Jpintoa From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 131 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2363 times:
Aeromexico is starting daily direct flights to DEN, YYZ and SFO. Why there are no bookings to these cities in this season? What strategies are doing other airlines MX, CO, AA in Mexico to get new passenger?
Juventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2292 times:
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 1): If I am not mistaken, the flights to DEN and SFO launch in February and the flight to YYZ in March
I think Eddie is correct, still weeks away......The YYZ and SFO should do well, good luck on that DEN venture.
Quoting Jpintoa (Thread starter): What strategies are doing other airlines MX, CO, AA in Mexico to get new passenger?
A noteworthy strategy was Southwest hooking up with Volaris.... If you're talking about first class service and flat beds and all that stuff, most of the flights between the US and Mexico are short flights.
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EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7426 posts, RR: 43 Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2180 times:
Quoting Juventus (Reply 2): If you're talking about first class service and flat beds and all that stuff, most of the flights between the US and Mexico are short flights.
Yes, sadly we do not have widebody service to the U.S., except for a number of CUN flights, the random 767 from AM making its way to JFK from MEX... or CO sending maybe one or two widebodies to MEX from IAH one or two days before Christmas. It is a pity really, because I am sure that whoever served, say, MEX-JFK with widebodies, would see its popularity jump in the minds of many travelers... plus, JFK-MEX can be as long as 5:30 or even 6 hours when the headwinds are very strong.
On the other hand, I suppose that the using narrowbodies only between MEX and the U.S. ensures that the airlines can be more successful in managing the yields and also allow for increased frequency, which is good for business travelers.
The longest regularly scheduled flight between MEX (notice I am talking about MEX only, and I don't know what it is like for other cities in Mexico with service to the U.S.) and a U.S. city is MEX-SEA, and it is approximately 5 hours or even a bit longer. Many people psychologically relate narrowbody service in a 4 hour plus flight with discomfort, but sadly the route is so thin and unprofitable that a 73G is kind of too much plane for it
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 23461 posts, RR: 50 Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2159 times:
Keep in mind DEN, SFO and YYZ are solid Star hubs.
So AM is not only planning flights into the hearts of an opposition alliance, but locations where its US partner DL are rather weak also.
As I've said many times here on A.net, just because an airline adds a flight, does not mean people will come to it automatically.
AM needs to market itself hard in these cities, and also nurture relationships with the appropriate ethnic travel agents and consolidators which are an important link in getting passengers on these flights.
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NAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2041 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5): As I've said many times here on A.net, just because an airline adds a flight, does not mean people will come to it automatically.
I agree with LAX intl.
Just look at ORD as an example of Aeromexico commencement there. It is a weak market
for them as Mexicana has been there for over 50 years and has established itself with the
ethnic marked and in the past years with the business mans market. As an AA Hub this is
likely to grow more in the future.
LAX is another example where Mexicana is extemely strong and AM very weak comparing
passengers carried etc.
However I do wish them well and hope they stay in these markets for a while as competition
is good for us passengers.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7426 posts, RR: 43 Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1978 times:
I looked for flights to YYZ on AM's site on random dates (they have "introductory" special fares -booking code W-) and the cheapest was U.S.$800-plus including taxes. This is just ridiculous! I hope there is sufficient demand at those prices... otherwise, AM is not going to have a long history in YYZ!