHN : I was on the ferry flight for this aircraft from TLS-DUB. It was in all white paint scheme at the time, with a green shamrock on the tail, but becaus
35 Post contains links COEI2007 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHoeXcRmqWs&feature=related Good views of Old DUB airport. Good shots of FR BAC-1-11, BD 737, EI 330's in old scheme, a
36 Kaitak : Ah, that was it; thanks for the reminder!
37 EI320 : Excellent video, a whole lot of history to be seen in that! Apart from Pier D, the terminal hasn't really changed much since then.. The Sabena and Al
38 BestWestern : Pier A is basically a new pier these days, its wider, and has a 50p piece at the bottom. Also notice the CityFlyer Express ATR42, and the European ai
39 AmricanShamrok : Thanks Kaitak. Have you any other info regarding flight times etc? Also around summer 1994 was the 763 operating SNN-JFK?
40 HUYfan : The airline was EuroDirect to Bournemouth. They also flew to Humberside with the ATP! Regards Mike
41 N272WA : Hi guys, That Vacations Ireland A330 operated a lot on JFK-SNN-BFS under flight EI3072 and EI3071 and BOS-SNN-BFS EI3141 and EI3142 in 1996. My Aunt f
42 BestWestern : That was them - didint they arise from the ashes of Birmingham European...
43 Richcandy : Hi I know that the Aer Lingus aircraft that they used at the start of the tran-atlantic services from Belfast was a Vacations Ireland A330, but does a
44 Pe@rson : What’s all this reminiscing about? It’s not as if EI has died. Yet.
45 BestWestern : Nope - A Dornier 328 - super aircraft, and a super airline. A real first for a European Flag carrier - a low cost carrier offshoot - planned to fly s
46 OA260 : Those were great when they came to Ireland. Haha your Santa Ponsa days .... Arr yes Shirley. Wheres the romantic in you ? lol...
47 Pe@rson : That was me being romantic.
48 CelticMech : I thought the different livery was due to the whole political correctness side of things? Yes..it was an EI a/c, but they didnt want to have the sham
49 Kaitak : That could certainly have been a factor (I had completely forgotten that it operated flights from BFS); however, I would have thought that the main i
50 OA260 : Seems a bit strange to worry about a livery and then make Irish announcements onboard. I remember being onboard a BFS-SNN part of the journey many a
51 BrianDromey : I don't know that the different product would have been that big of a deal. At that time they had lots of different aircraft, 747s 767s L10-11, MD-11
52 OA260 : The more I think about it the more it seems less likely . The aircraft had a Irish flag on it and that would have been more contentious than a Shamro
53 N272WA : LOL...... ah yes, the Carolina Apartments..... those were the day indeed!!!!
54 DavecFlyer : If I remember correctly some of those Bournemouth flights went onwards to Brussels or Paris and was sold as a one stop connection? This service was a
55 EICVD : What about Aviaco? Always remember seing their MD-80s back in the day.
56 OA260 : I rember that service. Always wanted to go on it but never got the chance. What was the story with them ? They only lasted a matter of weeks IIRC. It
57 BestWestern : DC'9s - Dont think Aviaco got as far as the MD's
58 EICVD : Did they not fly a few MD-88s that were flown by IB in recent years after they absorbed them? Anyone also remember the TAP A340s to FAO & not so long
59 OA260 : I miss TAP , I never got to go on them . My aim is to have been on all Star Carriers. But too many keep joining LOL..... Shame the Lisbon route went,
60 Shamrock604 : Yes, I think EI have LIS well and truly cornered now. But at least they have built it up a daily service, which I doubt that TAP would have mananged.
61 Kaitak : Yes, they did; IB now operates them. Indeed, I remember when Aviaco was flying DC8s to DUB (and Spantax was flying CV-990s); two aircraft types I nev
62 Post contains links BestWestern : "AER Lingus chief executive Dermot Mannion has landed a lucrative new contract giving him a massive compensation payment in the event of him quitting
63 BrianDromey : I hope that this is the result of a new years resolution and not something more serious. Brian.
64 Post contains links EI320 : Pre-clearance to boost Shannon business The Shannon Airport Authority hopes to attract up to 70 business jets a day to the airport when a new US custo
65 BestWestern : He doesnt look well at the moment. I'd say he is under considerable stress at the moment, this industry is going to be tough over the next six months
66 EICVD : He was asked in an interview at Leopardstown last week "Would he be adding the Shamrock to his stable anytime soon?" All O'Leary said was "Stop, toda
67 Shamrock321 : TP havnt operated the A340 into DUB in the last 2-3 years its more like 10 years ago at this stage, a coincidence to say the leaset but there is a TP
68 BestWestern : Could easily be O'learys biggest problem - as a media junkie he can no longer get away from them.
69 OA260 : Hmm very true. He has used the media for years but he wont be able to decide when to stop being in the media. The media will hunt him . Good use of r
70 DavecFlyer : Also due this evening at some stage is the next LAN A340 CC-CQE. It gets into Frankfurt at 17.55 and is then due to position to Dublin. The last one
71 Kaitak : Why is it coming to DUB; is it because the lessor is based here?
72 BestWestern : Why?
73 Post contains links Irish251 : According to this thread the LAN changeover at DUB is delayed by a couple of days: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/42
74 DavecFlyer : Am sure you have read the thread posted by Irish251 but they are being cycled through Dublin to have new interiors fitted. Missed this as well but I
75 AmricanShamrok : No sign yet of a SNN-LHR codeshare with British Airways; DUB-LGW is loaded on the website [ba.com] alright...
76 BestWestern : Why do muppets shine lasers at aircraft on approach to Dublin?
77 EI320 : Nothing better to be doing I suppose. These people obviously know exactly what they're doing and the danger it can cause. They should be locked up! N
78 Pe@rson : What else is there to do if you're a member of the Aer Lingus Fan Club?
79 BestWestern : EI are getting more laser shining lights in comparison to FR, so perhaps those doing the shining dont want to hurt their buddies flying ryanair.
80 B747forever : Dose QR have a maintenance base at DUB?
81 BrianDromey : I think LA are having new interiors put in, true Lie Flat in J, new seats and AVOD in Y. Nice. Not as far as I know, but they probably do have a cont
82 OA260 : I know whose to blame !! The flights go right over his houes
83 B747forever : Okay, I see. If QR has a base at DUB it seems a bit weird then.
84 EICVD : Because they think its fun the scumbags! Only RWY 28 departures go over my house, been along time since RWY 10 arrivals have come in that low Wouldnt
85 OA260 : You did promise to leave the LX ones alone though LOL....
86 Tonymctigue : That is a pity. A codeshare on that route would do it the world of good and would be a great benefit to those living in NOC's catchment. I'm sure a S
87 Bramble : This was a plan at the start of 2008. However I think the August results and credit crunch put paid to that idea. I think that perhaps the LGW base i
88 Aer Lingus : i have a feeling the leases on all that block have all been allowed to expire for several years without renewal in preparation for the long awaited r
89 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : I'm pretty sure it is , most that block is going to be completely demolished, my father will be in the Royal Dublin Hotel next week as it is now clos
90 BrianDromey : In reality it is less capacity. AF/WX are still using 50 seats ERJs on the route. AFAIK the planned AVRO's were never used on the route. Brian.
91 Post contains links Sawtooth : They mustn't have told NOC, they are advertising it as an interlining service on their website "Ireland West Airport Knock today, Friday 19th Decembe
92 OA260 : What is that place? WOW didnt see that , shame , was a nice hotel. My choice of hotels are now The Westin which was the old bank. Amazing ballroom ,
93 Smokeyrosco : Well hotels are screaming at the moment they can't fill the rooms, my father is scratching his head with this as his hotel is still doing as well as
94 OA260 : Fingers crossed it will continue. I think if you have a repeat client base then you are one step ahead. I wonder what advanced bookings are like for
95 Shamrock321 : BD are operating BD125/126 again this time only on Saturdays but are using ERJ's on the rotation! Yesterdays EI DUB-SOF route ended up in OTP alot of
96 Post contains links OA260 : Monday, January 05, 2009 Aer Lingus €3m ‘failure bonus’ quizzed By Conor Keane, Business Editor THE “secret” €3 million golden parachute j
97 EI320 : It can still be an interlining service without being codeshared with BA though. EI have interline agreements with airlines such as SQ, AA, B6, EK etc
98 Post contains links Aer Lingus : a games arcade... a magnet for this lot http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Homicidal_Monkey/chav.jpg O'Connell St. looks well enough from the spire
99 EI320 : Starting today, EI111 SNN-JFK goes from daily to 4xw. EI125 to ORD will only call down to SNN 3xw instead of daily. EI133 SNN-BOS remains daily. I've
100 OA260 : The same lot that take the Luas in from the Red line
101 EISHN : I've seen AVRO's plenty of times down at SNN. They're not based there, but they do frequent the airport. I'll be flying with FR to LGW on Saturday, a
102 AmricanShamrok : Oh yeah I'd forgotten about that. The last daily flights from SNN to ORD and JFK for the forseeable future. For next November EI has JFK 5Xweekly and
103 Aer Lingus : the what line? oh you mean the bREaD line....
104 EI320 : FR still only allow one bag on board. Strictly speaking, the suit isn't allowed either, but you should get away with it. If you don't want to be stuf
105 Bramble : Glad to see FR don't class infants as handbaggage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its an easy meaning to get from the phrase
106 EIEGAA : Belated happy new year to everyone! Does anyone know what loads on CO's BFS-EWR flights are like? I flew BFS-LGW last Tues and was able to catch the E
107 OA260 : All classes available for most of Jan. U class being cheapest EUR373.63 all in .
108 DavecFlyer : Appears to be some major disruption in Paris today. Take a look at the following from the Dublin Arrivals page: Paris-CDG Aer Lingus EI521 05-01-2009
109 OA260 : Is it snow? I know some EU airports are having major issues. Its freezing here brrr but no snow yet.
110 DavecFlyer : Just had a look on weather.yahoo.com and it says its -1 deg in light snow. The EI 693 also had a major delay and the Ryanair website is announcing ca
111 Rojam : Sure is.
112 Post contains links OA260 : Job losses threat at Derry Airport on Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:50:49 Jobs at the loss-making City of Derry Airport are under threat, it was revealed today.
113 Irish251 : I can remember a time around the early 1980s (and probably only during the winter) when there was no EI105 on Tuesdays, so as that operated DUB-SNN-J
114 BrianDromey : Did the a/c go tech or something? BD were also operatint ORK-TLS-ORK yesterday. They operated with the A320 in the 'washing line' STAR scheme. G-MIDX
115 AmricanShamrok : Interesting arrival into Dublin this morning: Puerto Plata via Halifax Jetx GX382 06-01-2009 09:15
116 JWMD123 : Hi guys Can I ask two quick questions to those in the know. My wife if heading of to NYC on Saturday (yes I am being left at home!!) and she is on the
117 DavecFlyer : This is every week. It is operated with the regular B738.
118 JWMD123 : Seems no one interest in FR bid Given that FR own over 29% of EI that means only 0.01% of other shareholders were willing to sell!!!!!!!! This is a bi
119 Bramble : Usually is one of these; -JFK, -ORD, -DUB, -CRK. Still upstairs at either area 4 or 5.
120 EI320 : It should be clear to him from this alone that the bid will never succeed. The only possible way of this succeeding is if the Government decide to se
121 JWMD123 : Thanks for the info guys. Kind of thought it would not by DUO or DUZ but a chance she might have got DAA (We had it once on our flight to JFK in 2005
122 Post contains links Sawtooth : Some more end of year passenger numbers: 3.25 MILLION PASSENGERS TRAVEL THROUGH CORK AIRPORT IN 2008 .. "Passenger numbers through Cork Airport grew b
123 CelticMech : The Aircraft that is operating the EI-105 on Saturday the 10th is EI-DUZ. For info DUZ will be mainly operating between the EI-105/104 and the EI123/
124 EISHN : Hey, Any word on fleet interior updates and repainting? EI-DAA should be due for a spot of re-painting round this time, considering that EWR was done
125 JWMD123 : Excellent CelticMech. Thanks for that. Big Surprise DUZ is doing the 105. No Doubt she will be happy.
126 Post contains links OA260 : Ryanair extends deadline for Aer Lingus takeover bid 06/01/2009 - 08:01:26 Ryanair has extended the deadline for acceptance of its recent takeover off
127 Post contains links OA260 : Meath travel company ceases trading Tuesday, 6 January 2009 14:56 A Co Meath travel company has ceased trading with immediate effect. Customers who ha
128 EI787 : OK I live in Dunboyne and I don't even know who that is!! There's only one travel agent in the village, called 'Let's Travel!' (http://www.letstravel
129 Bx737 : I was on the 526/7 yesterday. We landed back in Dublin at 2235, 5hours and 15 minutes late. We were initially given a slot out of Paris of 2359Z, but
130 JWMD123 : Just looking at flights to BHX in March around the horse racing at cheltenham time and noticed that the flights EI2278 and EI2264 on 13/03/09 states i
131 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Here's a new Aer Lingus advert, for the January sale: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3FHj1n9YzAs I haven't seen any advertising for the LGW base but ex
132 Irish251 : That's probably an error. Those sound like the normal EI numbers for extra sections to BHX. I expect these flights will be operated by Aer Lingus.
133 Post contains links Kaitak : Cityjet announces larger loss for year ended 3/08. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...nance/2009/0107/1230936732373.html Ryanair wants EGM over EI
134 Post contains links OA260 : Airport Pay deal rescues 150 jobs http://www.independent.ie/national-n...eal--rescues-150-jobs-1593822.html
135 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : There longhaul prices dropped a bit today, my dad is looking at joining me in march and the price of the return flight to ORD is gone from 380 almost
136 Eicvd : IIRC that "operated by BA cityflyer" comment also appeared when booking flights to Cardiff for the rugby.
137 EIDAA : Afternoon all! Firstly, a belated Happy New Year to everyone here... I hope you all had an enjoyable Christmas, etc. I have been out of the loop for a
138 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Temporary closure of Check-in Area 14 Check-in Area 14 will close on a temporary basis from Wednesday the 7th of January to Wednesday the 4th of Febru
139 EIRules : Ha I'm glad to hear you had a good experience, goes to show just how different people's experiences can be! I still stick with my signature though, U
140 Kaitak : What kind of new facilities are they introducing?
141 Shamrock350 : The new fast past kiosks and bag weighing scales would be my guess. I think they were meant to be added in the Autumn but was delayed for some reason
142 Aer Lingus : only in ireland would that take a month to do...
143 Tonymctigue : Well there is probably alot more work involved than would be immediately obvious such as installing data and power cable along with testing the new k
144 Post contains links Kaitak : A Cityjet RJ85 made a successful emergency landing at DUB last night after the crew reported "control problems": http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/35
145 JWMD123 : EI's December Traffic Stats: No pretty reading and hopefully they can at least hold these numbers in 2009. On a bright note EI carried 10.4million pas
146 Goldcrest : Regarding Area 14, I used the Fast Pass Check in , then the automated bag drop just before Christmas time, when flying EI to LGW. The Self Check In wa
147 Smokeyrosco : We have to remember that EI will be down a longhaul aircraft in 2009 and most likely some of it's shorthaul aircraft will be sent to gatwick, so next
148 Bramble : Nice one
149 Post contains images EICVD : Just saw a predominatly white 738 with winglets depart from DUB. Was looking at the DAA website earlier & didnt see anything unusual due in or out so
150 OA260 : LOL and as for the signs and people to redirect passengers !! Well I just came into DUB at 1030am this morning and all thats at the top of the escala
151 Pilot21 : Nothing too big - but for those who are interested, ADTB is reporting that EI-CRK has been placed on a 7yr lease by ILFC with Vladivostok Avia from Ap
152 CallBell : EI crew wont be sorry to see that aircraft go....
153 EIEGAA : Why, what's wrong with CRK?
154 CelticMech : As far as Airworthiness is concerned there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Its the same as all of the other EI 330's in that respect.
155 Bramble : Absolutely true...........................however my opinion of CRK is negative due to the coincidence that it has delayed me many times,the worst be
156 Post contains links Kaitak : Well, I hope it has many years of good flying ahead of it. At least when Putin is deporting political prisoners to Siberia they can ask, "can I fly on
157 Tango29 : It was TF-JXH with Primera titles it operates the Puerto Plata via Halifax rotation on tuesdays.
158 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus achieves record sales levels in the "January Seat Sale" promotion. Over 50,000 seats booked in just one day! www.aerlingus.com
159 Irish251 : That is a very regular sight, especially at that time of day. Most Dublin overfliers are bound for airports like AMS, FRA and LHR.
160 Post contains links and images Rojam : What you need is OpenATC in G-Earth which will usually show who's overflying Ireland (albeit using ~10min delayed data). Earlier today I noticed 2 cr
161 Post contains images OA260 : Some photos of T2 Progress.
162 Pilot21 : Nothing mentioned yet - but it is an ILFC bird as well - and I can't see it being left lying around for long. Great photos - seems the work airside i
163 Al2637 : It's very easy to give seats away for free!!!!
164 Shamrock350 : Like many other airlines, Aer Lingus seem to be doing everything they can to get people flying with them this year. Better than just sitting back and
165 Smokeyrosco : Heard tonight that Sky Handling is not doing too well on the finance front, people are being asked to take two months unpaid leave, there are no new u
166 Post contains links Kaitak : Minister apparently "furious" with EI over new contract for DM; apparently supports FR call for egm: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...tpage/2009
167 JWMD123 : Thanks guys. When I say I did not notice this is probably because I have been too busy trying to dodge the traffic in the mornings. It just so happen
168 Post contains images OA260 : Area 14 ::
169 Neutral : Hopefully a good sign for more flights in 2009 from irish Independent Meanwhile, GAA sponsor Etihad yesterday announced it had filled 81pc of is Dubli
170 BrianDromey : Do WX put quite a lot of crew on their a/c? IIRC the RJ 85 seats less than 100 PAX so 2 cabin and 2 flightdeck crew would be more than adequate from
171 Aer Lingus : they're prob doing first fix with the mechanical works inside: heating, plumbing etc. while the steel and concrete crews are probably busy on Pier E
172 Smokeyrosco : SRT has lost Gulf Air which was probably one of it's top 4 contracts.
173 Shamrock321 : Just grabbed a great deal for 2 night in Malta in Febuary flying with FR and staying in a 4* hotel for just €120 not bad!
174 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Mannion backs down in contract row http://www.rte.ie/business/2009/0109/aerlingus.html
175 Post contains links Bramble : My God....mannion found some moral fibre. All joking aside its a good move, however it does illustrate the Ivory Tower mentality of some senior manag
176 Neutral : What an insult to all Aer Lingus staff who were told accept change or lose your jobs maybe Mannion should go!!!! It emerged in recent days that Mr Man
177 Post contains links and images OA260 : Hi all this is the first part of my latest TR . http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/140456/
178 Neutral : Speaking of TK they appear to be going daily on their Dublin to Istanbul route from the end of March till October according to the schedule on their w
179 OA260 : Yes and you should have seen the mix of passengers on my IST-DUB flight. Operated by A320 which is what mostly does the route these days. We were del
180 Post contains links EI787 : Here's some background behind the recent delays at immigration in DUB: http://www.rte.ie/travel/2009/0109/travelbriefs_9january.html Waiting three hou
181 Neutral : The long walk from the end of pier D is bad enough without the delays been mentioned at the passport control area,there is no excuse for the delays of
182 Greenjet : WX flights usually have 3 cabin crew even though 2 is all that's legally required.
183 OA260 : Totally agree and they were lucky that people didn't just brake the barriers and walk out. After 3 hours Id be tempted and if there were a few thousa
184 EI320 : I noticed this over a week ago at the Pier D passport control, got asked a whole series of questions, where was I transferring to (and he wanted to s
185 OA260 : Are you Irish and was LHR your final destination??
186 Shamrocka330 : Had a couple of good flights with EI over the last couple of days - went to Heathrow on Wed afternoon at 4:30. Aircraft was an A320 registration EI-CV
187 Post contains images OA260 : Do you mean this ? Also a pic from my DUB-LGW flight that I thought was nice. EI-DEM
188 EI320 : Yes to both of those. He asked me where I had come from, which was SNN, and despite seeing that the flight to LHR was just 1 hour later, asked me was
189 OA260 : Seems un warranted with Domestic/CTA travel. I would have asked why suddenly all these questions and that it was not the norm. Next time just take a
190 EI320 : Yeah, it's just I'd probably have more than Pot Noodle in it for him lol....It's none of his business who I'm seeing in London or whether I'd be leav
191 Aer Lingus : Its every much their business, that's their job and their perrogative, EU passport or not. The days of waving the harp in their face and moving throu
192 EI320 : Fair enough, but it all seemed a bit over the top for a flight to London.
193 Sausageandmash : Don't know if it's been mentioned on here or not, but Thomson Airways have changed their plans for Dublin next summer as a result of Futura collapsin
194 OA260 : You should just come out with something smart. I got quizzed once coming from LHR-DUB and this up start of a woman at Police control was actually ask
195 Aer Lingus : hope everyone is provided with a parachute on board and a quick fix mid air maintenance manual in the seat back pocket.
196 OA260 : LOL... I think I will stick to TK / LX
197 DavecFlyer : I was passing Dublin airport a few minutes ago and witnessed an incident in progress. My scanner is broken unfortunately so I couldn't listen in. An E
198 LIFFY1A : There's very high winds at Dublin at the moment, from the ATIS - 200/23G35KTS, I suspect there will be a few go-arounds in winds like that.
199 EICVD : Funny how Budget Travel describe all the airlines they use in their brochure as "Quality airlines" & yes that includes Onur Air
200 Shamrocka330 : I'm at the airport now (iphone comes in handy sometimes) and there is high winds but it's not effecting operations although there are some shaky landi
201 OA260 : Some delays and a few cancellations :: London-LGW Aer Lingus EI243 10-01-2009 10:05 Arrived 1244 Berlin Ryanair FR8559 10-01-2009 11:00 Arrived 1201 L
202 Kaitak : PPRUNE reports a rumour that the DAA is in advanced negotiations for two new long haul routes, one of which will be announced shortly.
203 Post contains links Kaitak : EI-CSN has been ferried from PIK-Southend for painting into Garuda c/s; this article from Flight suggests that GA is looking for many more 738s to lea
204 OA260 : China??
205 EICVD : What are the chances of it being PK?
206 OA260 : Well that also , fingers crossed. DUB-BCN-ISB will do nicely lol...
207 B747forever : The best would be if DUB could get a route to Asia. Then maybe EI will wake up and be aware that Asia is a place where you can make money, when the c
208 Shamrock350 : The same source on PPRUNE says that both routes are to the east and one of them is to the Gulf region.
209 EICVD : Will that be the end of your flights to BCN in economy with EI? lol If this is all true my guess is EK & PK. IMHO we still wont be seeing any DUB-Far
210 B747forever : But EK hasnt announced anything about DUB. Not even as a intended destination. Can it really be EK?
211 EICVD : In the recent EK expansion thread one member posted that EK where looking @ DUB. Could also be GF, didnt they say they would return if they could?
212 Bramble : Spotted the fire service leaving the airport at approx 2PM. Also saw the 2 A330s and remarked on it. Many delays due to weather in UK. Curretnly -2 i
213 Toulouse : Firstly, a belated very Happy 2009 to all of you. Have been reading, but 2009 has started a bit chaotically for me. quote=Aer Lingus,reply=191]The day
214 Post contains links Irish251 : Irish airline Ryanair eyes Niagara Falls airport deal: http://www.buffalonews.com/businesst...ay/localbusiness/story/545212.html
215 Kaitak : Rumour says both eastbound, one to the Gulf region I don't want to predict EK, but I do suspect it may be - but I also suspect it might be QR. At the
216 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : EI121 DUB-MCO had to divert back to DUB today due to technical problems [that was probably the A330 spotted landing and stopping on the taxiway]: http
217 Post contains links and images Toulouse : Ok went out to TLS for you, but the EI 330 has been moved and I culdn't see it. As it was getting dark, i didn't bother drivinga round the perimiter r
218 Post contains links BestWestern : SR technics loses Gulf air contract: THE 1,200 workers at SR Technics were last night fearful for their jobs after the aircraft maintenance company ad
219 EIRules : I somehow cant see it being EK, they have ignored DUB for so long. I think QR or even a return to GF would be more likely. As for the other, I'd love
220 OA260 : Anyone mentioned Oman Air !! Haha well if it was a chance to fly PIA and have some good Pakistani food and make the other half mega jealous then YES
221 B747forever : Well that may indicate something. Very interesting to see what carriers may show up at DUB in the near future!
222 Shamrock350 : Apparently Ryanair is to make a "significant announcement for Frankfurt-Hahn" on January 13th. It's believed a number of routes will be cut and aircra
223 CallBell : What are the chances it is one airline from the Far East stopping inthe Gulf region along the way? That way it could be marketed as 2 new routes but n
224 OA260 : True as hinted before maybe CA ? They have some weird and wonderful routes. DUB-DXB-PEK might work. They used to do ATH-DXB-PEK and ditched that for
225 CallBell : Absolutely, and a 2 sector flight would also overcome any runway length issues at DUB.
226 B747forever : Well it would be nice, but is it that convenient for PAX? I mean it is a bit of re routing if the route is PEK-DXB-DUB. They can just go with BA then
227 OA260 : Not too sure. They might not fill a plane with PEK pax alone. It might need a stop in DXB to attract two markets. The economy here is dying and peopl
228 EIRules : Whether this is actually 2 different carriers or just one with 2 stops, does DUB really need another flight to the middle east? I know competition is
229 Shamrock321 : I believe DUB could just about support another route the the middle east, and I would love to see QR in Dublin. EY loads are still great tonights inbo
230 Shamrock321 : On a side note AF have promised to use a ''larger'' aircraft on a once off CDG-DUB flight on Tuesday, this is due to a chronic amount of luggage that
231 OA260 : Yep but alot of it is one way traffic !! Young people leaving Ireland because there are no jobs. Applications to visafirst.ie have quadrupled in the
232 DavecFlyer : I always think about things like that but when you look at the EK operation out of the UK you think some more... Daily from NCL, Double daily from GL
233 B747forever : Perhaps a A330 or even a 777!?
234 OA260 : Has been known. A B777 came in for the Rugby match before. Was a nice sight to see instead of the small Cityjet planes.
235 B747forever : Well that had to be really nice. Will see if it will be a 777 then on Tuesday.
236 Aer Lingus : I am not really sure about CA DUB-PEK route. Is there a high demand DUB-PEK? Will they deploy an A332 in this route if CA opens DUB-PEK route? CX DUB
237 Aer Lingus : Do you know what flight number will this flight be?
238 Aer Lingus : yeah but runway length issues are a whole other story...
239 Shamrocka330 : Anyone know which runway is in use today? Gonna head out there shortly and I'm hoping it's 16 because of the high winds.
240 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : I agree I think Hong Kong would be more suitable for the business travellers. Looks like Virgin Atlantic's LHR-ORD has been diverted to Shannon [What
241 DavecFlyer : This was reported on the Irish Spotters email list as declaring a Mayday with a possible cabin fire and diverting to Shannon. " target=_blank>http://
242 OA260 : A310 is used still on EU routes. AMS-IST and then onto Pakistan. Would be great to see a 777 but those are in high demand from other PK stations.
243 AmricanShamrok : The aircraft that made the emergency landing at SNN is an A340-313X G-VELD "African Queen", now expected at ORD at midnight local time [a delay of 10
244 Shamrock350 : Latest rumour on PPRUNE is that Gulf Air will be back on the DUB-BAH route in late March.
245 B747forever : Wow that is interesting. So you guys will now have 2 carriers to the middle east if this is a true rumor. I doubt there will be room for EK too. It i
246 EICVD : I saw a PK A310 @ LHR in November so I would say we will most definetly see the airbus here. Will be nice to see a GF aircraft back in DUB actually o
247 BrianDromey : To be fair, I dont think the blame can be pinned on a senior manager for someone elses actions, unless she was under his direct supervision and openl
248 OA260 : The flights would be mainly for Pakistanis going to and from Ireland and maybe pick up some small traffic for other markets depending if there was a
249 Post contains links EI320 : SNN-DUB-LHR-MAN-SNN : EI/BA/FR http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/140660/ If anyone has time to take a look, here's a T
250 OA260 : Was brilliant . Well done and its only your second !!
251 Kaitak : I agree; GF is supposed to be taking a few A330s on lease from Jet Airways of India, so they will be expanding; there were reports of expansion last
252 AmricanShamrok : From The Irish Mail on Sunday:
253 OA260 : Jeez . That was quick thinking of the Boy. Hope EI has acknowledged him for that. Anyone know how bad the crack was and if it would have caused a maj
254 Post contains links EI320 : Thanks Phil, much appreciated! Fair play to the student for saying something and being alert. Strange that this wasn't reported before now. I see Kno
255 B747forever : Wow, happy that everything went well. Anyone know which aircraft it was (reg)?
256 OA260 : Yeah but kind of funny they are using the same London pic/graphic for the Ad as the XL Airways one. When did EI last serve Knock and what route(s) ?
257 AmricanShamrok : Probably EI-DUZ [St. Aoife]. It was based at SNN for most of last year but now they've moved it back to DUB because of the refurbishments. I think it
258 EI320 : Don't worry, Knock have all that covered too..... Aer Lingus History at Ireland West Airport Knock 1985 October 25th: First flights from Ireland West
259 Shamrock350 : They were very quick to announce and advertise it on their homepage. The press release even has a short history of Aer Lingus operations at Knock. I'
260 Post contains links OA260 : lol... Where else. Scary photo I just came across http://news.uk.msn.com/in-pictures/g...-documentid=11790272&imageindex=11
261 B747forever : " target=_blank>http://news.uk.msn.com/in-pictures/g...ex=11 Wow, that looks really bad. I am sure the people in Knock are really happy for this then
262 EICVD : There is already a TR on GF which (disappointingly) for the poster of the report was on a Jet Airways a/c.
263 OA260 : Hmm I guess the poster was expecting a GF branded A/C? Jet Airways have very good A/C , I was impressed with all 3 classes. If GF are planning to ope
264 ThrottleHold : It was EI-CRK. While taxying, right winglet contacted the tail of a CRJ that was pushing back. Damage was cosmetic only. The winglet was removed and
265 EICVD : That was it exactly, the writer of the report had no problems with 9W, was just a fan of GF (well thats the impression you get when reading the first
266 CelticMech : As said above, i can confirm the a/c was EI-CRK. The winglet was basically a write off...beyond repair. The winglet is still at the hangar to see! I
267 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Some new photos of EI-EAV http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01506014 http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01506015
268 B747forever : " target=_blank>http://www.myaviation.net/search/pho...06015 Looks really good. When is EI supposed to get it?
269 Shamrock350 : Next month I believe, not sure of the exact date though. Maybe someone else does.
270 Post contains links OA260 : Cockpit fire forces emergency landing at Shannon By Pat Flynn Monday January 12 2009 A jet with 156 passengers on board was forced to divert and make
271 Bx737 : Some rumours, can't verify the authenticity or otherwise of them: EI-CRK does have a shamrockless winglet, I was on it this morning on the 104. Rumour
272 OA260 : Just on the new Gulf region flight issue. Interested parties had heard a rumour about a new service and approached DAA who outright quashed that rumou
273 B747forever : Wow, that sounds extremely interesting. If this rumour is true, wonder what routes EI will open up whit that A330!
274 JWMD123 : With current EI plans showing (I think from what was said before) the need for 8 L/H aircraft and if they keep CRK on such a basis this will mean the
275 Shamrock350 : Ryanair is apparently moving some of their HHN based aircraft to FCO and will announce a number of new routes from there including a 2 daily Dublin fl
276 OA260 : At the moment all USA flights with EI from LGW are still showing Via DUB for BOS/JFK/MCO. BOS in March is not a bad fare EUR350 plus taxes.
277 BrianDromey : Maybe just a sale and leaseback of one of the aircraft due to enter the fleet next year? Brian.
278 Pe@rson : FCO??????????? Don't you mean CIA? What happened to CIA and the restrictions placed upon it?
279 CallBell : Looks like FR have some slots at FCO.
280 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Apparently Ryanair has gained the slots from Alitalia and will announce the new routes tomorrow, possibly moving some flights from CIA to FCO. Not su
281 OA260 : And the FR king didnt know this ?? Your slipping lol... Good find Kev !! Keep us updated.
282 EIRules : Hi all I posted this a few days ago but it was deleted Whats the story with SK's DUB flights on Saturday's in Feb? There are no flights to CPH or ARN
283 OA260 : Certainly very weird !! Whats going on in Rome that weekend?
284 Shamrock321 : Saturday is the best day to drop if your going to fly 6 weekly, scheduled flight loads on Saturday are always lower. AF have axed their plas to send a
285 EIRules : I think its another 6 nations match isnt it? Either that or EI are expecting a lot of rosmantic people heading to the eternal city for some lurrrrve!
286 OA260 : I was going to ask that. I looked into the system today and all flight showed as AR8 so no A320 or 777 I was hoping for lol...
287 ABC9 : Italy vs. Ireland, 1530 local, Stadio Flaminio, Sunday 15th of February
288 Pe@rson : LOL. Will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow...
289 COEI2007 : Rumors of a gulf route ex DUB? Could it be a return to DXB for EI? A DUB-DXB route would do a lot better than GF's BAH route! EI had said they would
290 COEI2007 : EI105, EI137, EI125 do, EI133 clears in SNN. All CO and DL flights also pre-clear, US doesnt
291 F1eddie : Bit of that and the lighting conditions i would say. Look under the tail fin. You can see the blue there...
292 Shamrock350 : Aer Arann code share with Etihad? Apparently Aer Arann's DUB-IOM flight was listed with a Etihad flight number on the IOM arrivals board and that a co
293 CelticMech : Its just the way you are looking at it. Definately blue still in the color scheme. Your eyesight must be going!! Hmm they do say it makes you go blin
294 B747forever : That is really bad. Well maybe you will get some heavy AF metal another day!
295 Bramble : I did her their name pop up in a conversation recently.......however nowhere even approaching reliable info. In this particular case the EI manager a
296 COEI2007 : As long as it was until EI sourced a/c. I wonder what routes EI would operate ex LGW? BA already flies JFK and MCO, and there is a lot of competition
297 Post contains links OA260 : Afternoon all from Barcelona. EI-DEL operated this mornings 562. Congestion at D75 area so we had to wait til other A/C moved out of the ( cul-de-sac
298 Neutral : Quote Reply 297 OA260 Independent.ie "The world is a different place now and the DAA need to review their plans for the second terminal," said Geoff W
299 Gosimeon : Surely any talk of "reviewing" the seconnd terminal is a bit too late as the thing is well on the way to being fully built! I can see T2 being used by
300 EIDAA : Well said! To suggest downsizing because of the current downturn is pointless. The new facility will be spacious when it opens, sure, but picture it
301 EIEIO : Hey everyone, I've been a keen observer over the years but decided to join up for 2009! Anyways, I have to agree with EIDAA and Gosimeon about T2. Pas
302 OA260 : Hey glad you decided to join us
303 EICVD : A friend of mine flew with RE to MAN in November last year for a game, everything was organised by the Utd supporters group. Have no idea how long th
304 Post contains links and images Shamrock350 : VCCP have released their advertising for the Aer Lingus Gatwick base, TV work will follow the print campaign in the coming month. I'm not impressed, t
305 EIDAA : Welcome aboard... nice username! Now a question that EISHN raised a while back and maybe CelticMech can help us out... Any update on the cabin upgrad
306 Lasno : The take over panel has advised Ryanair and Aer Lingus that they may not participate in the Primetime special planned for tonight on RTE television. S
307 CallBell : Not sure I like the shamrocks in the EI advert being upside down... i know it looks like they have "flown" from LGW. But to my eye it looks odd.
308 Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus fares to the UK have been cut further, now at EUR9.99 including taxes or more accurately EUR14.99 once handling fee is added. Not bad for A
309 CelticMech : EI-ORD is currently on its C-Check in Bordeaux and will be the first retrofitted 330 for Aer Lingus. It is due back in Dublin on Feb 28th all going t
310 COEI2007 : Thats rediculous. The terminal will be too big when its opened, however, pax numbers will grow in time, and until then, it will be nice to have a ter
311 AC747 : Hi folks. I have a question regarding the EI advert for LGW flights. OK, first of all, even though I have been living on and off in Ireland for a long
312 EISHN : Has to be the best username on here. Flew FR on Saturday and Sunday to STN. Delayed on the outward by 45 mins due to fog at STN (and it was foggy whe
313 Shamrock350 : I think most people wouldn't see it as a Shamrock anyway, all of my friends thought it was a Lucky Clover and even Aer Lingus have used a four leaf C
314 Kaitak : I wonder who commissioned this report; it seems stupid to suggest that a terminal close to completion can somehow be too small; personally, I think t
315 Post contains links Kaitak : http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4280850/
316 COEI2007 : The Shamrock can be seen as a clover aswell, while a UK airline showing Union jacks in advertisements all over Ireland is different as it is an Engli
317 AC747 : Cheers - I can see the difference now. A symbol versus a flag. Thanks.
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