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User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13365 times:

Anyway, today I went spotting with my dad and found that SQ had a few cancelled flights so when I went on the Changi Airport site for SIN I found that these are the cancellations for

Wed 31/12
SQ 038 - EWR
SQ 022 - LAX - It could be the other way around
SQ 342 - ZRH

Thu 01/09
SQ 308 - LHR
SQ 178 - Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi
SQ 112 - KUL

Fri 02/09
SQ 500 - BLR
SQ 818 - I think Nanjing
SQ 526 - Can't remember but somewhere in South Asia
SQ 112 - KUL again

This is very interesting as the only common cancellation is SQ 112 to KUL but what is the reasoning. I discussed it with my father and he said it could be due to loads however if that is the case then SQ is really risking their reputation here. Suddenly I don't feel so comfortable traveling with SQ as my flight could be next

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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13737 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13268 times:



Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
Suddenly I don't feel so comfortable traveling with SQ as my flight could be next

Frankly, I'm surprised you were so taken in by their marketing that you actually booked a flight on them.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13197 times:



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 1):
Frankly, I'm surprised you were so taken in by their marketing that you actually booked a flight on them.

I was at one time a very frequent flyer on SQ (for a 12 year old), but that soon changed when I started to organize our trips overseas and my own trips to India rather then family trips due to the scheduling and other variables involved, whenever I travel alone I always try to avoid SQ unless of course my father wants me to travel on it, because of the customer service and their policies for 16 year olds can be especially helpful, and when traveling with my parents I try and push them to not go on SQ but they eventually do and I end up having to travel with them but with my brother he is the biggest fan of SQ and refuses to even try any other airline because their IFE system is so good

I am about to go to the US soon and however much I want to travel on UA (I have reasons) I know that my parents will be against me on traveling on UA because I will be traveling alone for one of the flights


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13737 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13154 times:



Quoting Ag92 (Reply 2):

Well count yourself lucky to have such wise parents. You should follow their lead in airline choice.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13052 times:

These ones in particular, like the LHR flight look like they are scheduled cancelations, ie cancelled a while back. Airlines often do that round holiday times as often the loads from some flights can be spilt across the other flights, so a month or two before they are cancelled. Or they may not have properly existed in the first place.

Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
This is very interesting as the only common cancellation is SQ 112 to KUL but what is the reasoning. I discussed it with my father and he said it could be due to loads however if that is the case then SQ is really risking their reputation here. Suddenly I don't feel so comfortable traveling with SQ as my flight could be next

If you take that line of thinking you won't be flying with anyone as all airlines have flight cancelations, whether they are last minute due to tech problems or planned cancelations, which is common practice.


User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12838 times:



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 3):
Well count yourself lucky to have such wise parents. You should follow their lead in airline choice.

Don't worry, I know I am lucky with my parents

Quoting Theginge (Reply 4):
Airlines often do that round holiday times as often the loads from some flights can be spilt across the other flights, so a month or two before they are cancelled. Or they may not have properly existed in the first place.

Right so in this circumstance if you look at a theoretical businessman, he wouldn't have been able to book the flight in the first place

Quoting Theginge (Reply 4):
If you take that line of thinking you won't be flying with anyone as all airlines have flight cancelations, whether they are last minute due to tech problems or planned cancelations, which is common practice.

They have flight cancellations I can understand that, but this is the first time I have seen something like this and the fact that it is Singapore Airlines which has a brand name to protect, for them having to cancel flights should only be a very rare instance as part of the brand name involves reliablility and as usual as most of the demand comes from J/F pax (right?) if they find themselves on a cancelled flight too often, then that could be a huge problem in the future.


User currently offlineHuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1113 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12714 times:

Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
This is very interesting as the only common cancellation is SQ 112 to KUL but what is the reasoning. I discussed it with my father and he said it could be due to loads however if that is the case then SQ is really risking their reputation here.

SQ112/113 has been replaced by MI336/335 since 26 October 2008 as part of SQ's plans to introduce MI on the Singapore - Kuala Lumpur sector. Their "cancellation" thus has nothing to do with loads or the airline's reliability or reputation.

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 2):
I was at one time a very frequent flyer on SQ (for a 12 year old), but that soon changed when I started to organize our trips overseas and my own trips to India



Quoting Ag92 (Reply 2):
whenever I travel alone I always try to avoid SQ



Quoting Ag92 (Reply 2):
when traveling with my parents I try and push them to not go on SQ

Out of curiousity, why would you not fly SQ? Because of the sole reason as stated in your opening post:

Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
Suddenly I don't feel so comfortable traveling with SQ as my flight could be next

?

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 5):
They have flight cancellations I can understand that, but this is the first time I have seen something like this and the fact that it is Singapore Airlines which has a brand name to protect, for them having to cancel flights should only be a very rare instance as part of the brand name involves reliablility and as usual as most of the demand comes from J/F pax (right?) if they find themselves on a cancelled flight too often, then that could be a huge problem in the future.

You are presenting a personal view that flight cancellations, regardless of the reasons behind them, has a direct impact on reliability and branding and will present huge problems to the airline. Whether this view will become mainstream in the aviation industry is another matter altogether. I am pretty certain the industry can tell the difference between an airline cancelling flights with ticketed passengers due to them being cash-strapped or even understaffed, and airlines cancelling pre-loaded schedules which were subsequently adjusted, and where seats were already sold, to make arrangements and offer alternative seatings for affected passengers.

[Edited 2009-01-01 09:41:52]


It's huaiwei...not huawei. I have nothing to do with the PRC! :)
User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12602 times:



Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
Suddenly I don't feel so comfortable traveling with SQ as my flight could be next

Would love to hear the explanation on that one????

Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
discussed it with my father and he said it could be due to loads however if that is the case then SQ is really risking their reputation here.

Between Christmas and New Year, SQ routinely cancels flights. They are scheduled cancellations. The customers that had bookings are either protected on other SQ flights or on other airlines. It's not a very big deal and it is a common occurrence in the airline industry and a common annual occurrence for SQ.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 10520 times:



Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
Wed 31/12
SQ 038 - EWR
SQ 022 - LAX - It could be the other way around
SQ 342 - ZRH

Thu 01/09
SQ 308 - LHR
SQ 178 - Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi
SQ 112 - KUL

Fri 02/09
SQ 500 - BLR
SQ 818 - I think Nanjing
SQ 526 - Can't remember but somewhere in South Asia
SQ 112 - KUL again

December 31st, September 1st and 2nd? What is with the gap in dates?

Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
I discussed it with my father and he said it could be due to loads however if that is the case then SQ is really risking their reputation here.

What of other reasons? Crew scheduling, maintenance, etc.? Kind of jumping to conclusions here. That and the two dates in September are a very long way off to speculate load factor.

Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):
Suddenly I don't feel so comfortable traveling with SQ as my flight could be next

Based on this logic, you should not feel so comfortable booking with any airline.

10 flights, on three days, out of SQs entire network? Is it really that much to get worked up about and start contemplating the end-of-days for your potential flights?

Just book the flights. If SQ cancels, they will rebook you. Done deal.



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 10285 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):
December 31st, September 1st and 2nd? What is with the gap in dates?

Lol. I might be giving him a hard time but even I can forgive that typo!


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