TommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 445 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14226 times:
Hi Guys!
This video showed some very interesting features. The question is, which will become really reality in daily operation in the future. EK introducing a shower was already a step, which a lot a people in A.net believed to be a feature, which wont be financially reasonable.
Beside the fitness-studio I think all the other features could become more or less reality.
Those "New Revenue Opportunities" could really bring some more revenue for the airline, because there will be some people, who will pay an extra amount of money, in order to get such a sleeping suite.
I also found it interesting that there is also the possibility of Economy Suites. Is there a market for it?
The question is, how much will it cost, to reserve such a suite next to your Y seat. I think that a Y seat + a suite has to be less expensive than C seat.
The Internet access would be a very appreciated feature on long haul flights. It should be also time-limited similar to the EK showers.
Khobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14167 times:
This is a very old video - the Skyloft idea, while very nice, was basically scrapped (I believe this happened as a result of the weight issue and lack of customer enthusiasm).
Oroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 616 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14047 times:
All I seen was a lot of excess weight. I mean, you really think they are going to put a huge tank of bubbling water in a time of weight savings? I could see the galley going in the overhead space, that would open the lower deck for more cargo, and maybe even a few sleeper births, but the rest is just excess weight to be hauling around, cause unless the airlines charge low fees for the births, they will just be dead weight with a few business travelers in there.
What would be the best option IMO would be the lounge. $25 gains you access, there would be computers, booths with tables for people, maybe even an option for some better food. Maybe a nice big window in there somewhere. That would be a good selling point for a whole airline (Virgin comes to mind).
Pnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 1833 posts, RR: 9 Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 13871 times:
The Crew rests and Sleeper suites have remained an option I believe but are much simplified and weigh less. The upper galley is out due to weight issues. A gym won't generate enough revenue either to make a go of it.
Thebry From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 373 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 13370 times:
Yawn...
This video is like three years old.
If you look at Boeing's latest 748 videos (on the newairplane.com website) you'll see they've significantly re-thought the interior layout. For example, the staircase to the upper deck has been moved back to it's proper position.
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 8407 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 12767 times:
I´ve seen it 2 1/2 years ago on the Farnborough show. You dont have to go to youtube to find the newest stuff on aviation. The manufacturers webpages (or microsites in this case) are better in quality and of cause novelty. This video was online already in 2006.
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 4836 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 11689 times:
Quoting Francoflier (Reply 1): Cool video, but maybe not 'sphincter control loosing' good... Wink
What's really interesting about it is some of the innovative cabin designs presented.
I really didn't think it was that good. Ok, there might eventually be some very cool premium cabins, but the fact is the name of the game will always be cramming people in to make as much money as possible.
Flashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2740 posts, RR: 8 Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week ago) and read 9102 times:
Quoting Pnwtraveler (Reply 9): The Crew rests and Sleeper suites have remained an option I believe but are much simplified and weigh less.
Actually, according to this article from Flight International, Boeing has shelved plans for aft-upper-deck passenger amenities altogether. Crew rest, perhaps, but no premium suites.
Boeing is now looking at utilizing the space for additional galley stowage to free up main deck space.
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 10544 posts, RR: 71 Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8282 times:
Quoting BooDog (Reply 13): At the start, they show a workspace that extends out and blocks the exit door.
Would that even be legal? What if it broke in the extended position?
It's legal as long as you don't block the door on the ground. In flight, it's pretty much a moot point. I would suspect that rules on the use of the desk would be similar to seatbelts and such. If it broke in the extended position and you truly couldn't get it out of the way (bad design), you could always take a crash axe to it if you had to...aircraft interiors are remarkably flimsy.
Flybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1751 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4402 times:
Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 19): It's legal as long as you don't block the door on the ground. In flight, it's pretty much a moot point. I would suspect that rules on the use of the desk would be similar to seatbelts and such. If it broke in the extended position and you truly couldn't get it out of the way (bad design), you could always take a crash axe to it if you had to...aircraft interiors are remarkably flimsy.
Quite right... as long as it's stowable for taxi, take-off and landing and does not pose a hazard for fire and emergency egress I don't see a problem with such a thing being installed. The question comes as to whether customer airlines would pay for such things. I have a feeling that other than a cabin refresh (to 787 standards), the 747-8I will be just like any 747 flying, just a oversized bus with wings. Only airlines like Emirates that have excessive amounts of cash can afford showers, spas, luxury suites and excercise rooms will purchase those for install on their aircraft. Most other airlines will just pack the plane full of economy and business class seats.
"Are you a pretender... or a thoroughbred?!" - Professor Matt Miller
Baroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 60 Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4268 times:
Quoting 797 (Thread starter): To be honest, I just pissed my pants and lost permanent control over my sphincters. Please see for yourselves.
If you use the Yes Prime Minister criterion, the urgent sounding dissonant music tells you it is something old being made a bit more exiting. If there had been real improvements it would have been Albinoni of Vivaldi.
Quoting Q120 (Reply 11): I found this interesting piece
More convincing ambience, but if you are going to advertise a plane, best change your name if it really is Corky. Also that voice presumably is normally used to cut metal.
Note to those propelling the dictionary on a.net, "ambience" should at least be an option, so Merriam-Webster tells me.
PRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 896 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1792 times:
If only we would ever see a 747-8i passenger configuration...the way things are at Boeing, I highly doubt this is just more than a dream...I hope it does happen, the 747 is still my favorite jumbo at least it is nicer looking than the A380.